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Winter delight jujubes

Posted by bhawkins 7b/8a dallas (My Page) on
Thu, Aug 4, 11 at 19:35

I've just started harvesting my first crop of these. This has to be the worst jujube I've ever tasted. I'll give the tree another year to see what happens.

I'm also picking honey jar jujubes now, they're great, as always


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RE: Winter delight jujubes

Perhaps it is primarily a drying jujube. The name might imply that.


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I have had several varieties that were nearly inedible, probably drying ones. I noticed some places selling that one pulled it, maybe they came to a similar conclusion.

My jujubes this year again did not set very well. I'm not sure what the problem is but its proving to be the biggest problem with them.

Scott


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I'm hoping it's just an off year. We're having a record draught, only half the normal 32"/year. My Contorted So's, which are normally great, are only fair; & my Li's, which are normally good, are poor. Only my Honey Jars taste great, though its too early to tell about the Sugar Canes yet. I've tried to increase watering but I'm only able to do that once a week. The Winter Delights are the largest jujube's I've ever seen, & lots of flesh to them.

I had terrible fruit set in 08-09, but 2010-11 have been banner years.


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This year they're pretty good! Bigger than Li's. Maybe not quite as tasty as Sugar Canes, but still very good.

I hadn't expected jujube's to change flavor year to year. I know other fruits do, but I'd thought jujube's would be constant.


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Another great year for Winter Delight Jujubes. Li's and Honey Jars also very good. Tigertooths are kinda bland. My fruit set is better, I'm giving them more water.


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My Li's last year (1st crop) tasted like sweet cardboard. I'm sure hoping they improve.


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Hello BHawkins. Thanks for the year to year updates on your jujube varieties. Very helpful.


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So, the fruit quality was poor for young Winter Delight Jujube.


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Thanks Matt!

Yes Hillrock, 1st year winter delight was cardboard. Ever since it's been my favorite. It's the only jujube I've had like that, kinda like some figs which get better as the trees get older


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My Li jujube has two crops very year. The majority of the first crops were dry and tasteless. Now the second crops are ripen. They are very sweet and crispy. Maybe due to the low temperature during night?


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I think gonebananas has the right idea, a name like "Winter Delight" definitely suggests it is intended to be dried. I'm definitely in the camp that prefers jujubes dried, and I have yet to taste a fresh one that even came anywhere close to the flavor of a dried one.


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Interesting. My li's only produce 1 crop per year. Maybe we can swap wood


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Hi, bhawkins:
I have lots of Li jujube wood.
Lets do it during the winter time.


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I have a sherwood that I would like to graft another variety onto so that one plant can pollinate itself. I would be willing to trade scions if anyone is interested.


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My Li jujube is very productive. The tree was planted in 2011.
Here is the picture of July 2014


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Wow! Beautiful trees. Very productive. Your doing a much better job of pruning than I am. My Li's stopped producing 2-3 weeks ago.


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Your Li Jujube tree is beautiful indeed.
Can you kindly send me some seeds please.
There is no way I can get them in my part of the world.
Thanks.


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I still have fruit ripen to pick everyday until Nov. The quality is very good. I try to control the height of all fruit trees in my backyard, so I can pick fruit anytime without ladder.

To durai:
Jujube needs chill hour to pass its dormancy and maybe not suitable to plant in your country, as you cannot find it around your area.


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Hi HillRock,

Per your earlier post:

"My Li jujube has two crops very year. The majority of the first crops were dry and tasteless. Now the second crops are ripen. They are very sweet and crispy. Maybe due to the low temperature during night?"

I live in Dallas, TX Area, and I have a 5 yrs old LI jujube tree at my backyard. It appears like my tree is acting like yours where the fruits taste very good for 2nd crop (November time frame), and poorly for the 1st crop. Unfortunately there are not that many (2nd round crop) to enjoy. I have been searching for a solution to address this but so far unsuccessful. I am very interesting to hear your comments on how to go about fixing the 1st crop problem.

JIMMY


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Hi, JIMMY_SAYAVONG:
I read some suggestions to improve the jujube fruit quality:
Less or no Nitrogen fertilize (but more potassium) after fruit set and summer prune can also improve quality. It also needs regular watering during the hot summer.


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  • Posted by RedSun Z6 Central NJ (My Page) on
    Wed, Dec 10, 14 at 18:49

HillRock, your forest looks nice. Are they spaced about 5' apart?

I think jujube can grow to 15-20' easily. I've seen a large jujube in DFW area at about 40' large. It covers the entire backyard of a residence.

I spaced my jujube trees about 20'. I believe Scott Smith spaced his at about 5-6' apart and he regreted.

Anyhow, jujube can be fast grower if given the right condition. To get the best fruits, they need all the sun they can get, but not over-watered.


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  • Posted by bob_z6 6b/7a SW CT (My Page) on
    Wed, Dec 10, 14 at 20:02

I remember asking Scott about that in another thread. He originally spaced them 1-2' and had some problems. He said 3-4' could work with pruning and 8' would be pretty easy. I have a few at 8' (fine so far) and am planning some more next spring. Some may go into 5' spacing, what I've used for a lot of other trees (apples, peaches, etc).


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Hi HillRock,

Thanks for the information.
Could you please recommend the type of fertilizer (high potassium) you would use? As they are too many out there.

Thanks again.

Jimmy


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  • Posted by RedSun Z6 Central NJ (My Page) on
    Wed, Dec 10, 14 at 21:38

HillRock's trees are planted in 2011. They already form a hedge now. What happens in 5 years?

It looks like his trees are near the fence. So the trees do not receive full sun, but they receive regular irrigation (near the house). So the vegetative growth is very good. With the hot climate, the trees should have near optimal vegetative growth.

I posted a picture before about a jujube tree in Dallas area. It covers the entire backyard of a house. I used to pick jujube fruits in that yard. The owner said they planted, probably in 1970s.

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I believe there is a 40' large jujube tree in Fort Worth Botanic Garden. I've not seen it.

I think native jujube grows wild in China. With the root suckering and the spread of the seeds, they spread by themselves. They grow about 20' in the wild, mostly on hills.

Cultivated trees grow larger. If planted near residence, they grow even larger.

All my fruit trees are spaced at least 15' in row and 18 to 20' between rows. They are mostly semi-dwarf. I tried to space them 20x20, but it was just hard to do that way.

If the trees are truly dwarf (apple in particular), then of course they can be spaced very closely. I've seen my local U-Pick orchard does that with their apple trees. But the peach trees are all standalone, about 20-25' large.


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  • Posted by bob_z6 6b/7a SW CT (My Page) on
    Wed, Dec 10, 14 at 22:13

I'd love to have enough space to plant things at 15' or 20', but if I did that, I wouldn't have much variety. It is better to have a lot of little trees, than lots of production from any one. I suppose Jujube are one thing that it wouldn't be bad to get a lot of. My wife likes them dried, so I could probably make good use of a large tree's worth...

That sure is a big tree. As Scott stressed in the other thread, lots of pruning is needed to keep Jujube at 4' spacing. I haven't needed to do much jujube pruning at all in 4 years at 8' spacing. But that is because the oldest I have is a So, which is supposed to be naturally dwarfing. I had the others in pots until this past year, so they haven't grown much yet.


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  • Posted by RedSun Z6 Central NJ (My Page) on
    Wed, Dec 10, 14 at 22:50

As long as the spacing can accommodate the size of the tree, then everything is fine. Fruit trees need more sun and more air circulation to set fruits well than regular trees.

I think we are mostly "fruitnuts" and want to squeeze in as many fruit trees as we could. But I was still surprised to see that we space jujube like 5' apart. If three year trees already form a hedge, then they already outgrow the space. There won't be enough air circulation and the fruits won't dry properly on the trees.


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