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Parafilm grafting tape

Michael
14 years ago

Under the heading, if it's worth doing well it's worth screwing it up the 1st time - I decided to try the Parafilm grafting tape to t-bud onto 9 - G11 apple rootstocks last Sunday. By Monday evening, 3 of the 9 had the tape splitting directly over the flap.

Figuring I had stretched the tape too tight or not gone around enough times, I re-applied more tape than the first time and didn't stretch it as tight. This evening I checked them all again and all but one had split nearly wide open!!! So, I wrapped them with a vinyl grafting tape that is considerably stronger than the Parafilm and hope it works.

I take it the flaps were creating an outward pressure and splitting the weak tape. Should I have used rubber bands (for strength) in addition? If so, which goes first, the Parafilm or the rubber bands?

I expect to get a wide variety of comments on this.

And this is why I did 9, having not done any since 1985, in hopes of getting one to take.

Oh by the way, the grafting went pretty well except the last 2 were done with blood pouring out of my left index finger tip, whooops, the knife slipped! Thank god it stopped when it got to the finger nail. Sorry, forgot to take pics;)

Michael

Comments (11)

  • lucky_p
    14 years ago

    Parafilm is not sufficient to be the sole wrap for a graft or bud placement - its purpose is to seal in moisture until the bud or graft calluses. You also need to overwrap with a grafting/budding rubber, masking tape, or some other appropriate binding material - of course, leaving the bud itself exposed(except for a couple of layers of stretched Parafilm over it).

    I've not done any T-buds in years - I do mostly spring grafting with dormant scions - but I usually wrap with Parafilm first, then overwrap with whatever is appropriate for the species I'm grafting - if I'm doing apples/pears, I usually just use masking tape - but if I'm doing oaks/pecan/hickory/walnut/persimmon, I'll use rubber bands - and often, I'll overwrap the rubber with masking tape just to keep the UV rays from degrading the rubber so quickly.

  • applenut_gw
    14 years ago

    I feel your pain. I've been frustrated trying to find the right bud grafting tape, as the rubbers rot too quickly, the parafilm is too soft, and the vinyl tape chokes the tree if I don't come cut it.

    But I found my solution with Buddy Tape from amleo.com (A.M. Leonard Horticultural Tool & Supply). It's pre-perforated into 2-3/4" strips that are the right size for budding, and it stretches really long and you can get 10-12 wraps around the tree. It is strong enough to hold the bark down, but the bud will break right through it and I don't have to cut it afterwards. So far I've had 100% success with it.

    Applenut

  • Konrad___far_north
    14 years ago

    Michael, Parafilm is used to seal over the bud, [not to hold] im my case the whole scion when I barkgraft.
    I use electical tape to hold the graft, in your case you could use rubber band, I have also used electrical tape and it worked.
    Hope you have better luck next time.
    Konrad

    Here is a link that might be useful: Barkgrafting...

  • Scott F Smith
    14 years ago

    I guess I'm the contrarian.. I always use just parafilm. I use 2-3 times around on each graft and I use the 1" tape only. Stretch but not to breaking. No problems, ever.

    Scott

  • Beeone
    14 years ago

    I'm pretty much a novice at grafting, but have tried several different things, and have never tried budding in late summer. I started out wrapping the graft with electrical tape. That worked great, until a year or so later when I removed the tape and took a lot of bark with it. Then I got some parafilm and would wrap the graft with that, then a wrap of electrical tape at the grafting point on top. That works better to remove the electrical tape without stripping the bark, although I would still get a very thin layer of bark. I've also wrapped the graft with just the parafilm, several layers, and that has also worked fine. After about a year the parafilm starts looking brittle and cracking and starts coming loose.

  • marknmt
    14 years ago

    Well, everybody here already said everything that needs said, but FWIW I wrap all my grafts first with a rubber band for strength and then overwrap that with parafilm stretched almost to breaking.

    Because I didn't know what size rubbers to order and they were cheap I got three different sizes and now find myself using them all. I'm appending the link to the outfit for anybody that's interested, and I have to say that I liked doing business with them.

    You certainly can just use large rubber bands from Staples, as I think I learned from Lucky, but the "budding rubbers" are wide, thin, soft, and powdered, and it makes them nice to use.

    After grafting the sun takes care of the aftercare.

    I think a person can overdo the parafilm- it adheres to itself so well that you can encase the graft in a plastic blob if you keep wrapping too long!

    M

    Here is a link that might be useful: Grafting supply source

  • murkwell
    14 years ago

    Ditto almost exactly what marknmt said down to the vendor and ordering multiple lengths of rubbers. I prefer the longest ones. If I have extra after wrapping I stretch it and cut it with my grafting knife.

    I usually do 1-2 layers of parafilm stretched as tight as I can without breaking it. I think that makes the best seal and the tension probably helps it break down in the sun. It also uses the least parafilm. I tend to use more parafilm if I did a poor job of mating the graft because I reason that I need to keep the moisture in longer for the cambium to knit.

    Its best to use the rubber first so that the scion stays in position while tightly wrapping the parafilm.

  • marknmt
    14 years ago

    Hi Murky :-) I'm reassured to learn I'm doing these the way you do it.

    On a few of my grafts where I had a chip or bud backup I tried using the same rubber for both grafts ... just another example of me being an obsessive tightwad! Probably a false economy, too. But sometimes I've gotten away with covering two different buds with one rubber after cutting it.

    I'm still very much in the learning stages. And it seems like technique and tools keep improving. Pretty soon I'll no excuses.

    Best,

    Mark

  • lucky_p
    14 years ago

    Sorta depends on what procedure I'm using.
    If I'm doing a 3 or 4-flap 'banana' graft or modified bark graft on pecan or walnut(or persimmon) - I wrap first with Parafilm - it's easier for me to hold all the pieces together while wrapping Parafilm with less pressure/torque than you have to exert when stretching that rubber band - then the Parafilm holds things together nicely while you overwrap with the rubber. For slow-callusing grafts like nut trees, I'll overwrap the rubber with masking tape or aluminum foil to prevent UV from breaking it down so quickly - but you gotta come back and remove the foil - and sometimes the masking tape as well, but usually loosens up on its own and the rubber band degrades.

    If I'm doing a simple whip on apple or pear, I just wrap with parafilm, then overlay the graft union with a couple of layers of masking tape - I don't even use a rubber band on those any more - the pomefruits callus in so rapidly that the tape is usually adequate to hold 'em in place 'til they knit together.

    If I'm doing a whip & tongue on apple or pear, I'll usually do the rubber band first, 'cause even though I've been doing 'em for years, I still haven't got the hang of making my cuts just right so that all cambium layers match up perfectly without really putting some pressure on 'em with the rubber. Then overwrap the whole thing - union & scion in its entirety - with Parafilm.

  • marknmt
    14 years ago

    Hello Lucky.

    I was wrapping the entire scion with parafilm too, but too often I'd get clumsy and end up twisting the scion out of place. So I went to just being very sure that the graft itself was covered with good margins (especially where the rootstock was larger than the scion by much). Then I dab a bit of tar on the tip. This might leave two or so inches of scion exposed, and it mostly works. Maybe I should just learn to be more careful. Maybe a plastic baggie would help.

    I get a few of my W&T grafts pretty good, but mostly I end up with cuts that have a little curve or twist built into them- and so I really need that rubber band to pull the parts into line. (I probably need a coach to work on my follow through with me ... ;-)

    Best,

    Mark

  • ersharmapc_gmail_com
    13 years ago

    Dear Sir,
    I intend to purchase parafilm tape for grafting apple plants.Kindly letme know as to from where I can obtain these tapes .