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| Any edibles really perform well for you this year? How long have you had them? Concerns (diseases, insects, etc)?
Any edibles that were particularly poorly performing this year? How long have you had it and has it been better in previous years? Any ideas why? i'll start. I have a Sweet Sixteen apple that I've had for 3 years. This year it finally set some fruit, two of them to be exact. They were huge, 4+ inch diameter, and blemish free (until they fell). The kids (and wife and I) agree that it was the best tasting apple any of us have ever had. Pawpaws... produced way more than I and the kids could eat. Rainstorms knocked fruit from the branches and we didn't even bother checking them for condition. Best year ever! Blueberries were disappointing. two of my 4 bushes seemed to overbear and then never seem to ripen the fruit (which were tiny, dry and hard). The other 2 bushes had very few fruit between them. Illinios Everbearing Mulberry...didn't seem to fruit much or heavily. I can't recall getting a single berry and don't think the kids really did either. Gooseberries (3 diff varieties). My fruit just never seems to get much bigger than currant size and I've never had a good year for production except for on Pixwell (I think). I did get a new one this year, but I'm really thinking this particular fruit is one to give up on. Figs... best year ever for me. I got dozens (and am still picking) from Celeste, LSU Purple, Kadota, Florea, and many others (all in pots). My own in ground fig is covered with fruit, but hasn't started ripening yet. ~Chills |
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| 2012 winners in my greenhouse. Apricot: White flesh nectarine: Yellow Flesh nectarine: Pluot: Grapes: Figs: Strawberry Verte Blueberry: Sweetcrisp |
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- Posted by bamboo_rabbit 9A Inverness FL (My Page) on Fri, Sep 21, 12 at 12:52
| Well my losers out number my winners this year. Started out rough with a too warm January which made the blueberries start blooming then two very cold nights which ruined 60%+ of my blueberry crop. Still managed many dozens of pounds of fruit but was sad to see all those ruined berries. Added 25 more Sweetcrisp this year as well as another dozen or so Emeralds and a dozen Jewels. After a few years of growing blackberries I have given up on the Ouachita and Natchez.....they are just not good in my yard. They grow great and produce but the fruit is sour and tasteless. Not sure if it is my soil or lack of sun. They get quite a lot of sun but not all day. Either way they were ripped out this week and not an easy task as there were 4 30 foot rows. They will be replaced this winter with Kiowa which I already have 25 feet of growing. While thorny they produce big wonderful tasting berries here. Kiwi......gone......just does not do well in this humidity and too attractive to bugs. Tore it out. The kiwi occupied close to 100 feet and will become a new fig orchard I think. Lost a 4 year old, well had been here 4 years anyway 12 foot tall Murcott tangerine. The tree became ill suddenly and I was quite worried it was citrus greening. I grow a lot of citrus trees and did not want to wait and see so hooked on to it with the tractor and tore it out. To my relief it was not greening but some sort of a root rot. The tree was going to die so pulling it was not a waste. I will have to get a new Murcott this spring and find a new spot for it.. On the positive side of the citrus front I searched high and low trying to and finally did find a Dekopon citrus. Also added two Kishus and a gold nugget. Since tomatoes are technically a fruit will include them:) We harvested well over 400 pounds from our plants this year and processed them. My Celeste figs were awesome...still waiting on the Green Ischia to ripen. |
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| Not many winners this year: White Gold cherry - over 2 gallons of fruit Stella cherry - nothing Flavor Delight Aprium - 3 dozen fruits Harglow Apricot - nothing Gala apple - a couple bushels of smaller than usual fruits, many frost ringed Enterprise apple - less than 2 dozen fruits, good size and good condition Seckel pear - finally produces 7 fruits All plums - nothing Strawberries - about 1/2 normal crop after frost loss Blueberries - the usual few dozen berries Real winners were frost, curculio and squirrels |
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- Posted by franktank232 z5 WI (My Page) on Fri, Sep 21, 12 at 16:07
| Sweet cherries...all of them were excellent, some were huge and they were awesome tasting. The birds attacked them (even with netting), but i was still able to eat a lot...kids enjoyed them as much as i did. Apricots (the ones that didn't get hit by PC). They were very good, but the heat made them ripen very very quickly. They are a fruit that has way too short of a window in my opinion, and I can only eat so many before I get sick of them. Grapes...although with no rain this summer (so it would seem) they didn't seem to get that big. Seckel pears...never had a bad year for pears even with the squirrels getting many of them. now the bad: I would say the birds were a big problem this year. I gather it was the drought...Of course Japanese beetles were thicker then they ever have been around here. Luckily they seemed to stick to the sweet cherries. |
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- Posted by scottfsmith 6B-7A-MD (My Page) on Fri, Sep 21, 12 at 22:09
| Here are a few of the best and worst for me: White Gold - great cherry, no splits, birds didn't get too many Siskiyou - excellent tasting trailing blackberry, its part raspberry. Seems very vigorous and looks like it may be hardy enough for me. Tomcot - always a winner. I have been re-building the tree after it got too big so not many cots this year but they were excellent. Santa Rosa and Satsuma - another great year for these plums, my two favorites. Middleburg - reliable and tasty Euro plum, it had major attack from deer and aphids but still produced good fruit. All nectarines - splitting, rot and small size means they get the axe this winter -- I don't have the time for hard to grow things like this. I am going to keep a spindle of Mericrest since it is the most reliable and is very tasty. Cherryville Black - a promising summer apple with a decent picking window and good flavor. It is a bit small and dull and spotted but still a good looking apple. Josephine des Malines - a great pear as usual, super juicy aromatic and best of all, reliable! Figs - all were good but had splitting problems since harvest came early in rainy season. Scott |
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| Most Blueberries did well.Getting a Razz was an interesting plus.It was developed in the 1940's,but was too soft to be mechanically harvested and so was dropped commercially.I wasn't expecting much but was surprised with the Raspberry flavor.Some plants also died.Two Elizabeth Blueberries were in the same kind of container and mix,side by side.One is gone,sometimes growing is a mystery.That berry though is wonderful,I'm glad one survived.Had my first Pink Lemonade berries this year,pretty good,along with some other new varieties.Also,five young Sweetcrisps are spraying out canes like weeds. I left two fruits stay on a newly planted Fantasia Nectarine until they dropped and they were tasty. Also planted a 4-way Plum with an Apricot which grew well and should fruit next year. I had my first Mulberries from a Wellington and a dwarf Girardi.Great flavor,especially the Wellington.It looks likes there is no stopping them,except for me and some pruners. My Pawpaw seedlings are coming along. Brady |
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- Posted by harvestman 6 (My Page) on Sat, Sep 22, 12 at 8:06
| 0-12 winners- frost, stinkbugs, squirrels, birds, wasps. |
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| Pawpaws dropped their fruit because of the drought. Triple Crown was the best blackberry. Redhaven, Blazingstar and O'Henry were the best peaches. Once again Liberty apple was poor quality. I'll probably remove this tree, but the problem may be I don't like Mac type apples. I prefer very sweet apples like Fuji. Kirke's Blue plum ripened in the heat of the season (100 + temps) and the fruit had a lot of internal browning as a result. White County peach also had a lot of internal browning. The high temps literally cooked the inside of these peaches. Bavey's Green Gage was a very good plum. There were a couple of customers asking for more. Rosy Gage was severely attacked by PC, but the fruits I tasted were as good as Green Gage. |
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| Phoenix, Arizona Winners: Li Jujube Losers: Sherwood Jujube (3rd year in the ground, yet to bear) Anything on Citation Rootstock -- Too hot, induced early dormancy. Any plum on Guardian Rootstock -- Can't take the alkalinity of our water or the clay soils of Phoenix Pink Lady Apple on M111 -- Barely leafed out. Arkansas Black/King David Apple on M111 -- Barely leafed out. Longans, Lychees -- Why do I bother? |
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| AJBB...in your Arizona heat, do you have to protect the loquat tree from the sun. Same question for the Anna and Dorset Golden. I don't have quite the heat you do, but I have enough afternoon sun to kill young loquats and young apples trees. John |
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- Posted by theaceofspades 7 Long Island (My Page) on Mon, Sep 24, 12 at 19:20
| This year was an exceptionally mild winter. Early bloom was disaster for many areas in the US. But no blooms were froze out here on Long Island. The early start caused cherries and apricots to not get enough heat and most wasted away. Peaches plums did very well. Apples and pears did fair. Asian pears did excellent. Blueberries gooseberries did ok. Winners------------------------ Gala apple Chojuro asian Dapple Dandy pluot Flavor King (produced few but very high brix of 21) Redhaven peach Shiseiki asian pear Olympic asian pear Duarte plum Oullins plum Santa Rosa plum NY Muscat (good but should get better) Spring Satin plumcots without the PC Crisp & sweet pear Alden grape Ubileen pear reliable early pear but heat caused watercore in some Flat wonderful (most easy to grow peach) J H Hale peach Hamese asian pear (an early ripening and excellent eating) Carmine Jewel and Crimson Passion bush cherries more reliable here than the sweets Hale Haven peach (late peach eats and cans well) Losers----------------------- Emerald Beaut plum Johnathan apple (no set) Anna kiwi (tastes only fair) Italian plum Beauty plum (birds) Indian Free peach Lapins cherry Superior plum Methley plum just got chopped down Alderman plum just got chopped down Jonkheer van Tets currant died back and getting chopped Burbank plum overset Shiro plum overset The Apricots 20 varieties were poor some occasionally good. Muscat Hamburg grape (died back) rotting some w/good flavor
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| Jbclem, I shaded the loquat for the first two years, although it really took off once I built my shadehouse next to it. The Dorsett, as you can see, is sitting out in full sun (western exposure) with my oroblancos behind it. A lot of time it isn't the sun, but a pH issue or a salinity issue that's killing your trees. If you need more help, feel free to PM me. |
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| My huge loser was my Montmorency sour cherry. I've had the tree for four years. Year two the tree gave 88 cherries. Nothing to write about since then. Don't know what to do. MrsG |
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| My Montmorency cherry is my biggest loser of the past two years. Its first year here three years ago it had a fine crop so i could make a pie, I was surprised at the amount of cherries. This year and last nothing, I mean almost zero fruit that hangs on. Maybe it was the cold snap this past spring. The tree is well pruned, weed-free and has a large trunk. I'm at a loss to understand why it is not producing. Mrs. G |
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| Strangest year ever. Blues--Very poor fruitset out of 22 varieties. Very nondescript flavor on the couple gallons we picked. Lost 43 plants. Gooseberries--small crop of Poorman and Pixwell. Lost all the rest probably 30 in total. Currants--No harvest. Lost them all--at least 20 plants. Raspberries. Absolutely no difference in summer and everbearer this year. They started bearing in late May and are loaded with large, beautiful but tasteless fruit now. Caroline, Nova, Encore, and Preludes were the winners. Lauren and Polana weren't impressive, and Octavia and Himbo Top never made the show. Himbos were excellent 2 years ago, and I've been disappointed ever since. Black rasps. Plants suffered but produced a small crop--maybe a couple gallons. Had a lot of bird issues mid summer during the drought. Dewberries were decent but not enough orders to warrant picking many of them. Blackberries--amazing fruit set that burned up--maybe 25 gallons. TC great as usual. Natchez large but uninspiring. Chester good as usual. Black Satin bore a good crop of its usual tart berries. Prime Jim ok but Prime Jan was ripped out. Grapes--Concords were outstanding. Bird issues wouldn't allow them to ripen fully early on, but fruitset was amazing and quality was very good. Harvest was the longest I've ever known. Seedless are new and were hit w/a bad freeze and subsequent drought, but Reliance grew well as did Jupiter. Himrods died out, and so did a Niagara. Peaches--Redhaven good as usual. Elberta small but flavorful and good disease control. Belle of Ga lost fruit to freeze. Indian Blood decent. Trugold didn't set. Lots of new plantings after the nects were removed. All I can say is they survived. Plums--no fruitset. I'm losing patience w/these. They seldom produce. Apricots--same as plums. Cherries--no fruitset. A few Monties. None on Stella, Meteor, Balaton. Gave up on sweet cherries tho' there's a Black Tartarian still around. Pears were great this year. Small crop of Bosc, Ambrosia was the best this year. Moonglow was good. Seckels were terrible, Crisp N Sweet was good. Good assorted Asian pears. Paw paws had good fruitset but dropped. Wild persimmons are outstanding this year. Loaded, large, early, and sweet. Rhubarb was very good early, picked over 100 lbs but lost at least 80 newer plants to the drought. There will simply be a lot of replanting next year. |
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| WINNERS: Peaches-Reliance 10 lbs, Contender 80 lbs, PF Cold Hardy 4 lbs but big and excellent taste, Veteran 30 lbs. All were very good in an area where historically peaches are unheard of! Grapes- Swensons Red had a tough spring but produced some excellent table grapes, Kay Gray ripening a large crop now, King of North, Concord. Gooseberries- Black Velvet had a large crop of big sweet berries. Currents- Red and white produced well. Plums- Green Gage set huge crop of nice plums. Rhubarb- This seems to be the land of the rhubarb. Thick as your arm with leaves like elephant ears. Wild Blackberries- Huge crop. Wild Blueberries- Commercial fruit and good average crop of nice berries. Check your local supermarket frozen section. They will be there all winter. Pies to remember. Pears- Bartlets, Seckle, Chojura, and Olympic very nice. LOSERS: Apples- All apples were hit by late frost on blossoms and had small crop which apple maggot concentrated on. Worst ever.
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| AJBB: Not to hijack this thread, but I have been considering between oranges, and I see you have 3 on my list: Trovita Sweet Orange Can you describe the differences in flavor and harvest times? Is it worth having all 3? Carla in Sac |
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| Carla, Trovita tastes somewhat similiar to a Washington Navel, but it's smaller in sizer. I usually harvest it in January-February in Phoenix. Cara Cara is a red fleshed navel and is a little sweeter than a Washington Navel. I also harvest it in January - February. Midknight valencia is a valencia variety from South Africa that takes our temps a little better than the "standard" valencia and appears to be more resistant to sunburn. It's more of a juice orange. I usually harvest those later, generally in March-April. |
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| I hate to pull up this old post, but had a question for Ace of Spades. Ace, I noticed you listed Emerald Beauty plum as a loser. Can you elaborate? I've been considering adding this plum for several years now and am interested in why it's not working for you. Hope your trees didn't suffer too much from Sandy and that your house repairs are well underway. |
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| What a year! Winners: Elberta Peaches (fabulous!) Losers: Snapped at the graft union 'Harglo apricot' during hurricane Sandy. Better luck next year! Fighting peach leaf curl on peach and bacterial canker wasn't much fun either. However, this was my best fruit year in four years! Mrs. G |
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| winners Tomcot Apricot Giombo persimmon Chocolate persimmon Contorted So Jujube Shihong Jujube Losers: |
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| Winners: Holstein - First apples were nice and balanced with gentle flavor. happy Ashmead's Kernel - thrilled with this one. I'm tempted to graft another to have some annually Sweet 16 - reliable, annual cropper. nice and sweet Karmijn - except for the raccoons/squirrels taking all of the first decent crop leaving one but now I know it can crop. maybe graft another. my fav Honeycrisp -large reliable crop but worsening bitter pit Losers: Sosos: Hard to wait for this year's newbie grafts esp. the earlies and the keepers. I'm getting itchy grafting fingers for March. Where's that 12-step group for fruit fiends? |
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- Posted by queenbee_1 7 (My Page) on Tue, Nov 27, 12 at 0:45
| My winners: Muscadines-- All var. over produced, were sweet and very large. Apples: Black Horse, Gala and Ark. Black produced very well, little or no problems.. Asian persimmon: in the ground 2yrs and had 59 huge, delicious fruits. Losers: Blueberry (6var.), Blackberries, plum, pears(4 var.), and of course the cherries have never produced. The figs were good but small and had few fruit.. |
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| Winners: McIntosh, Akane, Belle de Boskoop, Dolgo, wickson, Karmijn, Winesap, Winter Banana apples, Black mulberries, Crimea quince, Royal Medlar,autumn olives,Unknown sweet cherries, Cornus mas dogwoods, Desert King figs, labrusca American grapes. Losers: Blueberries-no fruit set, pie cherries (too rainy in Spring?, Pineapple guava-still not recovered from transplant, Damson plum-same, Shipova and Korean cherries-disease? Fruit set?, |
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- Posted by CharlieBoring 7 (My Page) on Tue, Nov 27, 12 at 8:06
| In northern Virginia the winners were: Stella cherries - larger crop than usual, but the cardinals got many of them Fu Yu Persimmon - my best year yet (tree 5 years old), crows got a few Fruit Salad Tree - such a large crop that the branches broke. Tree is 3 years old. All of the fruit looks like nectarines or peaches. I should have sprayed for insects since many damaged the fruit. Loser - Artic hardy kiwi - no blooms, 7-9 years old. Just planted asian pears, jujube, apricot, peach, cherry and paw paw. |
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- Posted by theaceofspades 7 Long Island (My Page) on Tue, Nov 27, 12 at 18:42
| Olpea, I thought I would share what I wrote to you in private to fill any questions on this thread. "Mark, The EB tree branches similar to Santa Rosa but more even spaced Try Dapple Dandy it is not easy but open pruning and diligent sprays and |
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| Thanks Ace, I'm glad you posted publicly. I've only seen Emerald Beaut receive positive reviews on this forum. I think your the first to post experience with it in a humid climate. I'm still toying with trying to see if I can get any fruit out of it, but your experience definitely helps me go into it with my eyes open (should I try it) and keeps my expectations low regarding any success. |
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- Posted by scottfsmith 6B-7A-MD (My Page) on Wed, Nov 28, 12 at 8:37
| Yes thanks Ace. If you can't keep the rot off of it I doubt I will be able to. I got a few fruits on my graft last year but a critter got 'em before they were fully ripe. Most of the California plums are bust for me. I did get one bright light this last summer, Laroda did not rot at all. It tastes similar to Santa Rosa but is later. I have another half dozen CA plums left to fruit, hopefully a few more of those will work out. I will also have to try Dapple Dandy at some point. I had heard bad stories on that one so I never tried it myself. Scott |
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- Posted by scottfsmith 6B-7A-MD (My Page) on Wed, Nov 28, 12 at 8:45
| Oh Ace how did your Flavor Heart do this last summer? I recall you mentioning a few years ago that it was doing well for you. Scott |
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- Posted by ravenh2001 none (My Page) on Fri, Nov 30, 12 at 16:07
| Bberry where in Me are you? I am off 1a between bangor and Ellsworth in a 4/5 also. bberries good 5000 lbs, peaches good many branches broken from not enough thinning, mac, cortland, northern spy, and yellow transparent s ked. no plumbs or cots but cherries did ok. Garden was like a picture, carrots, spuds, parsnip, squash, ect great. like someone said if god gives you lemons make lemonade. |
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- Posted by theaceofspades 7 Long Island (My Page) on Sun, Dec 2, 12 at 5:48
| Emerald Beaut is a nice erect tree and sets well (needs a little thinning)and those green plums look gorgeous. Then as they ripen most crack and rot, that has been the main problem. The Dapple Dandy does not crack much at all. Scott, the Flavor Heart caught some frost and did not set many. Santa Rosa was the only other tree to get frost during bloom, guess timing. Flavor Heart pluots are beautiful large black color and pointed, but just a pleasant flavor. Lacking complex flavor, I would not call them a pluot, just a plum. Dapple Dandy 2011(my 2012 photos have been lost to Sandy) |
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| Beautiful pluots Ace. |
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- Posted by john_in_sc z7, upstate SC (My Page) on Wed, Feb 27, 13 at 16:59
| How did I miss this post.... Winners: Loosers: Still on the bubble: Thanks |
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