Yeah, AR is a beautiful grape but not very flavorful. I've tried them at the local farmer's markets for a couple of years and the flavor was just never there. I planted crimson seedless per your recommendation and was glad I did. CS is a real winner.

Crimson seedless has amazing holding ability. I've eaten them off the vine in January in the greenhouse. They have pretty good flavor but miniature bunches compared to AR.

Crazy...only way id get CS to work up here is in a high tunnel.