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Cherry variety 'May Duke'
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Vohd 9 (
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Tue, Oct 14, 14 at 16:01
| I am searching for scion, a benchgraft, or other source for the cherry cultivar 'May Duke' in the U.S. Does anyone know a source that may have it available? Many thanks |
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RE: Cherry variety 'May Duke'
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| I know Botner had it on his list and vaguely recall a west coast nursery was selling it at some point not too long ago, but I don't see it anywhere now. Scott |
RE: Cherry variety 'May Duke'
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- Posted by Vohd none (My Page) on
Fri, Oct 17, 14 at 11:36
| Thanks for the information. Is anyone aware of someone making available Cherry scion from Mr. Botner's collection this year? |
RE: Cherry variety 'May Duke'
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| I don't think anything is going to be available for quite a few years, a group is cloning his collection now and moving it to a new spot. Hopefully most of the varieties will be saved. Scott |
Here is a link that might be useful: TOC
RE: Cherry variety 'May Duke'
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| I don't know if this will help you in your search but I did find mention of it at ARS GRIN. It was donated by Cornell. Dr. Roger D. Way
Cornell University
New York State Agric. Exp. Station
Department of Horticulture
Geneva, New York 14456-0462 Phone: (315) 787-2217
Fax: 315-787-2397 |
Here is a link that might be useful: 'May Duke'
RE: Cherry variety 'May Duke'
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RE: Cherry variety 'May Duke'
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| Also check with the Gillet Institute. I found this slide show, and it mentions they have May Duke on page 66. Gillet Institute
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RE: Cherry variety 'May Duke'
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| Thanks a lot, Scott and Milehighgirl. Hopefully I'll have luck trying the Blaines. |
This post was edited by Vohd on Sat, Oct 18, 14 at 15:27
RE: Cherry variety 'May Duke'
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| Let me know if you have any luck. The more I read the more I wanted to try it. |
RE: Cherry variety 'May Duke'
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| The easy way to try a Duke is get Almaden from Raintree. If Andy Mariani liked it enough to want it propagated its probably as good or better than May Duke. My personal impression is they are more in the novelty category, but I have never eaten one. Scott |
RE: Cherry variety 'May Duke'
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- Posted by Vohd none (My Page) on
Sat, Oct 18, 14 at 16:56
| Thanks for the suggestion. I also have run across the Almaden Duke that Raintree offers but am not aware of any first-person evaluations of it, so it is a bit of an unknown to me. If anyone has tried the Almaden Duke, I'd be interested in hearing your impressions of it. I looked for it at Andy Mariani's cherry tasting this past summer and did not see it. He did have at least one seedling Mazzard (which Raintree reports as the believed parentage) which were interesting, but not outstanding, FWIW. |
RE: Cherry variety 'May Duke'
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| Raintree says Almaden Duke is believed to be a seedling of Mazzard. If that's the case then it's not a real Duke is it? |
RE: Cherry variety 'May Duke'
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| Aren't the Hungarian cherries Duke cherries? I have Kansas Sweet, too, which seems like a nice tree here. It's not of bearing age, but I like how it's growing. I've read different things about its parentage, but I just care that it's rumored to like the heat here a bit more than most cherries. If that means no sweet cherry parentage, that's fine, too. |
RE: Cherry variety 'May Duke'
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- Posted by Vohd none (My Page) on
Tue, Oct 21, 14 at 2:36
| Milehighgirl, with the caveat that I'm likely far beyond my area of expertise, I think the answer is it depends on whether the other parent of 'Almaden Duke' was a "sour" cherry; but, if I had to guess, I'd conclude the same thing that you did. Meredith, I think some are and some are not, e.g., my understanding is that Balaton is a "sour" cherry. |
Here is a link that might be useful: The ARS GRIN record for Balaton classifies it as prunus cerasus
RE: Cherry variety 'May Duke'
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| None of the Hungarian sours are Dukes, they are Morellos (red-fleshed sours). Or so I was told.. Mazzard is a generic name for a sweet cherry so if the pollen was a sour then Almaden should be a Duke cherry, right? Scott |
RE: Cherry variety 'May Duke'
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| I found a cherry that seems similar and is available from ARS-GRIN. It is also listed as AVIUM X CERASUS. It only has a number: DPRU 113 |
Here is a link that might be useful: DPRU 113
RE: Cherry variety 'May Duke'
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- Posted by Vohd none (My Page) on
Tue, Oct 21, 14 at 23:17
| Thanks for the tip, milehighgirl. It seems to be 'Belle Magnifique.' The 20 deg. Brix observation is surprising and intriguing--above Governor Wood, Sato Nishiki and some other good cherries in the same dataset; although, in the other 16.9 deg. dataset, the order of the values flip to some extent. Definitely worth a closer look. |
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