Originally, I was going to order a couple of pecan and pawpaw trees. But after debating with myself, I think I've decided to keep it light this year.

I've decided to place just one order from Nourse Farms. I haven't ordered from them before, but they have good reviews and overall good prices.

I'm going to re-do my two raised strawberry beds. So, I'll order 50 everbearing strawberries of two different varieities. Though, I haven't completely narrowed down which two varieties, yet. Maybe Monterey and San Andreas. Ozark Beauty did well here, but they don't offer it. Seascape started off well, but quickly died out. I won't order them again. I'd like to try Mara Des Bois, but not sure they'd do well here, either.

I'm also going to order one Chandler blueberry to replace the one I accidently killed last year.

And, finally, I think I'm going to order one each of the three varieties of gooseberries that they offer: Invicta, Hinnomaki Red, and Tixia. I'm also not sure how well they'll do here, so they will be more experimental.

So, what's on your list?

Fuji, Pink Lady, & Mollies Delicious apples, Morris, Santa Rosa, & Burbank Plums, Warren, Ayers, & Moonglow Pears, Halls Hardy, & Texas Mission Almonds. I'm planning on starting several pecan seedlings this year and then graft them later.

So far the only bare root I've ordered is a Burchell nursery plumcot/pluot called "Golden Sunset". It's new for 2015, I got to try them at a fruit tasting and they're outstanding.

I'm sure I'll pick up a couple more trees once bare root season gets here.

Anyone else have a wish list or have placed an order yet?

With our orchard filled up already, I can only do so much.

looking forward to fruit in a year or two.

Also on the list was the new Leah Cot, some Baba Red Raspberry and Fall Gold Raspberry.

Keeping it light this year. :)

I'll be on the lookout for gold nugget and kishu mandarins.

I'd also like to add flavor grenade pluot and cot n candy aprium.

Mrs. G, I hear you about having to call done. I still have a long list but the rest will have to wait till next year.

I have already ordered, received and planted Stark Saturn Donut, Blushingstar and Intrepid peach trees. Also, Elephant heart, spring satin and starking delicious plum trees (guess what online orchard....lol).

Ordered Satsuma,Emerald Beaut, weeping santa rosa and mariposa plum from bay laurel in california. this will be january delivery and i hope they make the trip from california in one peace. I was a little worried about ordering from a nursery that far away but they were the only orchard that had all the varieties i wanted. Typically, people in my area plant only auburn plums. I have all the auburn plums and want to experiment with california plum trees. So far my santa rosa and methley have done well but not as well as the auburn plums - they stay loaded.

I just ordered kidds orange red apple from cummins. we'll be delivered before Dec 1 they said. Thought real hard about adding Gold Rush but i held off! I will instead buy an apple called 'Carters Blue' for a local nursery (Pedals from the Past). CB is suppose to be one, if not the only, apple founded in alabama. it was discovered in my mothers home town of mt meigs alabama. I could not resist. Anyone heard of this apple or have any information on it? Local nursery did not have much info - other than it's good quality????

let me know what you all think. it's not to late to change my cummins or bay laurel orders.

I'm also planning an order to Nourse. I want to remove some of my primocane fruiting berries for floricanes which ripen before SWD.

I've also placed an order for a bunch of Jujube rootstocks (25) from Roger Meyer. I'm planning to graft a bunch and keep them in pots for a year or so. I know I won't have space for all of them, but they will make nice gifts to various parts of my family which wants to grow fruit without much effort.

In addition to the above, I'm (of course) ordering more apples. But probably only 2 this time (Zestar and Rubinette)- I'm on the fence about a 3rd. The last time I ordered less than a dozen was 2010, when we first moved from a townhouse. Most of the new varieties I add will now be grafted on, or from the few potted trees I haven't yet planted.

I'm also adding some interesting stonefruit, including Monique white apricot, Geneva Mirabelle plum, and Flavor Grenade pluot.

I don't plan on adding much of anything next year, I have some varieties I am removing but I have others that are not in optimal spots that I'd like to put in place of the removed things. So its musical chairs in my orchard next spring.

Scott

Even so, grafting does seem like the far easier way to add varieties. Now that I've started to see some success grafting, I'm looking forward to doing a lot more of it.

I've also got some things I'm planning to move around (why did I put those blueberries on the dry hillside...not a recipe for success). I've been waiting for things to go fully dormant, but I should probably get onto it before things get too cold. Sub-freezing temps probably aren't idea for transplanting (for me or the roots).

But isn't that what spring is all about? We dream of doing that all winter as we watch the snow fly and the thermometer at -25 degrees F. It is just when we are actually doing the running around like a chicken with its head cut off that we wonder what ever possessed us to order so much! Well, no pain, no gain. Northwoodswis

From Cummings Nursery I ordered an Opal and President euro plum for spring 2015 delivery.

Well my spring is not that bad, it's summer, well June 1st around where the harvest begins and does not end till November. A daily chore. I find that the most work of the garden. Planting is a breeze.
I put in some brambles this fall. Siskiyou and Marion blackberries. Also wild yellow cap black raspberries.
Only new vegetables in the spring, and maybe some brambles from seed.
I'm overwintering 6 pepper plants, so the gardening goes on indoors. 5 I have turned into bonsai peppers, and one I want to turn into a pepper tree about 6 feet tall.
Currently it is 3 feet tall.
Once I move in a few years I'll have a clean slate to fill. I will be buying as many trees as I can afford! Cannot wait, but a ways away! Also trying to take as many plants with me as possible is going to be a challenge too.

Ordered:
- Razz Blueberry

Will Order:
- Additional Grape Vine

So far, that is. Will probably also try to find an Illinois Everlasting mulberry to replace the one that didn't make it last spring, and also pick up some things on clearance in the spring. Hope I don't have to run around too much like a chicken with my head cut off to get it all planted. The weird thing is that I have never even tasted many of the things I have ordered. I figure I can always juice things and add sugar if necessary, or let the birds eat them. Northwoodswis

Northwoodswis, where did you order the Romeo cherry? The only place I've found it is Henry Fields.

My orchard is pretty much full, but in my nursery order I'm emphasizing Ruby Queen plums and Flavor Grenade pluots.

If anyone is interested, because my nursery is about trees that thrive in the northeast, here's what I'm ordering this year. Many choices not made and made are because of availability from nurseries I order from or overstock in my nursery at the time.

Summer Beaut nectarine (Eastern glo was unavailable), Sugar Pearl and Tomcot apricots (Orangered not available), Desiree, Encore, John Boy, Messina and Coral Star peaches (spreads the harvest season nicely), Baldwin, Zestar, Goldrush, Crimson Crisp, Auvil Early Fuji, Ginger Gold, Granny Smith, Macoun, Northern Spy, Yellow Newtown, and Baldwin apples.

I'm overloaded with plums and besides Ruby Queen only ordered Empress, because it is very precocious yet strong growing for a Euro, and I intend to dress the trees up with some interesting grafts. The range of trees in my nursery is much enhanced with grafts.

I should probably mention that one peach I like a lot but that I've ordered more than I need previously is Tango.

Northwoodswis, OK- I gave in and ordered a Romeo. Henry Fields also has the same coupons, so they are effectively $12.50 + shipping.

Harvestman, I think I've found the shovel you are referencing on Amazon. You're right- it is definitely a splurge at $140. Do you find it better than a 6' iron bar because it has the shovel head to balance the rock on? I've been very happy with the iron bar for 2 main reasons. 1- it is great to use the point end to loosen up the dirt (and small/medium stones) before shoveling it out. 2- the other end (a ~2" flattened edge) is great for levering rocks out. I really like that I don't need to worry about breaking it. I've actually gotten it in at the right angle (preferably almost horizontal), then jumped up and down on the other end with all my weight.

I pay around $100 for the KofS, but AM Leonard gives me a commercial discount. AML has their own version of it for less but I bent their's within a week of use. I found another version on line (only about $60) made by Bully tools, whose line includes some very well made tools but this spade wasn't nearly strong enough for my purposes. Their regular shovels are unusually strong.

Let me know what you're getting rid of & why. Maybe I could take some of them off your hands-- do the digging for you-- & trial them in the mountains.

If you'd rather not bother, then I would completely understand. No prob.

I'm about an hour's drive away from you. One man's trash...

-Matt

Ordered for Spring Delivery:
1) Shenandoah PawPaw
2) Susquehanna PawPaw

I've definitely got fruit tree fever! Wish I'd started years ago.

I'm thinking you are in the NY area- maybe I'm mistaken and you are in the arid west where your choices might be easier to bring to fruition.

So for me, planting trees and shrubs has been a way to improve the site, make it feel more protected, create shade, block the wind, and of course grow fruit. To this end, I imagine I will continue adding fruiting plants as long as I live here. Many of the plants just get watered during the summer, and some don't even need that! So the time spent in caring for them is not extraordinary.

Drew, part of it is impatience to try all the different varieties. If all my plantings were mature and producing at their theoretical capacity, I'm sure there is no way we could use all the fruit. But, that just means that I don't need to be as concerned about productivity. At that point, I could aggressively thin and get the best quality. It's also possible that some won't do well, or I just won't like the taste. I won't feel so bad eliminating it, if there are plenty of good producers.

Limits? It's an addiction, don't you know? Northwoodswis

I have always been a collector, or a hoarder, so yes it is. I collected vinyl, and my wife almost killed me for all the money I spent on it. But then i sold one on Ebay for $800.00, and another for $1,200.00 then one for $2,900.00. Which is more than I ever spent on the whole collection, and she shut up.
When I come up with a fruit patent and everybody wants it, she'll shut up again about the garden.

Bob, I think you and I are on the same wavelength as far as trying out lots of things. I'm also really glad I tried out so many varieties as some of my favorites are things nobody has ever heard of. At this point I'm switching gears to focus on more production from my favorite varieties, but I don't regret the 12 years growing hundreds of varieties one bit!

Scott

Chris.

Ray, there's definitely a delayed gratification involved in growing fruit. I haven't hit the point where I say "why did I plant so much?". Normally it is more like "why didn't I plant xxx 3 years ago?".

Bob...when I bought my home several years ago I didn't want to clutter things up with too many trees like I had before. But now I wish I had planted more earlier and just been very careful and judicious in my choices and placement. One day soon I'll have a big place and will probably go wild with things. I sometimes wonder if after I'm gone (hopefully 20+ years from now) if my little boy who will then be a grown man will be out with a chainsaw cutting down my trees at his mother's request. I hope not, but I've had that dream before.

Bonsai is a way for me to grow more trees in a small place! Yes! These are not mine, but is what I'm shooting for, these are all pepper plants.

Grafting is perfect for collectors, as you don't need as much space. You can try 1 branch worth of the fruit before deciding how much more of it you may want to grow.

I'm going to try and graft unto a grape vine this spring. My first graft, I will move to trees eventually. I need to look up old posts on technique.

Oh and stay on subject besides the 5 bonsai I added, i will add a 4 or so black currants this year.

I have several vines along a fence near the driveway from the previous owners which produces not-very-tasty, seeded, disease prone grapes. I've been trying to graft over them for the last year and a half. I'll give it another try next spring. I'll also do a bit more reading, as it's clear I need a different technique.

Make a shout out on this forum for growers in your area and scout out any commercial growers with an adventurous approach in your region. Fruit trees are addictive and unbelievably engaging only when they come with actual harvests.

I think Hidden Springs nursery is in TN and the owners have probably tried growing everything that does well there. Maybe you should try to contact them for some advice on what's practical to grow where you are.

Drew's encouragement is misguided, IMO- there is thoughtful experimentation and there is chasing windmills, and they are not the same.

There are regional limitations that are pretty much written in stone, without a greenhouse. I have been trying on my site for 25 years to produce kaki persimmons, and although I started by choosing varieties that are supposedly hardy in my zone I've yet to realize a crop of more than a few fruit- and that is by bringing the tree indoors for the winter. My favorite boyhood fruit of apricots took about 20 years before I stuck the right variety on the southeast wall of my house

Not just cherries, but I also doubt you will taste apricots off your trees more than 1 in 4 years- and that is if you start with a variety like Tomcot, known to do reasonably well in the southeast. Nectarines will require much more spray than peaches, so you really should start with an early season variety- probably something from Adams County Nursery, and Babcock is a CA peach and likely highly susceptible to bacterial leaf spot and probably, due to a low chilling requirement, likely to flower in Feb, like your apricot and maybe Japanese plums.

That is the little I can provide off the top of my head, not based on growing in your area, but I do read posts from experienced growers all over the country.

Make sure you include some apples and pears known to do well in your region. They will probably be your most reliable croppers- they bloom later than stonefruit. Expect to need to spray.

Just because it is not easy to find accurate local advice does not mean it is unavailable. As I suggest, post a request on this forum, Lucky lives in TN, I believe, and has decades of experience growing (and failing to grow) a wide range of fruit in your area. I believe he grows Kakis (and other fruit, of course). Nick England's nursery is in KY, I think, so he's another source of credible advice from a grower in your approximate climate.

Yeah you probably made some bad choices, but sometimes you never know. Low chill requirements is not a big deal. Most of my plants will meet their chill requirements here before January, yet they don't flower in February, They don't know what month it is. Knowing how they fruit helps. Like blueberries with low chill tend to flower once temps are above 45 degrees. As long as temps are below 45 degrees they will not flower. Knowledge is power, as always I take truth to power.
Hman's overly pessimistic view is unknown to me? I can grow anything, but would I want to? No, too difficult, but no doubt can be done. I might want to take on a difficult cultivar for breeding or something but would otherwise stay away.
Best to at first grow known cultivars that are proven to work in your area. Then try ones that should work in your area, but are untested, then you can experiment after you have those two goals under your belt.
I have seen your melons, you have great skill.
. You could still probably change your order too. OK, I see you already planted them. Well worth giving it a go now.
I was looking at Babcock and it is suggested for the lower south, you are in the mid-south, I guess? Not that far from ideal range, it should work! If not you could try the giant Babcock, which fruits later and has a 500 hour chill requirement. Still Babcock should be fine in your location.
Local is not always a big deal. Tomatoes are tropical plants from South America, so sorry, I'm still growing them.

I should mention that the fruiting wood is kept inches form the wall.

Why don't you talk to your local local extension agent about your plans. Mcminnville, TN is also just about the biggest supplier of fruiting trees in the country. Call those companies and pick their brains. Don't make the mistake of planting trees, that you have no idea are going to work for you. You have to learn how to garden smart, and that is not smart gardening.
Understandably, you have what I call catalogueitis. You see pictures and glowing descriptions of all of these wonderful fruits, and you can't wait to see them in your yard. Find out first, if they will work for you, and if so, then buy them. It's like I used to harp to my Finance students. Investigate first, before you invest in anything.

I got contacted today by the nursery I ordered from and they apologized for shipping late. The weather has been bad here with a lot of rain so they are adding an extra tree for free to the order. They do not carry a lot of different varieties but the ones they carry work good in the area I am in since they are grown about 60 miles away from me. I was able to get about a dozen trees for around $100. I'll post pictures when the trees arrive.

Rayrose- I am very familiar with fruit tree farm and have several of their trees. I have a local nursery that carries some of their products and I have their web site in my favorites, but the $100 limit prevented me from ordering direct- but if they will waive that I will try them. As for me being misinformed about many of the Mcminville nurseries not selling fruit trees, I based it on the fact that I did a google search for "McMinville nursery" and 11 nurseries came up. I went to their web sites or called all 11 of them and only 3 out of 11 sold fruit trees retail and one of them only had a few items in stock last year when I called. The other 8-9 either didn't carry fruit trees or they were wholesale only. But like I said, they are a few hours drive away so I'm not sure how much assistance I could get over the phone anyway. But thanks for mentioning it.

This year I added about 15 fruit trees. So in total I have about 27 fruit trees, 7 types. Some may not set fruits, some may be picked off by birds or deer. I can store apples for quite a few months. Almost same with pears. I can dry apricot. So I'm not concerned with disposing the fruits. At $15 or so a tree, this is not a huge deal. I'll have to think over if this is $35 a tree.

I'm pretty much set on fruit trees and will only buy more if they die. I'm going to add more grapes and use the grape to make wine. That is another different chapter. All the extra fruits can be used in making wines.

Most of the stuff I already have, just ordering a few more.

Blondee apple, Zestar apple, Pristine apple

Peaches/Nects
TangOs, TangOs II, BuenO II, Sweet Breeze, Intrepid, Challenger, White River, Honey Blaze, Redgold, Ambre

Plums
Victory

I grafted quite a few peach trees and plan to move a lot of those to permanent locations.

This spring will be my third order from Fruit Tree Farm (i.e. Cumberland). In the past I've been pleased with their stock, and more pleased w/ their prices. Although last year the trees were pretty small, that doesn't bother me, so long as they are healthy.

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there are lots of others that I know of other people use

Two weeks ago I made the following order:

Pixie Cot Miniature Apricot - to try in container

Arbiquina olive - also to try in container

4X1 Apple with Akane, Chehalis, Honeycrisp, Beni Shogun and Jonagold - one of these 5 will be missing, but I won't know until I get the tree. This is on M 106. The selection is for supposed disease resistance. It is to replace a small tree that I grafted last year that died. I have Jonagold but I can graft on a whip/tongue of Liberty so it's not redundant. I also have a Honeycrisp on M27 but it stays so puny, I don't mind repeating it on a more vigorous stock. So that might turn into a 5 in one at the outset or in budding season.

I could another paw paw if I can find a large specimen at the right time that has promise in my climate. I already have 3 small paw paws, so maybe I should stop there. I don't know how they will do.

I also have a number of starts that need to go into the ground in late winter / early Spring. Got carried away last year with propagating, and now I want to make room on the deck for the apricot, olive, and a Bonanza genetic dwarf peach I containerized.

I understand about not knowing how long one will be around. I'm glad I started the others when I did. Want a taste of my supposedly disease resistant peaches this year - Q-1-8, Indian Free, Charlotte, Oregon Curl-Free. Charlotte had one peach last year, ironic because it had bad Peach Leaf Curl. And maybe a paw paw, even one would be exciting. And a big bowl of mulberries... And.....

Very interesting to read what people are growing.

olpea, last year I also bought White River from CVN, in addition to White Diamond. I was lucky enough to go out to the field to have all my trees dug. Nick, who runs the place, dug a White Diamond that had a little spot on it, so he dug a second one and just gave it to me. The Carolina Gold that I got there a couple years ago produced the best tasting peaches that I've ever had. He did say the trees were small last year due to a cool summer and way too much rain.

cityman, give Nick at CVN a call. I think they may have removed his phone # from the website - the number they have listed now may be for the guy who runs the internet ordering, but Nick is who you want to talk to. I have his number if you need it. They also grow things that aren't listed on the website.

I've been wanting to try White River again. I had a tree of it at one time, but it died before it fruited.

I can't understand how CVN can sell trees so cheap. Their retail prices are cheaper than many other nurseries' wholesale prices. They have more southern varieties of peaches, and I've been a bit afraid to try many of them, but it's a great nursery.

Most of their"southern "varieties average in the 750-850 chilling hours range. If you can handle that, I'd definitely buy from them. You can get a lot of them on Guardian for only 75 cents extra, and they'll waive the $100 minimum order. I've never gotten a bad tree from them. The only time that I don't order from them, is when they don't carry the variety that I want.

I just added another tree to my Raintree order for Spring. I figured there is room for one more pawpaw. After looking at many websites, it looks like Mango is a fast growing paw paw variety, so I ordered it.

I saw on the Fedco site there are many varieties of apple and plum scion. So I'm thinking about adding some of those. I spent a few hours reading through 3 references for every variety I could find, for disease resistant, - especially fireblight - preferably old varieties, and think I will add Granite Beauty, Keepsake, Priscilla, Redfield, Porter, and McIntosh to my multivariety apple trees. May add a couple of plums to a plum tree as well.

Cheap prices? Shop around. They charge $25 to ship one to five trees.

Shipping Charges

1-5 Trees: $25.00
6-10 Trees: $30.00
11-15 Trees: $37.00
16-25 Trees: $45.00
26-40 Trees: $60.00
41+ Trees: Call for pricing

It is good if you buy a bunch. The prices are fine, but there are cheaper sources with great quality trees....

Not really that bad, who ships for lower prices?

Rayrose,

Most of my concern isn't the chill hours, it's that a lot of the southern peaches have more of a reputation for winter tenderness. Last years colder winter hit some of my varieties really hard. I've heard the Prince series peaches are more tender, and I've heard the same about some other southern varieties, although I think many southern varieties (like Elberta) tolerate cold well enough. I have tried some of the Prince series peaches, I just haven't put in very many of them. Interestingly, CVN also sells some pretty hardy peaches, like Challenger and Intrepid.

So far I've ordered enough to reach their minimum (I didn't know they had a minimum) but still have ordered some of their peaches on Guardian.

"Cheap prices? Shop around. They charge $25 to ship one to five trees."

RedSun,

I have shopped around and CVN has been pretty cheap for me. My order for this coming spring is 9 trees for $106.50, which includes the $30 shipping ($11.83/tree).

My current Adams County Nursery order for 25 trees (first price break at 25 trees) is $350 or $14/tree.

I've ordered trees from VanWell, which is one of the cheapest wholesale nurseries I've found. Their wholesale pricing is better than than CVN retail pricing, but you have to order a minimum of 50 trees to get the really good pricing at VanWell, and I don't need 50 trees from them right now.

The Cummins order is $151.85 for 5 trees, or $30.37 per tree. It would be more, but they were nice enough to continue giving me the 20+ pricing due to past purchases, even though my current order falls below the threshold. Cummins is similar to CVN in terms of selection, but for apples instead of peaches.

The CVN trees aren't as big (7/16" vs mostly 5/8" or more) as those from the above nurseries (including ACN), but since peaches grow so quickly, I'm not sure that it matters.

Based on Scott and others experiences, I really want to try the Red Baron peach. I'm getting what I can from Peaceful Valley and going BayLaurel for the remainder of my Dave Wilson order.

The other thing is that, I do not want large trees. Two or three feet is all I need. I still need to train them the way I want. Four to five feet trees are too large.

I care production more than the varieties. I'll be happy with Fuji apple, then trying some new trees I have never tasted the fruits.

For CVN's 70 peaches, I do not know most of them. Some of them should be very similar and we may not be able to tell the difference. A lot of them are probably not good for my area anyway. So I am not going to babysit them for five years and use my valable garden area, only find out that I do not like the particular peach.

This is very similar to growing many varieties of garlic. But the good things for garlic are that, not using much space, one season growing, low cost. I just do not plant them next year if I do not like hem, or they do not grow well.

Anyhow, I'm not going to pay $30 or more for some apple or peach trees. Maybe once a while for some vary hard to find varieties.

Happy shopping. Hope we have nursery black Friday.

As far as prices go, many I want are expensive. To me taste is everything. I don't need heavy production. Only the wife and I live here.
When I move in three years I will have to start over and fruittreefarm looks good with the low prices. They have some top rate tasting peaches I want to try. Redskin, Loring,Redhaven, Winblo, Jefferson, Carolina Gold, and O'Henry. My only concern is rootstock. I prefer Lovell, but I guess will try guardian. I can see why they use it. Lovell is a terrible rootstock for the south because of peach tree short life (PTSL). It might be an excellent rootstock for here too.

I have a Flavor Grenade with citation rootstock, but would prefer it on myro. J. plums bear early anyway and the vigor of myro is nothing but an asset for J. plums if you have adequate space.

I consider FG a J.plum becuase It has absolutely no visible or sensual characteristics of an apricot. If I was the apricot husband of the plum that bore FG I would sue her for divorce under the grounds of adultery. Must of been fooling around with some handsome J.plum guy.