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Got my first "Smith's Best" Japanese persimmon -- quite good

Posted by gonebananas 7/8 (My Page) on
Sun, Nov 11, 12 at 11:15

A nice rich flavor. Ripened on the tree, or still more so a sapling (in a 25 gallon pot).

Ol' Dr. Smith had a lot to choose from, so his best should be good I suppose.

My in-ground persimmon was bought as a "Tannenashi" but by all evidence is a "Eureka." It was loaded with fruit this year but never achieved the richer flavor when fully ripe that it used to. It ripened better than last year though, and another poster 100-200 miles west of me noted the same blandness then.


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RE: Got my first "Smith's Best" Japanese persimmon -- quite good

  • Posted by rian 7va (My Page) on
    Mon, Nov 12, 12 at 8:30

Different weather conditions surely affect flavor. I have two Asian Pears and most years Hosui are the best tasting. Once every four or five years the Shinseiki are just amazing. In those years the Hosui are kind of bland.

The oriental persimmons I grow are Ichi, Wasa Fuyu and Hana Fuyu. If I had it to do over again, I would not have planted three non-astringent persimmons. The astringent ones are safe from squirrels and also protect non-astringents planted nearby.


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RE: Got my first "Smith's Best" Japanese persimmon -- quite good

GB, how many year did it took for Smith best to produce in the 25 gallon pot?


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RE: Got my first "Smith's Best" Japanese persimmon -- quite good

GB, it is always nice to hear a report on a particular variety.

Is your Smith's Best pollinated?


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RE: Got my first "Smith's Best" Japanese persimmon -- quite good

It had two fruit in its second year from the mail-order nursery (so not too big to begin with). I know I should have removed them to throw growth into wood, but who can bear the temptation to taste it soon? The plant is probably not more that 4-5 feet tall, with one fruit still left on for my son to taste when ripe.

I forget whether there were a few seeds in it, but there are many other Asian and native persimmons near it. Some other Asian persimmons have seeds, so some male flowers seem to be around. I forget the details of Asian persimmon pollination.


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RE: Got my first "Smith's Best" Japanese persimmon -- quite good

Is giboshi the same as smiths best? I just got my first giboshi, they're very very good


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RE: Got my first "Smith's Best" Japanese persimmon -- quite good

From what I understand smiths best and giboshi are the same variety. It is one of my favorites for several reasons. The tree is dwarf, very productive even without a male tree around and they ripen fairly early. I usually harvest most of mine around Halloween though a few fruits will ripen earlier than this. And the flavor is rich and quite sweet. These are so good scooped into a bowl and cream added.


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