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Is This Pear Tree Too Large to Move?

My friend offered me this Asian pear tree. The tree appears in nice shape. But it seems very large, about 2" to 3" diameter at least? How much efforts are required to dig it up and move it to my yard?

I think I'll have to cut down the branches severely, just to drag it into my van. Not sure if the branches are flexible enough to be tied. I think I'll need to cut off some of the competing central leaders.

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Comments (21)

  • alan haigh
    9 years ago

    It is a project because pears don't move very well bare root. Over 2" in diameter and I usually kill them trying to move them this way, even when I get most of the root.

    Ball and burlap is what's probably required here, and an adequate ball will require 2 men to load it in and out of your vehicle.

    Most other species can be moved bare root up to most any size.

  • rayrose
    9 years ago

    I feel sorry for those two men, unless they're named John and Deere.

  • alan haigh
    9 years ago

    Good point. I'm not an equipment guy but a back hoe would sure take the pain out of moving it as would a tree spade.

  • RedSun (Zone 6, NJ)
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    I moved this tree today. It was not too bad. Took me about 2 hours to get tree in the car. Then another 1.5 hours to get it planted.

    I cut down one of the central leaders, also all the broken branches during the transit. More pruning is needed to shape the tree and get the canopy smaller to compensate for the lost roots. I hope it can make it. I still have two more spot for Asian pear trees.

  • Fascist_Nation
    9 years ago

    2 strong men who are not me.

    This post was edited by Fascist_Nation on Sat, Nov 15, 14 at 20:42

  • appleseed70
    9 years ago

    Let us know if it survives and takes ahold ok in the spring. I'll give you credit, I wouldn't have tried it.

  • alan haigh
    9 years ago

    You neglected to say how you moved the roots- in a ball or bare.

  • RedSun (Zone 6, NJ)
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    The tree was purchased from a local nursery. They carry hundreds of fruit trees, 8 varieties of Asian pears, 5 varieties of Asian persimmons, 4 varieties of pomegranate, and jujube. 10 and 15 gallon truly container grown. I believe Asian pears go for $49.99 a tree. My friend bought 3 of them. He said this pear tastes the best. But the tree is in the center of his vege garden. He has a small yard. The two other trees are smaller and not in full sun.

    I got to his house at about 10:30 am. The temp was like 45F. Cloudy, some winter rain on Friday, but not wet. I started digging with my shovel, pick and large pruner. I forgot to bring my hand rake.

    The soil is farm clay/loam, not muddy, not sticky, but moist. I started from 6' diameter, cut some of the big roots. Then we bent the trunk and cut off the couple of big roots at the bottom. We did not want to keep the entire rootball since 5' rootball with soil would be too heavy. We just let the soil naturally fell to ground, but still somehow kept the soil at the center.

    To reduced the weight and size, I cut off the 2nd central leader, and reduced the size, so the tree could pass the gate and fit into the vehicle. It was a 10 minutes drive.

    After we moved the tree off the vehicle, I covered the roots with a camping tarp. I measured the rootball and enlarged the planting hole to about 6' large. The rootball is about 5' large. I put dowm some bone meal in the hole and set the plant in. It is planted at the same depth as before. I watered the tree with water, but not too much since we have freezing night temp. I firmed the soil and made sure the tree is straight. I'm going to put down some mulch today.

    The tree is planted near my other two Asian pears. I plan to get at least one more Asian pear. I d not know the exact variety, but the fruit skin is green brown, just like Olympic. He did not thin the fruits hard enough the past season, so the fruits were small.

    I already started to shape the tree, cutting all the broken branches, water sprouts, bad old prune stubs, cross branches. The size of the tree should be reduced.

    Next season, I plan to put down some Greenlight or other root stimulator. Then let it set a couple fruits, just to see what fruits it sets. I just hope the tree makes it. I do not have much to lose.

    The tree is more than 3" diameter. And I did not get rootball with much soil. But the weather is right. I believe the fall season helps the roots to heal, sit and take a break. It would be bad to move it in spring.

    This post was edited by RedSun on Sun, Nov 16, 14 at 10:38

  • RedSun (Zone 6, NJ)
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    Here is the planted tree. I still see two more central leaders to be cut. More cuts are needed.

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  • rayrose
    9 years ago

    Hman, you need to hire this guy. He certainly knows what he's doing.
    Redsun, that's quite an accomplishment. Good luck with the tree.

  • 2010champsbcs
    9 years ago

    Redsun. Great job. Hope the tree survives.

  • ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5
    9 years ago

    lots of excersize ...

    and you learned a lot ...

    but i wouldnt work that hard for 30 to 50 bucks... delivered to my house ... in the mail ...

    i hope it works out ... all it really needs next year is PROPER WATERING ...

    i dont know if i would bother with root stim nor fert ... on an already highly stressed tree ..

    sounds like you had fun ... when you get older.. you will start looking at the labor you put into it.. and wonder why you used to work so hard... lol ...

    good luck

    ken

    ps: i am thinking.. i would look to let it set fruit in 2 to 3 years ... not next year.. but i am a tree guy.. not a fruit nut ....

  • RedSun (Zone 6, NJ)
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    Thanks.

    No, it is not anything about $. My friend has a bad back and he wanted this tree out of the garden. If we cut it down, we still have to dig out the roots. So you do not save a lot of efforts.

    I also dug out two young grape vines, a small spice tree, from that small garden.

    It is also a good way to prune and train a large fruit tree. It is actually easier than I thought. We had several trees down from Sandy. The roots were much worse than this. We dug out a very large Douglas Fir (about 20'?) since it was uprooted.

  • alan haigh
    9 years ago

    Sounds like you did all you could short of balling it with string and burlap, but I haven't had much luck with Asain bare root transplants, like I said. Sure hope it works for you.

    Thanks for the play by play, we've all enjoyed it.

  • fruitnut Z7 4500ft SW TX
    9 years ago

    Redsun:

    It probably won't make much difference in your climate but I'd water enough to make sure the soil around the roots is fully wet and settled. Freezing won't hurt at all and is no reason to leave the soil loose. I know you firmed the soil but watering well always causes the soil to settle further. There is nothing that fully wetting the soil will hurt.

  • RedSun (Zone 6, NJ)
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    Thx all. We do not have the equipment to ball and burlap the tree. Most of the feeder roots are still there, just not the thick roots.

    I'll water it more, since the hole is about 6' large. I was concerned with the night freezing temp. The ground is not frozen yet, but the dug soil was frozen.

  • skyjs
    9 years ago

    I did that to a Conference pear twice that size. It was a lot of work, but I wanted the tree, partly because the scions are graft compatible with quince. It fruited heavily this year. It was very much worth it. To me, most of us need to get more exercise. In my climate, it's harder to get exercise in the dormant part of the year. We move trees, bushes, etc this time of year. It's not below 40 degrees hardly ever.
    JOhn S
    PDX OR

  • jean001a
    9 years ago

    With freezing, weather it's much better to have a thoroughly moist rootball than a partially wet one.

    The reason:
    Moist soil retains warmth longer than does dry soil.

    Said another way, it takes longer for roots in moist soil to freeze than it will for roots in dry soil.

  • RedSun (Zone 6, NJ)
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    It is 40F now and is raining. So nothing needs to be done now.

    I think I'm going to take out the central leaders and train the tree as a vase shape. Do not want the tree to grow too tall, hard to pick fruits that way.

  • RedSun (Zone 6, NJ)
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    Cut the tree more, most of the water sprouts and the competing central leaders. Kept a whip as the new leader. I may need to cut the two Y shaped branches more.

    In total, I think I cut from 1/3 to 2/5 of the top growth. I think this is enough for now.

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  • tomIL
    9 years ago

    I've been reading the progress. I would do the same if given such "problem".

    Nevertheless, very nice tree...

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