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| Hi, I have a few 1,5 y.o. seedlings grown from the seeds of the market bought persimmons, collected when I visited my family in Russia. The fruits weren't locally grown, but were delivered from somewhere down south, maybe Uzbekistan or Turkey. Anyway, the seedlings are growing good in my back yard, went unprotected through the first winter with temps 24F. So, now I am facing dilemma: should I graft them or let them grow until the first fruits? What are the chances of growing good tasting fruits from the Chocolate seeds? |
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- Posted by Fascist_Nation USDA 9b, Sunset 13, (My Page) on Tue, Nov 11, 14 at 16:22
| It will likely take at least ten years before a seeding will produce fruit. Persimmons are not true from seed, but it is not unusual for them to produce a decent tasting fruit (figure 1 in 10 acceptable which is good odds)...but it is unlikely to be like Chocolate which is readily available, and I would not be surprised if it were astringent. Also 50:50 it is a male. D. kaki is a good rootstock for hot arid environments. They have a tall taproot so re-potting or planting soon is key. If you have the grafting material available I would graft them as that would likely produce within 3-5 years. But grafting persimmons is not easy due to the brittle nature of the tree. I doubt it would bother an experienced grafter but it likely will not make a good first time. Whip and cleft grafts are the ones commonly used: http://www.crfg.org/pubs/ff/persimmon.html |
Here is a link that might be useful: grafting
This post was edited by Fascist_Nation on Tue, Nov 11, 14 at 16:54
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| F_N, Before anyone told me persimmons were 'hard to graft', I did a few - just a simple splice graft (not even W&T) with dormant scionwood onto actively growing seedling understock; wrapped with parafilm and a grafting/budding rubber. 100% success. Biggest thing with persimmons is 'aftercare' during the first growing season - you have to frequently (like, at least twice a week) keep rootstock shoots below the graft rubbed off, or the understock will push its own material and starve out the scion. |
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| Thank you, F_N, I guess, I will have to take my chances in grafting these seedlings. I have been practicing a little - have successful graft of avocado and mulberry, but not persimmon. Thanks Lucky_p, for the aftercare tip. If out of 10 grafts only 2-3 takes, that would be enough for me to do a happy dance. |
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