Thanks.

Scott

I've found control of PC adequate, but not great. However, I don't do the actual spraying and don't have complete assurance of best timing.

Had an awful lot of mite damage on apples with this program last year.

I have had excellent luck against the apple maggots and coddling moths which are our biggest problem pests here.

This year, Plum curculio and Oriental Fruit moth attacked my peaches and Asian pears much sooner than previous years. I tried to put footsies only on the undamaged peaches. In the end, half (or more) of my peaches that grew to size were damaged, evidently by PC and OFM.

I have never sprayed to protect Asian pears before. My good luck ran out this year, about 30% of A. pears had some damages from the bugs. Pear skin is tougher than peaches and the fruit grows faster. I think that's why the damages on them were not as extensive as peaches . I'll spray them next year.

I would not put footsies and spray Surround together. I'd do one or the other. I think I'll switch to spray Surround next year. After putting footsies on over 200 peaches this year, I was tired of it.

I did some tests with footies but the work of 1000+ footies for me is what led to my switch to spraying.

Scott

Based on that, I may have had problems with both. I saw plenty of ooze but I also had problems with fruit fall. At the end, I had only 4 peaches left on my tree out of probably 15. All the others had fallen off. I know these pests will be back spring next year especially since I didn't know to dispose of the fallen fruit asap. That's why it is crucial that I have a plan of action ready to go.

I'd like to stay organic but I also recognize that may make things even more challenging.

I admire your tenacity. I gave up at 200+ peaches with footsies, long before the 1000 you both did.

I've found that putting footsies on peaches is a lot more time-consuming than baggging apples with plastic bags. I can bag apples much faster and more efficiently.

North - in 2012, I bagged apples late. Many were damaged from coddling moths and some PC. I bagged apples earlier this year, soon after petal fall. I did thin them before I bagged, at an early stage. I don't wait for June drop. I've found that with early thinning, I did not suffer many June drops like what I read from other posters. Apple thinning is easier than pears because it's easy to recognize king fruit in each cluster. It's harder to figure which pears to thin out in a cluster.

With earlier bagging of apples, I had very good success this year. My apples (both William's Pride and Honey Crisp) were perfect. My friends could not believe how clean the apples were but they believed it because I let them pick the apples right from my trees.