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Muscadines or Scuppernogs Cuttings

Posted by dynamite1959 Tennessee (My Page) on
Sat, Nov 7, 09 at 22:38

I am finding sources for plants from wholesalers but find they are hybrid. Does anyone have a source for cuttings or plants that are true wild? I prefer to have the "scuppernogs" which are golden or bronze not the dark ones.


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RE: Muscadines or Scuppernogs Cuttings

Muscadines reproduce poorly from cuttings. They are layred commercially. (This possibly has changed recently with specialized treatments beyond what most nurseries would undertake.)

Isons (Georgia) and indeed a number of nurseries will have Scuppernong, presumed to be derived from the original vine in NC.

Most of the named selections in the trade 70 years ago would have been collected from the wild. Some are probably still available. It would take a little research to find the selection names from back then (an agricultural bulletin might be easiest) and compare to Ison's long list of selections available.


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RE: Muscadines or Scuppernogs Cuttings

If you want wild ones, you can grow from seeds of a good wild grape. Some will end up males of course.
Best to spend a few $ on a good known type that has been layered-rooted. With wild grapes, you can get at least 50% males or possibly even more. I'd contact a Muscadine grower and order good rooted vines.


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RE: Muscadines or Scuppernogs Cuttings

Although there are a few muscadine-bunch grape hybrids available, I suspect that you're mistakenly applying the 'hybrid' label incorrectly.
I really don't know why some folks shy away from 'hybrids' - which are the result of crossing two closely related species, especially when we're talking food-producing plants, it's not a 'Frankenplant' - just one that possesses the best traits of both parent species, and in many cases is better than either of its parent.
That said, what you're finding are probably not really hybrids - I suspect most are just improved selections of V.rotundifolia(muscadine grape), either chance seedlings or selections made from seedlings of select crosses - and selected for traits such as heavier bearing, larger fruit size, cold-hardiness, etc.

I'll second the recommendation for Isons - they're THE name in muscadine grapes.
If you're determined to have old or 'wild' types, they do offer an 'old-time favorites' package of Fry(bronze), Summit(red), and Cowart(black), three well-proven older varieties.

We had an old, old Scuppernong vine back home at the farm, but newer, improved varieties my dad planted decades later were markedly better - in fruit size, flavor, and productivity.

Here is a link that might be useful: Ison's


 
 

 

 


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