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ClarkinKS 5b (
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Thu, Dec 18, 14 at 4:14
Is anyone else planning to grow red fleshed apples this year? What varieties are you planning to grow? I'm considering growing firecracker
https://www.onegreenworld.com/Red Flesh Apples/677/ |
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RE: Who is growing red fleshed apples this year?
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| I am growing Scarlet Surprise, Rubaiyat, Thornberry, Blush Rosette, Grenadine, and Pink Parfait and Niedzwetzkyana. Except for the Niedzwetzkyana, I got all from Greenmantle Nursery as benchgrafts two years ago. The first year they were in 3 gallon pots and transplanted into the ground last year. None have fruited yet. I have been eyeing Firecracker as well. Mike |
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| I got red fleshed apples from Greenmantle two years ago as well. I bought Rubaiyat and Blush Rosette bench grafts The Rubaiyat died, a bird or some other critter broke it before the graft healed. The Blush Rosette is doing great and is about 6' tall, I'm hoping to get a couple apples this coming season. |
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I've tried to graft in winekist, but there seems to have been comparability issues.
May try again |
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- Posted by bob_z6 6b/7a SW CT (My Page) on
Thu, Dec 18, 14 at 13:30
| Steve, your graft being broken reminds me of a story I read once where the grafter would see a bird go from graft to graft, down a row breaking each one. It seems that they like to roost on the tallest one around...So, after he put up a tomato stake taller than than any of the grafts in the row, the bird(s) would use it instead and the breakages ceased. On the subject of red-fleshed apples, I grafted Scugog last year. But the graft hasn't grown that quickly, so it will probably be another year before I can try any. I'm hoping to graft Roberts Crab this coming spring. |
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| I have a Firecracker that I planted about 5 years ago. It has put out pretty, but small, fruit the last couple of years. So far however, it has very little taste. |
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| I grafted an Airlie's Red Flesh a couple years ago. |
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- Posted by eboone 6a - SW PA (My Page) on
Thu, Dec 18, 14 at 17:01
| I have a Hidden Rose apple, obtained from Southmeadow Fruitgarden a number of years ago. Unfortunately deer have liked this one in preference to my other fruit trees and browsed it incessantly until I fenced it off 2 years ago. I finally got a few apples off it the past 2 years which were small, with variagated red color flesh, green skin, tasted very sweet with a tart bite. |
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| Hello! I have 'Scarlet Surprise' (can't remember who I bought it from) and 'Arborose' from Arboreum. I should get at least a couple of Scarlet Surprise this year. Arborose is still too young. I also have a 'Motts Pink' which is also a fun apple to grow. It is tart but it is wonderful. Mrs. G |
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Clark,
20 years or so ago, I expressed an interest in the red-fleshed apples.
Ed Fackler cautioned me that most of them would be 'crap' here in my hot zone 6 setting. He was right; hopefully they'll do better for you. Almata has been the best for eating out-of-hand; actually fairly decent.
Pink Pearl was a fireblight magnet and never lived long enough to fruit.
Geneva & Giant Russian are big - and do make good jelly, but you wouldn't want to eat one. Winter Red Flesh (resembles Firecracker in many ways) is also pretty tannic, and mainly useful for jelly or adding color to applesauce. |
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| Mes111 & Steve357 Green mantle does seem to have the best selection. I'm rethinking firecracker kudzu9 after you mentioned it does not have a lot of taste. Windfall_rob I am intrigued by what I read about winekist and they seem to available from http://www.saltspringapplecompany.com/Winekist.htm. bob_z6 I have had the birds do it to me here. I cringe in the spring when I see a large flock of starlings looking to fatten up here. Quillfred / Eboone I think from a flavor perspective Airlie Red Flesh would be a winner aka Hidden Rose http://www.orangepippin.com/apples/airlie-red-flesh. Mrs G. I'm researching those varieties , Motts pink sounds interesting http://www.raintreenursery.com/Mott-s-Pink-Apple-M26.html. Lucky_p i'm already seeing a trend with problems with disease resistance. I might be able to grow a couple as a novelty but an orchard full does not seem possible. I'm interested in their antioxidant properties due to the red flesh. The way eboone described the deer reaction to them would imply they are healthier than the surrounding things to eat. |
Here is a link that might be useful: Green Mantle Red fleshed Apples
This post was edited by ClarkinKS on Fri, Dec 19, 14 at 7:15
RE: Who is growing red fleshed apples this year?
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| Clark, I would go to the Arboreum Nursery site and click on Arborose. I have hope for this one. I do believe my 'Scarlet Surprise' is from Greenmantle. I have since heard from planting it three years ago, that it is really more of a crab that is shaped like a red delicious. I hope this is not true. The Motts pink is a lovely apple with opalescent skin. You can see the 'hot pink' streaking underneath the yellow and green skin. Very beautiful. Mrs. G |
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| I read recently that the Czech Republic is a hotbed of red-fleshed apple research and that they are experiencing some good results. Guess my grandkids will taste some. Mike |
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| I have no red-fleshed apples because I have yet to hear of a really tasty one that is not hard to grow. Heres to hoping the Czech researchers come up with something! Scott |
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| Hidden Rose and Scarlet Surprise will be in the ground in the spring. Maybe a few grafts too. |
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| Agree,..nothing really good yet to eat but it will come. Redlove from Switzerland is now being grown in Washington State, see video replies. I asked Markus, [breeder] how does Redlove taste,.he didn't answer this question, then I mailed back saying, since I didn't get a reply on my question I suspect it taste a bit harsh. Then he replied saying...Some varieties tart, some sweeter.
In video, Markus is saying, the eating quality is stunning, the apple is sweet,...oh really? He just lied I think, good for sales, please notice, when he goes over to the other apples he spits it out!
But..I love it as a cider apple!
I grow Red Wonder |
Here is a link that might be useful: Redloves
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| Thanks Mrs G. those reds look promising. mes111 hopefully reds will come in the next couple of years and they will be on to blue fleshed apples by that time. Scott I'm beginning to wonder if you might be the wise one holding off. I figure I can top work it later if I need to.Valgor I will be interested to know how the flavor is for you. I will try and remember to post a follow up on taste myself when I decide which variety is going to work for me. Konrad I did see where he spit it out. I don't think red love is available here. |
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| So why would someone grow a red fleshed apple if it wasn't reputed to be an excellent eating apple? If this is for visuals maybe you should stick to crabs, which can be red fleshed and quite useful for culinary purposes. Novelty acts are a short lived amusement to me. |
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| Harvestman I'm thinking of growing them because of increased health benefits. |
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| >> maybe you should stick to crabs<< It's easier/faster to pick large red-flesh apples then little crabs. |
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| Ah, the flavonoids. Good point! I'm a boomer trying to get every possible edge as well. My retirement plan is to hold it off until I'm 80, unless I manage to die sooner. |
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Harvestman,
The attached link has an interesting article on crabapples. Red apples based on their pigment could have high anti carcinogenic properties as you mentioned such as flavonoids. This year I mixed my apple juice with aronia juice and could tell a significant difference in how it makes me feel. |
Here is a link that might be useful: Crabapple info
This post was edited by ClarkinKS on Mon, Dec 22, 14 at 4:31
RE: Who is growing red fleshed apples this year?
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| The color of foods does seem to be a good indicator of health content. |
Here is a link that might be useful: Red foods
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| This link further breaks down Anthocyanin's / flavonoids. |
Here is a link that might be useful: Anthocyanins
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| >>maybe you should stick to crabs<< Would you rather collect little apples to do chips?
I don't think your wife would. Actually, tart apples makes nice chips! |
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| Konrad those look fantastic! |
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| Konrad, I believe your point is valid. I like big blueberries for the same reason. Picking gets tiresome. I do know folks who don't mind picking their red-fleshed crabapples, however, and they are so fruitful that it really doesn't take much time to gather bushels. If you add them to sweet apples and make cider you get a very flavenoid rich concoction with much more distinctive flavor than straight sweet apples. Some crabs are also very high in vitamin C. Those slices look wonderful. |
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Exactly...that's why I grow both.
This red flesh crab tree is from my own seedling, I picked it almost clean, [some for wildlife] and used it for my brew/blend. Thank you all! |
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