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why do some callery pear trees have the small fruit and some dont

Posted by tlbean2004 none (tlbean2004@yahoo.com) on
Wed, Dec 31, 14 at 13:21

There are several callery pears in my town. I noticed that a lot of them have the small friuts, but the big one in front of my church does not have any friut?

what gives?


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RE: why do some callery pear trees have the small fruit and some

They are genetically different seedlings. Originally Bradford was the primary one grown and did not fruit because it did not have a pollinator. Over time varieties were introduced with better qualities such as aristocrat. When the two varieties crossed together the seedlings varied widely. This is one I found over the summer.


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RE: why do some callery pear trees have the small fruit and some

This is a typical Bradford / seedling that has been crossed with a pollinator


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If only Bradford's were grown they would never fruit.


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RE: why do some callery pear trees have the small fruit and some

I've seen some larger callery pears like in Clark's first photo, too. They couldn't be a cross with a regular (eating-type) Asian pear, could they? That may be unlikely (or impossible), but that's exactly what I'd imagine a cross would look like.


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Cousinfloyd I strongly suspect they did cross in that case with a larger pear. Specifically which pear they crossed with is anyone's guess. Over time I suspect we will see larger and more disease resistant varieties. They survive in the wild here in Fireblight country unscathed. They may at some point become the pear of tommorow as they evolve. For now most of us just graft these wild pests over to something edible. I graft them high because of their extreme disease tolerance. If Fireblight should injure my grafts I never lose the roots which are what take so long to grow.


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Some callery seedlings are so genetically different they don't graft well. My current plant is to use that larger callery as an interstem with those trees that won't graft and see how it goes. That's a different post I guess. These callery seedlings are apparently a real pain in other parts of the country. When I drove through Oklahoma I saw fields of them. I was surprised people didn't dig them up to make a new orchard on the cheap. In Kansas we see trees of callery from time to time but they are not invasive.


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So, if i plant a dwarf flowering pear, will it cross with my neighbors japanese pears and make large fruit?

This dwarf version is advertised to have 3/4 inch fruit on its own already....


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You might want to look at this article http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/gagarden/msg041309538748.html

A callery pear for example could be top grafted over to another variety of large pear which is what I would do. It is undesirable for them to make fruit aka produce seed because they are known to be invasive. They are very useful as a root stock in my location. Callery pears will pollinate many varieties of pears but I'm not sure if it will pollinate your neighbors. If It does act as a pollinator remember the neighbors tree only will get the larger fruit. Callery pear tree fruit will always be small . The next generation of callery seeds might make larger fruited unique varieties when the trees were grown from seed as shown in the picture above. Those trees in the above picture were not intentionally grown but rather grew by accident on a farm in my area. Some day work may be done to use callery to breed better pears. In the late 1800's the kieffer pear was grown from a cross between the sand pear and European pear so natural crosses do happen across species. Garber is another sand pear hybrid highly resistant to fire blight. Hybrid pears are fascinating because of their disease resistance.

This post was edited by ClarkinKS on Fri, Jan 2, 15 at 0:07


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RE: why do some callery pear trees have the small fruit and some

Calleries are indeed invasive. I'm in Cincinnati and we have terrible invasive bush honeysuckle around here that chokes out everything and makes pure stands. Then the pears come in and are actually able to out compete the bush honeysuckle and make pure stands of the most thorn ridden, impenetrable thickets this side of maleficent's castle. If you haven't seen callery thorns, they are much like honeylocust's. You drive our roadways in the spring, it looks beautiful with the flowering hillsides, but roll your window up, whew!.


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RE: why do some callery pear trees have the small fruit and some

  • Posted by bboy USDA 8 Sunset 5 WA (My Page) on
    Fri, Jan 2, 15 at 12:51

To get larger fruit due to crossing of existing Callery pears with other species you would have to grow on the resulting hybrid seedlings to fruiting size - the existing parent trees will not make larger fruits themselves merely because they have been fertilized by Asian or orchard pears.

The normal size range of Callery pear fruit is 1/2-5/8 in. Individuals with significantly larger fruit will then presumably be hybrids (if such crosses occur with any frequency), mutations or other variants with quite different fruits (if Callery pear ever does this), or completely different kinds of pear that are growing among Callery pears.

This post was edited by bboy on Fri, Jan 2, 15 at 13:10


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