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Posted by brendan_of_bonsai 4b AK (My Page) on Sun, Jan 10, 10 at 6:44
 Just like Zicam is not a homeopathic remedy much of the herbal spam here has never seen chlorophyll.
Herbal ≠ Alternative Medicine
On an unrelated note, how about a big welcome back to Oakleif, from whom we have not heard in quite some time. Welcome back :) |
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RE: Origin of some of the less reputable 'Herbal' spam shown here
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| On a more related note, brendan, did you hear that Tim Minchin's beat poem "Storm" is being made into an animated film? Here's the movie trailer. |
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| I found out from Tracy King, who is putting it together for Mr. Minchin. I was rather excited to watch the trailer, it looks like it is very well done. |
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| Eric is your email address valid? I've tried a few times to get a hold of you and not gotten a reply. |
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Thank you Brandon, For the sweet welcome. I really missed your posts. Never fear, I am a reformed carecter. Still can't get my spelling right. LOL
Still all for herbalists. But can overlook those that disgree with me.Most important I'm still alive. Was doubtful for awhile.
How are you Brendon? Still a student? or working in research? Biology of some kind?
I'm taking valerian for sometime now. Also vitamin D for SAD Have'nt been bothered by depression much at all this year, First time in years. This does'nt work for everyone but it sure has for me this year. Also take Hawthorne berries for high blood pressure.2 weeks ago my BP was 130/80. Had'nt been that in years. I learned about hawthorne berries here BTW. Am still learning about herbs. A fascinating subject. It has such a long history.
I fell and broke my wrist in November. It is slow in healing. Wonder what i could take to help the healing process. Doctor says it just takes time. Being 70 yrs old this year. Wonder how much time it takes.LOL
Everyone have a great day and LMK about speeding up the bone recovery.
Vickie
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RE: Origin of some of the less reputable 'Herbal' spam shown here
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| If you switch to firefox or google chrome they both have spell check integrated into them, internet explorer also has an extension that contains a spell check. That is literally the only reason that I tend to spell well here. I'm sorry to hear that you broke your arm, slip and fall? Staying active is vitally important to maintaining bone density, as bone is stressed a piezoelectric effect is seen, this in turn stimulates the Osteoblasts on the surface of the bone to lay down calcium, with out the signal the bone is simply winnowed away and the calcium flushed from the system in the usual way. Calcium is available from many plant sources including Collard greens, kale, Tempeh, and Okra, also from black strap molasses (which is delicious). Vitamin D can largely be obtained by spending more time out in the sun. It would seem that a goodly amount of time working vigorously in the garden is the answer to helping build strong healthy bones. Convenience and fun, gardening has it all. Glad to see that you are in good spirits about it Vickie. Take care,
Brendan |
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| I sympathize with you, oakleif, I fell and broke a rib in November. It took longer than I hoped to stop hurting and mend, then the more things I try to do, I start getting a pulling sensation again in the bone. And a tingling sensation near my spine on the opposite side. Rather worrisome. I have been getting out cutting off blackberry vines and pruning grapes. Initially after injuring the rib I seemed to make it worse by continuing to pick things up off the floor and trying to work, so I hope the activity is not making it worse again, but Brendan's post is encouraging towards keeping the bone laying down calcium. I take more MSM in hopes of healing it faster, and I put inrared heat on it with a ceramic infrared heat emitter. I healed a bad neck condition just using the infrared lamp for a couple of hours once. A couple of years ago, I injured ligaments in my knee, and couldn't get it to heal for 9 months until I went on the vegetarian Budwig diet, when it started getting stronger. Someone encouraged me to take even up to a tablespoon or two of MSM also. I also tried Dr. Christopher's formula Bone, Flesh and Cartilage. I hope at least to be fully recovered by growing season so I can get all my gardening work done. Another thing I have used for bone and cartilage problems is a neodymium gold-coated magnet. I do a lot of weeding by cutting plants off with a serrated knife, which is hard on my hands, and last year I had a small projection from a joint of my index finger, and pain, and put an LED light on it for awhile then slept with a magnet on it overnight, for a couple of nights, after which it was completely healed. |
Here is a link that might be useful: ceramic infrared heat emitter
RE: Origin of some of the less reputable 'Herbal' spam shown here
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| How long do you think it would have taken you to heal with out those steps? |
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| I wasn't clear in my second paragraph- the injury I hope recovers soon is the rib. The knee for the first 9 months would seem to be getting better then I would pull on a garden hose or dance too much (I was dancing twice a week before injuring my knee- I was doing much more than the usual amount of hopping when the injury occurred) and I would start limping again. After I became a vegetarian and starting taking more MSM and the BF&C, my knee started getting markedly stronger and 2 years later I hardly even notice any sensations to indicate I had been injured. I do not jump or hop on the injured knee any more, though, and am generally protective of it. So perhaps I would not have recovered at all without doing those other things. Not having any comparison, it would be pure speculation. I likewise don't know how my rib would be doing without the things I am doing for it, not having had that kind of injury before. The internet sites I looked at stated a time period of 3-4 weeks to heal a broken rib. I felt a lot better at 4 weeks, just a slight pulling sensation, but found dancing then for the first time since the injury a little stressful mentally, I did much better at 6 weeks. |
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Thanks Brandon and hemnancy, My problem is mainly old and well used bones.LOL Healing slows down after so many years. This is the first broken bone for me and the last i hope.
I get my infrared light from the sun. I keep my arm in the sun at a window or outside. Now i know why i've always seen older people injoy the warm sun so much. It does feel good. Later the sunlight will be too strong and hot during most of the day.
Most of my gardening days are over as i have breathing and heart problems but i still putter around with container gardening.(flowers and herbs)
I know a broken rib hurts like mad. Do take care of it so it can heal properly.It sure is hard sometimes when you know something needs to be done tho.
I have blackberry and muskadine vines that need cutting. If i can't do it they will simply go wild.I can handle strawberrys and have started growing them and letting the birds and bears have the blackberrys. I'm going to pick the young leaves of blackberrys and use for tea. My DR told me vitamin D is good. I drink loads of milk and love those leafy greens.
Vickie |
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| Vickie- I hope your wrist is doing better. My rib is doing much better, hardly ever giving that pulling feeling. I keep cutting blackberry vines but switched to just a hand pruner which isn't heavy like the lopper, that seemed to help a lot. I still try to shine the Infrared lamp on my back when sitting at the computer. Johanna Budwig has sunning daily as part of her protocol, and says window glass removes part of the healing frequencies, so she encourages being outdoors or sunning through only a screen, and not wearing glasses so the good light rays can enter the eyes as well (which does not mean to look at the sun itself, which would be harmful). My MIL is now 98 and sits in the sun every day. I'm outdoors for 4-6 or more hours a day during the gardening season but tend to try to work in shade if I can. Wow, gardening with bears, I can't imagine that. Do they come around in the daytime? |
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| Eye protection is important if you're going to be getting a lot of sun. Sun exposure is linked to development of cataracts and melanoma involving the eye, and is a possible risk factor for macular degeneration as well. Not sure what this has to do with herbal spam, but it's an important topic in its own right. |
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| Our sleep cycles, our hormones, our vitamin D levels, are benefited by moderate sun exposure. I personally avoid the middle of the day to be outside, working mainly in the afternoon and evening. But there is a minimum level of sun exposure everyone should seek. From article below- "Coinciding with the first week of summer, a study published today underscores the importance of getting adequate amounts of sunlight for its vitamin D-boosting benefits. The research, published in the Archives of Internal Medicine, shows that those with the lowest vitamin D levels have more than double the risk of dying from heart disease and other causes over an eight-year period compared with those with the highest vitamin D levels. The researchers cite "decreased outdoor activity" as one reason that people may become deficient in vitamin D. Another recent study found an increased risk of heart attacks in those with low vitamin D levels. The sunshine vitamin may protect against a host of diseases, including osteoporosis, heart disease, and cancers of the breast, prostate, and colon. What's more, sunlight has other hidden benefits—like protecting against depression, insomnia, and an overactive immune system. Given all the upsides of basking at least briefly in the summer sun, many experts now worry that public-health messages warning about skin cancer have gone overboard in getting people to cover up and seek the shade." |
Here is a link that might be useful: how much sun
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