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Tarragon for Benign Prostate Hypertrophy (BPH)
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Posted by davidinfl (My Page) on Mon, Mar 19, 07 at 11:10
| My recent blood analyses have consistently shown a slightly elevated bilirubin which my doctor says is due to Gilberts syndrome. One of the herbs suggested for the processing and elimination of this substance from the blood is the herb tarragon.
I bought some tarragon and began to drink one or two cups a day of an infusion of 1 heaping teaspoon of tarragon in an 11-oz. cup of hot water steeped for 10 or 15 minutes. I haven't had another blood analysis to see what my bilirubin level is, but I have noticed another effect.
Before beginning the tarragon I was having to get up 3 or four times a night to urinate (I'm 62 years old). I have been taking saw palmetto for this for years, but I find it helps little. Upon beginning to drink the tarragon tea, I found that I did not need to get up as often at night. And most recently, I need to arise only once during the entire night. I am elated with this since it helps me get a better night's sleep so I awake more rested in the morning.
I find no other reference to this effect of tarragon either in books or on the Web. So I am wondering if it is an effect that may be repeatable in others. When I began drinking the tarragon tea, it replaced green tea I used to drink at a rate of about two cups a day. It might be possible that extra caffein from the tea was affecting my prostate. I would be interested to know if others who drink tarragon tea experience a similar alleviation of BPH symptoms. |
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RE: Tarragon for Benign Prostate Hypertrophy (BPH)
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| That's a great side effect! My Rodale's Encyclopedia of Herbs doesn't explain your result, but it mentions tarragon as having some desensitising and antifungal properties, as well as antioxidants. A green tea regimen ought to have had plenty of the latter, though. Aren't there different types of antioxidants; could that have something to do with it? Sorry, I'm reaching a bit, but your post was interesting. |
RE: Tarragon for Benign Prostate Hypertrophy (BPH)
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| Caffeine reduction is recommended in people with overactive bladders. So maybe your replacing the green tea with tarragon tea did have a beneficial effect on urinary frequency for that reason. |
RE: Tarragon for Benign Prostate Hypertrophy (BPH)
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| Thanks for the feedback. I got the idea of using tarragon tea for metabolizing bilirubin from articles on the use of a Chinese herbal tea containing an artemisia species for treating jaundice in newborns (http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=300765). Although tarragon isn't exactly the same plant, I thought it was worth a try. Because I reduced my caffeine when I began the tarragon tea, I did think, as Eric, that my not having to get up as often at night might be from that reduction. But I also remember that it was on the first or second night I took the tarragon tea that I first noticed the reduction in the urge to get up to urinate. I hope someone who has a similar problem tries tarragon tea, I am really interested to know if this is repeatable. |
RE: Tarragon for Benign Prostate Hypertrophy (BPH)
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| This worries me - while you might be helping yourself not to get up at night so much, is your prostatism itself any better, worse or are you just 'masking' the problem by treating symptoms rather than the cause, and could you be postponing a potentially very serious situation that should be treated, but because symptoms are gone, is now quietly getting worse? I would check with your MD every so often, not about the tarragon, but to be sure your prostate is not growing or changing. |
RE: Tarragon for Benign Prostate Hypertrophy (BPH)
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| Well, by definition his prostatism is better (for whatever reason) because the symptoms are not as pronounced. What lucy is probably getting at is the need to have serum PSA levels checked as recommended, to help make sure the prostatic enlargement has a benign cause. One thing I wondered about - were you looking for herbs for Gilbert's syndrome in the first place because of obvious jaundice? (Gilbert's is a benign condition that can cause mild jaundice because of elevated bilirubin levels, but doesn't require treatment. Most people who have it find out accidentally when a blood test shows high bilirubin). |
RE: Tarragon for Benign Prostate Hypertrophy (BPH)
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| That's a good point, Lucy. I do have my Prostate Specific Antigen (PSA) level tested regularly, about once a year. So far it comes in about 1 which is comforting. I can't be sure, of course, that my nocturia have to do with the prostate, but that seems to be what my doctor assumes. My bilirubin levels are not very much elevated --just 1.3 mg/dL with the maximum recommended being 1.2 mg/dL. The alkaline phosphatase is also low at 72 IU/L whereas my test results sheet indicates it should be at least 150. The first time I had a blood test that checked for bilirubin with my present doctor, I was just coming off a 36-hour fast; they called me and seemed concerned. My bilirubin level was really high. But when I told them how long I'd been fasting before they drew my blood, they weren't as concerned and just said I should come in again to have blood drawn after an eight-hour fast. Apparently, fasting intensifies the effect of this syndrome. |
RE: Tarragon for Benign Prostate Hypertrophy (BPH)
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| Eric, his prostatism per se may not actually be better - he may just have found a way to slow down (or dry out) urine production with the tarragon, but that doesn't mean his prostate has shrunk or even that his kidneys like the new 'med' (a long term check could be more telling). PSA's are important, but not the only thing to keep in mind, but you're smart to bring it up. |
RE: Tarragon for Benign Prostate Hypertrophy (BPH)
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| Just so there isn't confusion: prostatism means symptoms related to prostate problems. From an an online definition of prostatism: "A disorder characterized by decreased force of urination and dysuria, usually resulting from enlargement of the prostate gland." You're right - in that relief of symptoms doesn't necessarily result from a shrinkage of prostate tissue. There's a number of reasons including inflammation/infection of the prostate that could account for urinary problems, and symptom relief doesn't guarantee a benign cause for the underlying condition. Example: I just diagnosed carcinoma of the prostate in tissue removed for obstructive symptoms (transurethral resection of the prostate, or TURP). There's no indication a malignancy was suspected before the operation based on PSA or other evaluation. |
RE: Tarragon for Benign Prostate Hypertrophy (BPH)
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| Lucy and Eric, let me provide some more information so that you won't have to base your conversation about my condition and apparent recovery on pure surmise. One of the symptoms I had before beginning the tarragon tea was a decreased, and sometimes interrupted, stream of urine. Since I began the tea the stream has noticeably strengthened with interruption only toward the end of my unrination --practically as it had been before the onset of my symptoms about 7 or 8 years ago. I'm not an MD, but it seems logical to me that if the tarragon tea were causing me to retain, rather than pass, water, I would have gained weight, which I have not. About whether my "kidneys like the new 'med'," good luck at getting money for a large-scale study of any herbal medicine. But if you're talking about simply following my progress, I get blood work done about once a year, and I plan to keep using tarragon, so my own kidneys' verdict should be in about February of next year. Thanks Eric, for being concerned that the symptoms which have been mainly alleviated by the tarragon tea might possibly be due to other causes. On the basis of the long duration of the symptoms without any indication of anything more serious than prostatism I've decided not to seek radical treatments. I usually take my doctor's advice on health matters, but if I disagreed with him I would not hesitate to get a second opinion. |
RE: Tarragon for Benign Prostate Hypertrophy (BPH)
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| Regarding studies of herbal medicines and other alternative therapies, there are many that have taken place or are ongoing. Here's a listing on the website of the National Center for Complementary and Alternative Medicine (under the auspices of the National Institutes of Health). I didn't see anything mentioned regarding tarragon tea and the prostate, so quite possibly there have not been enough anecdotal reports to stimulate interest in a clinical trial. |
RE: Tarragon for Benign Prostate Hypertrophy (BPH)
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| It's almost as hard to be a man these days as it is to be a woman! I wonder if we weren't all better off living to age 40 and being done with it, long ago! |
RE: Tarragon for Benign Prostate Hypertrophy (BPH)
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| That's an interesting list of studies you included as a link in your last post, Eric. It's good to see the Government getting interested in testing some of the herbs and vitamins most commonly used to treat or prevent ailments. The World Health Orginization has also put out a couple of volumes on herbs. Most of the studies they cite seem to be from overseas (v. 1; v. 2). The WHO books don't mention tarragon, either. We are living longer, aren't we, with the concomitant health problems that flesh is heir to. I try to remain hopeful, though, and also try to base my hope on things that transcend this life. Traditional wisdom says we shouldn't put all our eggs into one basket. |
RE: Tarragon for Benign Prostate Hypertrophy (BPH)
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Which Tarragon (tea)is Best.?(Russian, Armenian, Mexican...)where did you get it.? Tnx R0ss / Chicago |
RE: Tarragon for Benign Prostate Hypertrophy (BPH)
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| Why is my e-mail showing on my 1rst post..? tnx R0ss |
RE: Tarragon for Benign Prostate Hypertrophy (BPH)
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| Hi Ross, I hadn't seen your post until I just now visited the page again. The tarragon I used is the generic kind you can buy in the supermarket (what I bought was of the trademark Badia). I think it is the French variety, although I couldn't guarantee that. I continue to take the tea from time to time whenever I begin to be bothered by nocturia. |
RE: Tarragon for Benign Prostate Hypertrophy (BPH)
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| I have been using Tarragon to reduce the symptoms of BPH for years now. I found it by accident after having a tarragon chicken salad one day and noticing later that it was easier to urinate. after several of these coincidences I began using it regularly on eggs and salads with continued relief of the BPH symptoms. Does anyone know what chemical in the tarragon might be responsible for the relief. It doesn't have any of the side effects associated with Flomax or other BP.H drugs |
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