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poison ivy!!!!

Posted by Morningglorygal Z6--KY (My Page) on
Thu, May 30, 02 at 9:05

Hi everyone, I helped my sister (who doesn't enjoy gardening) finally clean up her over grown jungle, I mean backyard. Needless to say, I now have poison ivy for the first time in my life, and I am itching. I've tried calamine lotion, and benedryl and nothing. Any suggestion to help ease the itch. Thanks


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Look for some dock leaves (usually near stinging nettle) or impatiens leaves, crush them and rub them gently on the itchy bits. Elderberry juice is also effective. Try Aloe Vera gel - straight from the leaves if possible, and slather it on.


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Salt water make it VERY salty and leave it dry on . It burns at first, but will dry it up. Aloe helps too.


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This year I have had great success taking a prescription antihistamine called Respahist. One pill and the itching stops. The blisters have dried up and gone away in no time.

Aloe Vera was soothing until the pill kicked in.


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Supposedly works on poison oak so probably will on poison ivy too. Shaklee's Basic H. Just slather it on full strength. Drys it up. Had a neighbor that tried everything for poison oak, including Dr.'s prescriptions. Nothing worked. Someone told her about Basic H and it worked.

I am not affiliated with Shaklee products in any way.


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I hope your poison ivy has cleared up by now but for future reference Jewel Weed -Impatiens capensis is the answer to any poison ivy sufferer's prayers! There is a component of the plant that actually breaks the bond the oil of poison ivy makes with your skin. Burt's Bees make a poison ivy soap that includes jewel weed extract. I've found that if I shower within 20 minutes of exposure I don't get any symptoms. If I miss the 20 minute window, the symptoms are much less and can easily be treated with calamine. I'll be trying to make my own extract this summer. I am in no way affilated with Burt's Bees.

Here is a link that might be useful: Jewel Weed


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itchy

I was wondering earlier if there were any products containing jewelweed, and POOF, there's my answer! I am an absolute believer in jewelweed...but it doesn't show up here until later in the season. Whatever you do, don't let the dr give ya steriods.. I'd rather itch! I've heard that an oatmeal bath is helpful...AAKKK...itching too much..can't type!


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For future reference (I HOPE yours has cleared up by now!!!!!)...the local herbalist recommended soaking in a bath of dead sea salts...will be trying it later tonight...


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Shanti21,
I was wondering about the steroids. My poison ivy the doctor said was systemic, my lymph nodes where swollen, my hands and feet were about 4 times their regular size, I couldn't walk for 3 days. I tried some type of spray from a health store that contained jewelweed, it help a little but not much, didn't know if it was because my went to my blood system. Anywho, this was the first time I have ever had it, and I pray I never get it again, two weeks and I'm still itching, and I just yesterday was able to get out of bed. Hope you feel better soon.... and thanks ever one for your responses.


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Poor baby!! OOOOOO....Mine doesn't seem as bad all of a sudden...I'm not sure if I'd turn down the steroids in your position...The time I took them the doctor was over-reacting and I stupidly took the first pill and was stuck continuing...Couldn't sleep, felt horrible! In my case the cure was way worse than the problem! Jewelweed is an excellent preventitive if you use it soon after exposure, but only of minimal help once you're infected...I'm glad I found out about the soap for times the plant isn't availble! I've heard of a product called IVY BLOCK...think I'm going to try it. I hope you're better!!!!


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A decoction made from root of Saponaria officinalis (soapwort/ bouncing bet) applied to rash and allowed to air dry helps relieve itching and promotes healing.


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An older German Doctor once told me that you would never get poison ivy if you drank Sumac Tea. He said to take the red Sumac blossoms and run hot water over them to get rid of any insects hiding in them. Then soak the blooms in hot water. I'm not sure of the proportions but he said it resembled lemonade in taste. Began drinking the tea every week or so beginning in March of each year. Also, for the itch of Poison Ivy use
Arid Extra-dry dedorant as a spray and it will stop the itch. My Hubby gets Poison ivy just thinking about it and uses several cans of the Arid Extra-dry every summer. I never remember to gather any Sumac to make the tea for him! Got to put that on my TO DO list!!! Soaking the blooms in salt water should also remove any aliens.


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My old long gone Indian granny to the best of my memory ,used to have us ingest a small amount of the poison ivy in the earily spring ,but as I said to the best of my vague memory . After numerous small cases each year ,very mild ,but none the less arrovating ,I have been sorely tempted to try this ,but just afraid to get poison ivy of the insides.,so so far I have refrained myself .Now my question is does anyone out recall simular memorys.,and if so could you kindly relate them.


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Hey Nancy, I have heard of that bt it is because it is the theory behind allergy shots and homeopathic remedies. The theory is that if you ingest small quantities of the thing you are allergic to over time you develop immunities to it. Think about the smallpox vaccine or polio and the others, that is wha they do. Very interesting and very true. Good luck kathy


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Clay may help to draw out poison and sooth itching skin as well as create a seccond skin protecting the affected area.
I read that an infusion of artemesia, cooled to room temperature, can be used effectivly as first aid for oily poisons such as this.


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The best thing I have ever found for poison ivy is the homeopathic remedy; Rhus Tox (any potency). It works for many rashes and not just poison ivy. B.


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Well, I have friends who swear by Plantain....it sure works for me! on any itching!
xoxorobyn


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For two years I kept getting poison ivy when my husband did and both years his went right away. The first year I bought everything over the counter I could get my hands on and nothing worked and the oatmeal baths seemed to spread it more. Finally I had to go get shots. The second year I ran out of my bath soap and used his dial (the gold bar). It took care of my poison ivy without putting anything else on it. It is hard to believe that is all I had to do and have never heard anyone mention it before. Hope this helps someone out there. I had it so bad I couldn't even sleep. Debbie


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I also swear by plantain - it has a very short season around here though. elder leaves work well also. barb


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JEWEL WEED!!!!! I'm extremely allergic, and usually get complicated syx, but since using jewel weed, I'm virtually syx free. If I wash with the soap as soon as I come in from the yard, I generally can avoid a problem. If miss something, I apply the soap, and leave it on all night, and that almost always arrests it. There's also a spray and a balm. What a miraculous herb!!! gw


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Jewelweed is the natural antidote to poison ivy and usually grows near the poison ivy. Last summer my daughter had poison ivy. I looked frantically for Jewelweed andone day walking down the road I found it growing right behind a nice bunch of poison ivy. Good joke on Nature's part. Since I do not get poison Ivy I walked over to it and picked a bunch of the flowers and leaves. At home I made a tincture with it and applied it to her. Poison Ivy was gone in two days and the itching immediately subsided.


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Found this thread looking up "itch of poison ivy" online. Why??? I have it too! In places that weren't even exposed to the air! Gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaak! I don't know how to find Jewelweed but I will pay one million dollars to the first person who FedXs some leaves my way!

Nym

PS...Only kidding about the million dollars. Sigh. Don't have that much money but I can send plenty of empathy out to my fellow sufferers.


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  • Posted by binki z6 NJ, USA (My Page) on
    Wed, Jul 23, 03 at 16:22

One thing that helps in the short term is really hot water. Turn the faucet on hot, put your affected area under it, and let the water get hotter, hotter, hotter, until it's pretty much scalding and you can't stand it.

This stops the itching for me fast, then I put Benadryl cream or suchlike on it.


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If the poisons are not drawn out of the skin, the blisters can recur in succeeding years even if you just walk past poison ivy. If you draw out of the poisons immediately after exposure to them, the rash clears up withing hours never to reappear. The longer you wait with the treatment, the longer the cure takes.

I know the original cure used by the natives of Manitoba. It is the most easily found clay taken directly from any subsoil. I can send the directions out on request. This cure works on any poison as well as on infections and burns.

This is a secret remedies used only by medicine men, and I consider myself very fortunate to have learned about it. None of my native friends in Manitoba knew about it until I told them. Mind you, most of them are immune to poison ivy and can walk in it barefoot all day long.


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Trust me on this one, aloe vera gel! I tried it one day in desperation when nothing else was working (prescription, over the counter and home-made remedies). It worked miracles. Best of all, you can apply it as often as needed, it doesn't leave you greasy or "pink" and is great for your skin. Try it, you'll be amazed.


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hi people,

so it was the hot water that stopped my itching, I thought it was the baking soda I put in the water....I tried everything, I could get my hands on...at home....Then a friend told me about Ivarest, it is made by blistex, and as he does highway work, and gets into eveything, and is allergic to everything, he said that was the only thing that helped him....Also said it might be hard to find, and after looking in several Walmarts, I finaly manged to find 1 box of it left....By then my itching was on the way out, so I haven't used it....But I've got it for the next time..

But hopefully this will help someone else...as I have not seen it mentioned by anyone else....

And no I'm not asociated with Blistex or any other company....


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Hi
I don't visit this forum often but I'm sliding through here today. I am a die hard easy target for poison ivy. I get it just be being in the area when it pollinates. We live in the woods surrounded by government property. That means I can never erradicate it or even come close to controling it.

I get systemic reactions as it sounds that you have. Once I come in contact, I'm doomed. No immediate wash with anythign will help. It gets into my system and errupts anywhere I have items that rub or areas that are very warm (i.e. wrist watch band, waist bands of clothing, shoes/socks ...).

I have suffered this since childhood. I'm now 45. Since my teens the doctors have suggested alergy shots because me reaction is so severe and treatment is all but non effective. This year I finally remembered early enough in the season to start them and then the manufacturer stopped making them after the second of a three shot series.

My point is that, unfortunately, steroids is my only relief/cure option. I did not have this treatment until about 10 years ago. When they administered it I scoffed. Absolutely NOTHING had ever worked before. I would suffer for weeks, months, entire seasons with it. Within a few days I found relief that normally would have never come.

I have since changed doctors a couple of times. It is very difficult for me to get a doctor to prescribe the steroids for me, especially in the high dose required for me. They don't like to do it. I have to suffer through the 'preferred method ot treatment' thing first. The only relief I get is from the Prednisone. I fortuantely do not suffer any side effects and I have to take it a high concentrations. My body is very tolerant of most chemicals and low doses don't work either. You do have to follow the prescribed directions carefully. You cannot just stop taking this medication abruptly. I have never had a problem.

I do stay away from any un-mowed areas or areas that I'm not familiar with. I do not sit on the lawn. I got it that way once. The lawn was freshly mowed and I'm guessing the blades carried the oil across the yard. I stay out of the woods except where there is a open area to view. One of the worst cases I got was carrying in firewood one winter when I was about 12. Apparently there had been poisen ivy on the tree previously and I got it. Yeah, poisen ivy in the dead of winter. What fun. All those heavy warm clothes to wear here in Zone 5 Ohio.

I still get it occassionally. Even with all the care I take. But after all those years of suffering and pain, I know there is relief. Poison ivy can be very dangerous if it is severe. I would not toy around with treatment if you have severe reactions. I don't like drugs of any kind but I don't fool with this. I'm told that the body gets weaker in it's attempts to fight of allergens as we get older. That makes me all the more careful in my treatment and avoidance of Poison Ivy.

Sorry folks. Sometimes we just HAVE to turn to modern medicine when other things don't work. Trust me, over the last 30 years, I have tried them ALL. I for one will not risk my health and well being to remain vigil in the use of herbal only remedies. I use them when I can. I too prefer them. Sometimes we just don't get what we want. Or ... we get things we don't want.

:)

Stardust


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I was just wondering if anyone knows how to get rid of Poison Ivy in the yard???I just moved into a house and there is poison ivy along the fence.I need to find a way to get rid of it since I am allergic to it.

Karen


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Goats are safe to eat it. It does not bother them for some reason?!

Impatiens that have been previously mention, can be picked and thrown throught the blender and frozen on ice cube trays to keep year round when the plant is not available.
(just remember is it is for external use!):)

Cheers GGGG


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it may be called poison ivy, but what is this about drawing out the poison. i understand the chemical, urushiol, in the plant BONDS with the proteins in your skin. then, the reaction occurs. then, the oils of the plant get washed away, but the reaction has already begun, like a cancer if i may say so myself.


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Wiping skin *gently* with an alcohol-drenched cloth at the end of a work day is the best way to avoid a poison oak (or poison ivy) reaction. Standard rubbing alcohol -- the 70 percent stuff that's about 50 cents a bottle.

I got a mild case of poison oak in early June on my upper arm while wearing a long-sleeved shirt. (Apparently, long sleeves don't help much in the summer because urushiol, the allergenic oil, can wick through sweaty clothing.) I didn't get any poison oak on my wrists, which were exposed between gloves and sleeve, because I swabbed them with alcohol after I finished working. And when I got home I took a shower and washed my clothes. When the rash appeared, I found that ice stopped the itching for hours. I wrapped an ice cube in a paper towel and held it against the rash for 10 or 20 seconds or so at a time, then away for a few minutes, etc., until the ice melted.

That's my experience. Here's what the experts say:

I have a wonderful little book, _Nature's Revenge: The secrets of poison ivy, poison oak, poison sumac, and their remedies_, by Susan Carol Hauser (NY: Lyons & Bedford, 1996, 111 p.), vetted by a dermatology professor and expert on poison oak/ivy in the foreword (Wm. Epstein, MD).

According to the book, urushiol begins to bond with the skin within 5 to 10 minutes after contact, but gently wiping the skin with a cloth drenched in rubbing alcohol can leach the urushiol out of the skin for up to 4 to 6 hours after contact. Copious amounts of water are also recommended, to dilute the oil; but normal amounts of water, packaged alcohol wipes, or soap (if used without lots of water) can spread the oil. Hot water can remove more oil than cold water, but is not recommended because it opens the pores more, making the skin more vulnerable to urushiol.

Once a rash appears, the urushiol is gone. It has been chemically changed and therefore cannot be removed (or spread). The rash is your immune system's reaction. If the rash covers large areas of skin, or is on the face or genitals, or causes unbearable itching, medical treatment with corticosteroids interrupts the allergic process. In milder cases, gentle home remedies for itching include calamine lotion (not caladryl), colloidal oatmeal, cool or tepid compresses of plain water or Burow's solution. Hot water releases histamines and relieves itching, but is harder on the skin. Scratching the rash can cause an "after-dermatitis itch" that can last for weeks or months.

My cousin on the east coast has used epsom salts to relieve the itching of poison ivy for hours. (The paste is 1 tsp of water to 3 tsp of epsom salts--baking soda and oatmeal also work.) She has also used the homeopathic remedy Rhus tox.


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How to remove Poison Ivy from your skin!
The irritant in poison ivy is urushoil. It is a sticky oil.
If you come into contact with it, it will cause problems until it is removed from your skin and anything that comes in contact with your skin. There are several products sold just for this.

I'm very allergic to urushoil and have tried many. The best and most readily available is the same soap that your mechanic uses to remove motor oil from their hands.
Because urushoil is a sticky oil it does require a little more scrubbing but it works 100%.

Directions for removal:

1.Apply the [mechanics] soap dry (DO NOT ADD WATER) to the affected area.

2. Scrub for 2 minutes.

3. Wash off completely with COLD water. If you use hot water, then you may be in for an unpleasant surprise!

Note: The residue soap will now contain the urushoil, and when the residue drys it may become sticky oil again.

4. All itchiness should be gone. If not repeat the process.


I like Lava and JoJo brands the best. The grittier the better.

Walmart, KMart, Your local auto parts store will all carry this soap. I usually buy the 16 oz squeeze bottles for around ~$2.

This soap also gets the urushiol and many stains out of clothes. Just be sure to hose the residue off the clothes before adding them to your laundry.


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I recently cleared all the weeds in my back yard and ofcourse some of it was poison ivy. now i'm afraid of going back there after all the itching that I had. Can any one tell me the difference between poison ivy and english ivy? can poison ivy climb a tree 15 or 20ft in heigh? yes I heard about the three leaves and this one has it, so is it poison ivy?


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Plantain!!!!!
I don't get poison ivy but I sure do get bit by everything under the sun whenever I step out by back door. I live in the tropics so we have BIG bugs.

I just tear off a leaf from my plantain and mush it up and apply to the bite. It works instantly to relieve the itching but sorry to say it doesn't draw out the poison. The lump will still be there just won't bother you as much.

Hope this helps.

J


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This would be more on the preventative side of the topic... but there is a product that I use called Gardener's armor. It's a lotion that you just rub on your exposed skin before you go into the danger zone and it keeps the oils from coming into contact with your body. It's worked perfectly for me thus far.

Lew

Here is a link that might be useful: Gardener's Armor


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here is some helfpul info on poison ivy...

Here is a link that might be useful: Natural cures and remedies for poison oak or poison ivy rashes


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