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do you think it is o.k to take valerian root everyday?

Posted by lillyflower (My Page) on
Sat, Jul 3, 04 at 20:39

I sometimes take only one valerian root a day.
But unusally not. Is it o.k to take one a day????

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RE: do you think it is o.k to take valerian root everyday?

Hi Lillyflower.

I just want to confirm your question. Are you saying that you take one valerian root everyday (most days)? And you want to know if that is a safe practice?

Do you grow the valerian yourself, or do you buy the root at a healthstore etc? The reason for this question is that there are 2 main types of valerian used for therapeutic vale; Mexican valerian (Valeriana edulis), and Valerian (Valeriana officinalis). The 2 share most actives in differring proportions, but have one key therapeutic difference which i won't go into right now. In terms of weight, approx how much DRY (or approx. equivalent) root do you take everyday? And do you know which one it is? Did anyone prescribe this to you, or are you self treating?

And most importantly, why are taking valerian root everyday? Sleep? Nerves? Anxiety? I know i ask alot of questions, but by asking these questions I answer more of your unasked questions, such as..Is this the best herb for what I suffer?

There is much misinformation about Valerian. Valerian is a well studied herb, there have been many randomized, double blind, placebo controlled trials involving it, particularly for sleep disorders. It is not addictive. There are no known precautions or warnings for herbalists to heed when prescribing valerian. Valerian may attenuate benzodiazepine withdrawal symptoms , based on animal models, but no evidence exists of this in human cases.

Valerian is safe to take everyday, but no herb should be taken indefinately without medical advice. Safety is only guaranteed within a certain dosage range, and this is where you self treating with herbal root you grow MAY be dangerous. Liver, kidney, and GIT damage may result, particularly with long term use.My advice would be to see a herbalist or naturopath personally for your health problem and get the advice and proper medical service and prescription you deserve.

John


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Here is the information I have about valerian and its long-term or excessive use. I would stress that it is a herb which should be taken under professional supervision.

Unpleasant side-effects (headaches, muscular spasms, and palpitations) can occur with long-term use or with excessive doses. In extreme cases, it has been known to cause coma or even death. Poisoning may result if large amount of the tea are taken for more than 2 to 3 weeks. Do not boil the root. Consuming large amounts of valerian may cause headache, giddiness, blurred vision, restlessness, nausea. Seek expert advice before using, and use ONLY under expert supervision.


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RE: do you think it is o.k to take valerian root everyday?

From Portaljuice.com:

About 10% of the population cannot take full-strength valerian; they get headaches and feel groggy in the morning, after taking the tea as a sleep aid in the evening. They might benefit from lower doses. Mid- to long-term use of this plant (~ 2 weeks) might result in emotional upsets. Bouts of hysterical laughter, deep sadness, or rage, without any seeming cause, are symptoms.

I only use it in rare occasions of sleeplessness. My husband tried it a few times, but every moring after, his muscles got so relaxed, that his back went out. This happened 3 times, so it is not just a coincidence.
Good luck, Lynn


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RE: do you think it is o.k to take valerian root everyday?

Hi Lynn,

I can understand your initial concerns when reading portaljuice.com. In my studies I have found that looking up and scrutinizing references given by authors is a valuable way of determining the credibility of evidence used to make thier claims. So i looked up potaljuice.com, then searched for "valerian", and read the article you refer to in good faith.

Then I saw at the bottom of the page that they referenced the article to Wikipedia, the online encyclopaedia. I have included the link to Wikipedia at the bottom of the page for you.

The clear inaccuracy by portaljuice.com is the crucial addition of the words "About 10% of the population cannot take full-strength valerian; they get headaches and feel groggy in the morning, after taking the tea as a sleep aid in the evening. They might benefit from lower doses. Mid- to long-term use of this plant (~ 2 weeks) might result in emotional upsets. Bouts of hysterical laughter, deep sadness, or rage, without any seeming cause, are symptoms."

As you can see, these words do not in fact appear in the article they referce to thier website. This is inaccurate to say the least, and clearly misinforms information seekers such as yourself.

The article on Wikipedia actually reads (in full).."Valerian (Valeriana officinalis, Valerianaceae) is a hardy perennial flowering plant, with heads of sweetly scented pink or white flowers. Note that this "sweet" smell is quite overpowering when you put the flower into a vase.

Other names used for this plant include garden valerian (to distinguish it from other Valeriana species, garden heliotrope (but it is not related to Heliotrope, Heliotropum) and all-heal.

Valerian has uses in herbal medicine as a sedative. It has in the past been recommended for epilepsy but that has not been supported by modern research. The main current use of valerian is as a remedy for insomnia. Large doses are known to cause withdrawal symptoms when stopped and those with liver disease are advised not to use valerian.

An unusual feature of valerian is that pieces of the dried root affect the domestic cat in the same way as catnip. If valerian root is left in a place where cats have access to it they will roll in it, drool on it, and chew it. However some cats won't touch valerian root. Rats are also attracted to valerian.

Valium is not derived from and does not contain valerian"

Unquote.

I'm sorry to hear of your husband putting his back out, but this is possible because valerian is a spasmolytic (muscle relaxant), and another good reason to consult a herbalist for your husband's sleep problems as alternative herbs without a spasmolytic action are available to help him.

I hope this post is received with the goodwill it was written,

John

Here is a link that might be useful: valerian Wikipedia July 7, 2004.


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RE: do you think it is good to take valerian root everyday?

Sorry all, I forgot to link the portaljuice.com article for all to read. Please find link below.

John.

Here is a link that might be useful: Inaccurate portaljuice.com valerian article July 7, 2004.


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RE: do you think it is o.k to take valerian root everyday?

My bad.
Johnyb is right, I should never quote a site that I have not looked up and scutinized the source more carefully. It seems to me that Portaljuice must have had more than one source though, as how in the world would they come up with a line like that on their own?
I was in a hurry at the time, and just wanted a quick blurb to put in the post that somewhat mirrored my feelings against taking Valerian (or most any herb) "every day".
I will be more careful in the sites that I use for my references in the future. (I had never been to portaljuice before)
No offence taken by me, and I hope others can learn from this thread as well.
Lynn


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RE: do you think it is o.k to take valerian root everyday?

Johnyb....are you an herbalist? You sound very knowlegable about this. I'm a new member so Idon't really know everyones' backgrounds yet!

At a local healthfood/ herbal shop, I've purchased a few different types of tea....for stress and stomach upsets. Valerian tea does have a "stinky" smell...but seems to chill me out too!


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Yes shelly I am an herbalist. Yes , Valerian will certainly chill you out. Meadowsweet and Chamomile teas may also be helpful if your stomach upsets are related to reflux/dyspepsia. If they are related to ulcers then a different treatment plan is indicated.


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It's amazing how one person can fall asleep after a glass of milk and another person can do five "00" caps of valerian
and barely yawn.
I've taken Valerian officinales for bedtime like I take coffee for Breakfast and have done so daily for years.To me it's strong but not too strong and in over thirty years of reading articles/posts, like the ones in this thread, I haven't heard of any legitimate toxic reactions without ridiculous overdoses.
I have known people who have overdosed on water,not
drowning LoL but water toxicity.
Bottom line: it may NOT be safe for you and who better than you to answer that question.


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I too have been taking valerian root for several months now, and I have had nothing but good reactions. The truth is, despite what the fda wants you to believe, is that valerian root isn't even as fully effective, theurapeutically that is, until about after 2 weeks! So why is it then, that they usually put on the bottle to only take it about 2 weeks then stop?? I'm guessin cuz the fda wants you to think its not as effective as lets say... benzodepines (pharmaceutical drug for nerve disorder.)

Besides this, I would say that these statements about valerian shouldn't be made because 1) they are not true, based on experienced people's knowing. and 2) because this only makes people who are nervous... well let's just say more nervous!

I speak for myself when I say that I've tried over-the-counter meds for insomnia, depression, and nervous disorder. But nothing works better than Mother Nature's cabinet of healing medicines. Let's not forget a healthy diet to boot.

Anyways, that's my two cents.

By the way, I just recently stopped taking valerian root after about 5 months continual use, and had no problems.
I feel it has therepeutically healed me in some ways after prolonged use, unlike many over-the-counter drugs which only wear out over time.

Peace.


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The FDA, to my knowledge, does not have a requirement that supplement companies place a warning/suggestion on valerian labels that consumers stop taking it after two weeks. Such advice may relate to insufficient long-term studies on effectiveness and/or safety. The FDA does not have valerian on any hit list, nor does it promote other nonprescription or prescription sleep aids.

"Besides this, I would say that these statements about valerian shouldn't be made because 1) they are not true, based on experienced people's knowing."

A poster in this thread who cautioned people about possible side effects with long-term use of valerian is an herbalist who has contributed a great deal of useful information to this forum for years.

I have suggested previously in this forum that a poster interested in an herbal sleep aid look into valerian, and while some physicians recommend it based on research backed by experience, not everyone is convinced that there's enough good information (as opposed to testimonials) to validate it as a good remedy for insomnia. This doesn't indicate that there's some government plot against herbs, but shows that people with responsibility for our health are cautious about approving what drugs/supplements/herbs we take.


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My husband & I started drinking a cup of valerian root tea before bed.
Both of us have slept much better from a cup of tea ! Amazing. I, too, am a little
concerned about drinking it every day. It seems that the loose tea would be less strong than taking the capsules. Does anyone have thoughts on that?


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I doubt there is any sleep aid in existence that can be taken for long periods of time and not pose some kind of problem*, ranging from lack of continued effectiveness to side effects. Maybe there's a magic substance somewhere that can be used indefinitely with no accompanying baggage whatsoever, but if so it hasn't yet been revealed.

*this includes the new prescription sleep med that supposedly is not habituating. What that probably means is "we haven't used it clinically long enough to see this problem occur".


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I have taken Valerian every night for about 8 years to help me sleep and I'm still walking ! Much better for you than prescription drugs, which some people take for years.


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Contrary to popular myth, valerian IS addictive. It should never be taken regularly for more than 3 months.


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Personal experience.
Valerian is fine if taken short term for no more than a week or 2 to get over some stress related anxiety or insomnia. But personally i say that it should not be taken long term. There are suggestions arrising in the medical community that if taken for months with increased doses then withdrawl can be exactly the same as benzodiazepines.
This was my experience. Benzodiazepine withdawl can be summed up as a total living hell wich can last for months, some symptoms not subsiding for years. If you are taking or contemplating taking valerian long term then I suggest you look up benzodiazepine withrawl. The worst thing is that this stuff is innitially seemingly a harmless relaxing hebal remedy. Not classed as a drug. With no real research done on the affects of long term usage.


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Personally, I subscribe to the Native American belief that an herb should be used for about a week, switch to another, and then go back. According to that medicine, an herb taken too long can lose its effectiveness, and your body will not only build up a tolerance but too much of a good thing will actually contribute to the problem you are trying to treat. Try switching for a week or more to an herb like bee balm (Monarda fistula) or a catnip/skullcap mix tea. Then go back to Valerian. Switch it up, and see how your body responds to different herbs. I like to use oat extract with melatonin sometimes. Puts me right out! Most suggestions of addiction,and/or toxicity to common herbs are perpetuated by the FDA. Educate yourself.


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Think of it this way: If you suffer from a cold for 5 days, do you take cold medicine for 3 months or for 5 days?

Most herb literature suggests herb use for 2-3 weeks/6 weeks max because most symptoms will have resolved by then if the herb is going to impact them. If they haven't you probably need to change your treatment plan.

While there are "general" usages of herbs, ALL of them have histories of very specific use via specific preparations for specific periods of time-- learn them. AND learn your body & be aware of its needs. As this topic has confirmed, herbs affect everyone differently.


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I take Valerian root a couple times a week, 2 pills 2 hrs before bedtime, from a jar I bought at Walmart Pharmacy (common non RX brand). I think it helps a lot, and I have not had any bad side effects. If I slept less than 7 hrs after taking it, I felt groggy till about 4 hrs after awakening, but that is more likely from lacking sleep before taking the medicine. I like Valerian root.


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I've been using Valerian root pretty consistently for about a year. I go to work every day. I pay bills on time. (early, actually) I take tons of the stuff..all of it in pill form, sometimes as many as 9 pills at once, and then 3 pills every few hours after that point to keep a good comfy zone-out going. WAYYYYY better than drinking. No hang overs, I don't feel like I'm gounna die the next day.....I'm just....ok. The only real downside is that when I poop, it smells like a million museums filled with corpses and farts came out of me. The trick is to take enough Valerian root that you no longer care how your poop smells.


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I am wheelchair bound with very tight muscles. I take valerian root in capsule form (cvs brand)on occasion to relax my muscles. My question is up to how many times a day can I take valerian safely, or is it strictly for use before bedtime? Thanks!


 
 

 

 


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