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- Posted by hopefulauthor z5IL (hopefulauthor@sbcglobal.net) on Wed, Apr 25, 12 at 14:13
| Hi Rina, I too purchased Medinilla last Jan..The only difference is mine is M Scortecchinii, but I believe magnifica and scortecchinii need similiar care. Mine has been in bloom since it arrived, Jan 18th... Not only is the flower alive, but has grown. When a plant is blooming, I rarely repot, so so far, it's in the same soil. After the flower dies, I plan on potting in well-draining/succulent soil, with a little African Violet mix. Medinilla's grow best when a little pot-bound, so its future container will be 1-size larger than its root ball. I love the flowers on your magnifica. Before getting my Medinilla, I was looking for magnifica, but found this species on sale, so decided to give it a try. Good luck, Toni
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| Toni Thank you. I just got mine & read that flowers last as long as 4 mo. I like that! Rina |
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- Posted by hopefulauthor z5IL (hopefulauthor@sbcglobal.net) on Thu, Apr 26, 12 at 14:15
| Rina, I'm curious what your Medinilla flowers will look like after buds open. Or are they flowers now? lol. You don't see many Medinilla pics floating around. Please post pics when/if they open. 65.00!!! Sheesh. Why so expensive? lol. I've tried Medinilla's a few times in the past, but they died. Don't know what I did wrong. Four months is a long time for flowers to last. The only other plant w/long-lasting blooms is Bromiliad. I hope both our Med's make it, and rebloom in the future. |
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| Toni The photos I posted were just taken and that's how much they open so far. The one I received is smaller than HD ones for $65 were, but I was able to find out it was $15. I think they charge this kind of $ since we are in 'cold' Canada I guess...and I think they are just recently available here. There is annual flower show Canada Blooms in Toronto in March, and this year Medinilla was "star of the show" - after that they all dissapeared from HD. Hope we both have luck growing it. |
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- Posted by hopefulauthor z5IL (hopefulauthor@sbcglobal.net) on Fri, Apr 27, 12 at 14:00
| Rina, WOW, the Medinillas are absolutely gorgeous. 'link you provided.' Did you happen to read the article on Medinilla care? What type of fertilizer did you or will you use? It's a little confusing since they're Epiphytes. 15.00 isn't bad at all. Actually, you got a great deal. After seeing yours and the link, and if mine survives, I will probably hunt for M. magnifica. lol. The flowers are amazing. Also, I'd love to live in a house like the one in the link! That sunroom is amazing. :) Toni |
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| Toni; I read thru that site & some others since I didn't know anything about this plant. I think I'll fertilize using MC 12-4-8 that I have, 1/2 strenght. If I could get Foliage Pro here, I would use that. Eventually I think it should be repotted. I am considering orchid-type soil, since it is epiphyte. Also read that it actually needs to be in larger pot. Needs to be warm, humid and definitely do not overwater. I hope someone else growing this plant will comment yet. And I do like that sunroom a lot! Wish I had at least a skylight... Rina |
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- Posted by strobiculate none (My Page) on Sat, Apr 28, 12 at 0:29
| So here's a pet peeve of mine...why are plants supposed to be cheap? so that all you ever find are the same old also rans that you find everywhere...oh wait...time to get excited...THIS golden pothos is grown on a stake! Mime is grown in nearly pure peat moss, has been there for nearly two years. they only time it has been out of bloom is when I cut the old flowers off before the new ones had started to show color. when purchased it was in a 6" pot, plastic. I moved it to a terra cotta clay pot of the same size and put the whole thing inside a larger decorative pot with a couple inches of packing peanuts on the bottom and padded the sides with sphagnum moss. fertilized one a week with a water soluble Peters 20-20-20, misted heavily daily. currently has eight flower bids in the process of expanding and seems to be putting out new growth buds daily. |
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| Strobiculate as far as price goes, I just look at what I can afford. I will not pay $65 for plant they do not have any idea (when asked) as of how to take care etc. I prefer to "try" with less expensive, just in case...And knowing that many large-box stores really do not take properly for variety of plants they carry, I hesitate to spend so much $$$ there too. I wonder what zone do you live in? Do you keep yours indoor thruout the year? In researching on this plant, one of the sucessfull growers said that they need some room - when root-bound, very susceptible to wilting (drying out fast). Thnx. Rina |
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- Posted by hopefulauthor z5IL (hopefulauthor@sbcglobal.net) on Sat, Apr 28, 12 at 16:49
| Hi Rina. Actually, that site is one of the best. I usually Google and Bing plants..more often than not, results are where 'X' plant can be purchased. Even if you type in, 'X' care, or 'X' soil. Makes no sense. When Medinilla stops blooming, it will go in a large container, but for now I'll wait..only problem is it's so root bound..needs water every 2nd day. LOL, I hear ya on the sky light. Hi Strobe. I don't understand your statement regarding prices. I mix my own soils. Since Medinilla prefers acidic soil some Peat will be added in addition to other mediums. When plants do well, flower in a certain size pot, it makes sense keeping in the same size container..On the other hand, if extremely root bound to the point foliage hasn't room to grow, repotting a size up is necessary. It depends on the plant AND the amount of time one can afford to spend watering. It takes 3-5 days to fertlize, @ 4-hours per day. lol.
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- Posted by strobiculate none (My Page) on Sat, Apr 28, 12 at 20:12
| About the soil question...you show a pic of the surface...how about the root ball? your soil looks like mine. basically peat perhaps with some very fine compost. I mau repot mine perhaps this fall perhaps next spring...it'll.depend on bloom cycles of course you don't understand my comments about prices. and yes i realize i am being deliberately offensive and patronizing. and yes i realize you are not made of money nor do you care to part with what you work hard for foolishly. neither is the point, nor is it the point that i just ain't giving you much sympathy. The question is one of priorities...you can have a good inventory of unique plants staffed by knowledgable personnel or you can have an inventory of the same plants staffed by someone who might know that plants benefit from timely watering. In the end we all want cadillac products at wal-mart prices. |
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| Strob... I took a close-up of the soil day I received the plant. Does not look good to me, it's definitely peat with a bit of green on top - not really moss but definitely not good. I just don't want to disturb flowering; as I read, should be re-potted after flowering. Hope that will be OK. So I am just going to watch it, mist it as much as possible & eventually repot into (probably) orchid type soil. Toni what is your soil mix? Rina |
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- Posted by hopefulauthor z5IL (hopefulauthor@sbcglobal.net) on Mon, Apr 30, 12 at 11:27
| Howdy Rina, LOL, yes, I do have a lot of plants..Yesterday, I spent part of the morning and half the afternoon watering succulents. South and west sides of the front plant room. Still have west and north sides to water..lol. Some plants, mainly tropicals, are brought to the sink and showered..that's one reason it takes so long to water. 65 plants is a lot, too, Rina..lol. One plant I really don't care for is ZZ. lol. I feel bad confessing, since many people love this plant, but ZZ does nothing for me. Rina, I have a small 8x12 green house. Plants in gh, Citrus, Agaves, large Aloes, Gingers, and a few odds and ends. I hauled some plants outside when temps were in the 80's. One citrus, Gardenia, variegated Ginger, Euphorbia, and a succulent dish garden I made up years ago from extra cuttings. A few nights were close to freezing, 34F, but so far, no harm or frost has discolored leaves. Yep, winter is not the best time of year for plants. Heat, stuffy, dry air, lack of light! Thankfully, artificial lighting, humidifers, indoor fountains, fans, misting and showering helps plants survive through winter. Aw! Please don't mention the 'S' word, lol. You asked about my soil mix. Are you talking about soil Medinilla is potted in? Toni |
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- Posted by hopefulauthor z5IL (hopefulauthor@sbcglobal.net) on Tue, May 1, 12 at 13:39
| Rina, Been mixing my own soils for years. Peat or Sphagnum Peat is added to plants that need acidic soil. Like Medinilla. However, mediums are altered depending on type of plant. I don't add Peat with succulents or plants that do not require acidic soil. Rina, you have some interesting plants. When you say fig, do you mean Ficus Benj or a figs that are usually grown outdoors and produce edible fruit? How does Thunbergia do indoors? I recently bought one..at first I considered planting outside, in the ground, but read they can be grown as house plants, so decided to keep it potted..It's fairly small, and wasn't in the best condition, so I don't know if it'll make it in or out. I thought I had a lot of Jades, lol. Does your Ludisia bloom in winter? Mine did for the longest time, but I moved it a few years back..no more blooms. Think it needs more light. When I first got into plants, I bought a plant book. Hyponex. I read and reread, looked at plant pics over and over, fantasized which I wanted. lol. At the time, most were impossible locating..no such thing as the Internet. Even w/the net, I still enjoy reading plant books, getting different authors' views. Learning Botanical names, especially succulents, 'for me' would take years, lol.. There's way too many species, not to mention cultivars and changes. Better 4 south facing windows than 4 north. Your buds look great. Medinilla's have pretty flowers. Wish they were fragrant. Why don't you sell your extra perennials? Do you sow seeds during winter months? Is that the reason you have so many outdoor plants? Maybe you should try sowing tropicals/succulent seeds. Most take a lot longer than an annual, but worth the wait. Seeds are available on Ebay and many online nurseries. Very reasonable prices. I need to finishing watering plants, but we haven't had sun since last week. They're predicting cloudy days and rain all week. Blah. Oh Lord, I watered my Medinilla and two ferns this morning, left them in the sink. While typing, I wasn't paying attention to my two male Cockatiels. Toni
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| Toni the fig is 'edible' but do not know anything more about it. I did not have a place to overwinter it (without killing it), so it produced 5 little figs right after New Year. I hope to be able to grow it properly in the future; maybe build a shed for overwintering of some plants. Thunbergia grows very easily, but I think it still does not have enough light/sun indoors in my place, and is leggy. But it bloomed few times, it's pretty. I can't wait to put it outside. And it needs somekind of trellis, grows just like passion flower. I wasn't sure it will survive, since it got chopped down to about 2-3" in fall. Took about 1 mo & it started few new shoots. (not so great photo of ludisia:) Ludisia bloomed last time around Christmas. I had it in hanging pot in approx. 2hrs of sun & it liked it there. Has many new shoots. I don't sow any seeds in winter, but had luck rooting cuttings of almost anything I tried. Ninebark (have about 16 now), kiwi, 7 yews (from neighbours trimming their hedge), weigela, euonymus, deutzia, bluebeard, roses, berberis, boxwood, viburnum (from seeds), cornelian cherry (from seeds), and some more. Most are easy to root. Last year I rooted a palm: bought it many yrs. ago when my son was born. No idea what it is, just a palm. Grew almost 8' tall with skinny trunk, so I finally nicked it in the middle of trunk, wrapped in moist spaghnum moss & covered in plastic. In couple of months it had roots...so I got rid of original trunk (did not sprout) and the palm is only 3.5' tall now... All other plants are mainly divisions from garden perenials. I am hoping to get some seeds and try to grow succulents this year. Watch those babies of yours...they probably like tropical plants, feels like home...Rina |
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- Posted by hopefulauthor z5IL (hopefulauthor@sbcglobal.net) on Tue, May 1, 12 at 17:16
| Rina, you might be able to answer a question about Kiwi. Several years ago,(15+) I ordered and planted Kiwi in the garden. At the time, I had NO idea a male and female were needed to produce fruit. Every article I've read on kiwi suggest 2 to 3 males to 1 female. Should I tear out the kiwi growing, start over or add males? Or do you have another suggestion? I'd really love to see this plant fruit. I think it's old enough. Right? Very nice fig. Did it fruit in or outdoors? Some figs are hardy as low as z5...since you're z6A, you can choose several varieties that will survive your zone. I had no idea Thunbergia was a vine. Thought it grew upright. Oh well, if it lives, I'll use a trellis. I tried expanding your Ludisia but for some reason it won't open. I hate when that happens. Do you have pdf files or another type? Some time ago, I pruned and rooted Ludisia. Do you know it'll live in water? lol. Instead of placing every cutting in soil, I placed one in a hanging glass tube. It's still alive. I kept a Ludisia in this same tube for years, but forgot to water..lol. I swear, they live on air, lol. Rina, I mist plants daily..not succulents or cactus, but tropicals and bulbs get a daily spray, sometimes twice a day. You have a Super-Green Thumb, lol. Wonder which palm you had. Never heard of air-layering a palm, but guess it can be done. Don't worry..I set the plants back in their spot, and keeping an eye on my two males. I hope they're okay. There aren't many avian vets here, so if something were to happen.........oh God, don't want to think about it. Do you have pets? They're great, but need constant watching. We had to have our 12-yr-old, English Mastiff put to sleep about a month ago. It's devestating. Don't want another disaster. Speaking of perennials...I can't believe how many plants have sprouted, budded, bloomed this year. A first. We didn't have much of a winter, so plants, (trees/bushes/bulbs/perennials) are a month ahead of time. Most of my house plants would have survived outdoors all winter..lol. |
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- Posted by tropicofcancer 6b (My Page) on Thu, May 3, 12 at 14:06
| Since someone mentioned fig, I thought I will chime in. I have one outdoors and it looses its leaves every fall. Last year it year it produced some 50 yummy figs. Over the years the tricks I discovered were these: a. mulch heavily for winter. b. They like to produce suckers from roots. Chop them off. Leave only few strong shoots to grow. c. Needs a lot of sun for fruits to mature and ripen. For me it ripens in Sept or so. I do not know what variety I have though. It was there when we bought the house. Probably is 20+ years old. Very easy to make cuttings. I recently got a cutting of another fig - kubota or something like that name. I am trying to root it now. |
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- Posted by hopefulauthor z5IL (hopefulauthor@sbcglobal.net) on Thu, May 3, 12 at 14:46
| Rina, Thanks for the sketch..wow! lol Is Carpel the same as Ovary? Not that it matters. Kiwi never flowered. lol. I thought it was the opposite..more males than females. Guess, I'll need to buy more Kiwis.. Male and females. Or pluck it out. I'd rather now wait another 3-5 years. Most hardy figs go dormant, drop leaves in winter. If grown indoors, the fig doesn't realize it's winter, so leaves remain. In case this is the first time you've rooted Ludisia, before planting in soil, wait until roots are large and strong. Too small, and there might be problems. It's funny about baby palms growing from your compost. Some ppl try sowing palm seeds successfully, do everything possible, without luck. No palm. Yes, I agree, you need a holiday. Pets are great, I really love them, but they require work. Lots of work. Tropico. I believe it's normal for figs to go dormant from autumn/early winter until spring. What I didn't know is figs could be rooted by cuttings. That's interesting. I can't believe the number of outdoor, garden plants that are budding/blooming so soon this year. Planting in IL is May 15th..IL farmers planted corn, ect, weeks ago..a big risk. Some of last years annuals have reseeded, and sprouted. This only happened a couple times the last three or so years. Uncanny. Oh, last year I planted a Musa, banana basjoo. A new pup is already growing. I'm soooo happy..lol.
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- Posted by purpleinopp 8b AL (My Page) on Thu, May 3, 12 at 17:04
| Rina, from what little I can see of your fig in the above pic, it could be a turkey fig. I took cuttings of the turkey fig (that grows everywhere around here) about 6-8 weeks ago. I gave them away and that person has planted them in their yard, said they had some pretty good roots. I had put them in pots of about half top soil, half mulch, under the tree. I got some seeds from a palm tree (cabbage or sabal) while camping a couple weeks ago. I'll try the 'compost pile method' on some! Googled the namesake of this discussion & wow - what cool & beautiful flowers! If I see one, I will get it. |
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| tropic & purple, thank you for the tips on the fig. I'll do some more research ( on the fig thread of this forum too). Toni, aparently there is a self-pollinating kiwi; I don't know the name and hardiness but nursery should know if they carry any. I finally put few pots outside, today was warm & rainy; they should enjoy the shower. |
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- Posted by hopefulauthor z5IL (hopefulauthor@sbcglobal.net) on Fri, May 4, 12 at 14:26
| Rina, Like Purple, I thought your fig might be Turkey Fig, but wasn't certain. If my kiwi is self-pollinating, maybe there's another reason it hasn't fruited. Yes, Musa basjoo is a hardy, inedible banana plant. I planted a couple in front, twice before. They didn't return the following year..front gets more sun than back yard, so you'd think the Musa would have come back. No such luck. I think it's the soil. It has way too much clay. Other plants grow in front, (perennials/bulbs/annuals), I don't know if clay is the reason Musa didn't return. The back yard, depending on location, gets 'mostly' north, east and some south light. If planted nearest the gate, very little west. Here's a pic of the basjoo planted last year..BTW, when I purchased it, it was in a 4" pot, about 7" tall. I planted in-ground, in mid-summer..Fairly late in the year. Now that a pup sprouted, it should grow much taller. BTW, some nurseries claim Basjoo is hardy to z5, others say z6. Who to believe? Some house plants have been outside about 3 weeks, even though nights got really cold, but so far so good. Two other reasons I haven't taken more plants out. Ants are nuisances. They make homes in soil..when plants are brought in, so are ants. Another reason, weeding needs to be done. I planned on plucking weeds today, but the ground is 100% mud from last nights storms. Rina, which plants did you place outside? Purple, good luck on compost propagting, lol. Toni
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| I put only few plants outside so far, since nights are not warm (I think) enough. Last 2 were just above 50, but for next few forecast is abt. 45 degrees. Do not want to shock them too much - or maybe I am overprotective? Ficus benjamina, fig, olive trees, jade, passion vine, angel's trumpet & jasmine all spent couple of days outside. Back in for the night... Purple, let us know if palms sprout from seeds...Rina |
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- Posted by hopefulauthor z5IL (hopefulauthor@sbcglobal.net) on Mon, May 7, 12 at 15:12
| Rina, I set a few plants out, too. If temps drop below freezing, I don't feel like carrying a zillion plants back inside, lol. The Banana is growing in the ground, 'in case the banana was the plant you were referring to.' I have no control when it sprouts. Plants you listed sound safe. The only plant that wouldn't go out is Plumaria. They're too cold-sensitive, even above freezing temps. Purple..Last year I won Bottle Palm Tree seeds on Ebay. The seller sent about 50 seeds, way too many. I was expecting 10. lol. I sowed a few. It can take a year for some Palms to germinate, so I'm not holding my breath. Toni |
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| Help!!! I'm in love with Medinilla Magnifica plant. Having a very hard time finding where to purchase one for a reasonable price. Can anyone help me? Live in Florida |
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- Posted by hopefulauthor z5IL (hopefulauthor@sbcglobal.net) on Fri, Oct 26, 12 at 11:35
| Lydiarose..Pretty name. Anyway, got my Medinilla on Ebay via Hirt's. Hirt's also sells on Amazon. Toni |
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