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Plant ID

Posted by shellie021 6 (My Page) on
Fri, Sep 14, 12 at 13:03

Hi. I recently fell in love with this plant at the supermarket. There is no card or any information on it at all, and neither of the two people that work in the department have any idea what it is. It's in a hanging pot sitting in a wicker stand. The leaves are soft...not meaty. I would love to buy it. I've been trying to ID it for almost a week. I just want to make sure that where I want to put it will be okay, and what care is needed. I hope someone can help me. Thanks in advance. :)


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The foliage looks very reminiscent to me of a Helianthemum. But was this being sold as a house plant? If so it's not that. No flowers or buds visible? Without more info there are a lot of plants it could be.

Helianthemum is a hardy perennial sub-shrub.


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Indoor house plant. No flowers or buds. A lot of new growth on the tip. I'm going to pick it up if no one has yet and get some other pics. Maybe that will help.

Thanks for responding.


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looks like Nematanthus or Goldfish plant to me


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Definitely not a Goldfish or Nematanthus. The leaves are much meatier on both of those than the one I posted. Heading out now to pick it up. Hopefully it's still there.


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Hi Shellie

You could also try posting this at GW's 'Name That Plant Forum'. They're very good at IDing things other folks have trouble identifying.


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I bought the plant. New person working in the department had no clue what it was....and she was busy texting. :)

I took two pics since I got it home.


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Thanks for that link, pirate girl.

Here's the second pic since it moved into my already plant filled apartment. :)


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No it's not a Helenium now I can see the close ups.


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You're welcome for the site referral (link). Sorry, I don't have a clue what your plant is, I doubt I've seen it before. I hope that after you learn what it is, you'll come back & tell us. I'm sure I'm not the only one who is curious.

Looks quite healthy, whatever it is!


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Hi Shelly,

I too am curious. :)

You said your plant is in a hanging basket..Do stems cascade or seem to be growing upright?

What is the length/width of each leaf and do they have markings? Veins?

By chance, was a tag/label included?
Do you have the bar code number? If so, Google the number, the name 'might' pop up. Toni


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Is it Aeschynanthus? I recall seeing one like that somewhere recently.


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Three more pics....entire plant, leaf, and then back of leaf.

Upright until it falls over. Not fully upright. The largest leaves are 3" long and about 1/2" wide. It had the main heavier vein down the center, and small veins off the sides of the main, only about 4 or 5 on the 3" leaf.

No tag, no label....no anything. Crap....I peeled off the sticker with the UPC code, and it's not on the receipt.

Definitely not an Aeschynanthus.

Thanks.


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Front of leaf.


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How about Hoya? There are a huge number of Hoya varieties..different shapes, leaf texture, sizes etc. Toni


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I looked through pics of Hoyas the other day, but couldn't find anything like this plant. I can't believe I can't find it anywhere. I've had plants for years, but don't recall ever seeing one like this. Nothing in my plant books either.


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Shelly...I'm leaning towards Aeschynanthus. There are numerous types..large and small leaf, fuzzy and smooth. Various flower colors and shapes.
I've checked several sites...sorry..hope you find the name.
It's too bad you tossed the code..what about an SKU#? Could it be on the pot or receipt? Toni


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Tho' it reminds me of Hoya bella (that crease down the middle), it's not a Hoya.

I'm repeating my suggestion, pls. go to Name That Plant, Forum, someone there WILL know.


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Yes, I posted there. Not much luck.


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Pls do give it time, a couple of days for folks to come around to see it. Since it's healthy, you're not in a hurry to do anything are you?


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I'm just concerned as to why some of the leaves are dropping. Thought I posted this already, but I don't see it.


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Shellie, it's understandable you want to know why leaves are dropping.
One reason it's important you find the name. I know you've tried.

Since plants vary, being able to ID will help with care. Sun, watering, temps, etc.

Does the store you purchased this plant have more available? If so, can you go back and get the code??

Do they sell perennials? If so, it's possible someone placed your plant in the wrong section. It happens often. A customer will bring an outdoor, garden plant inside a green house, or where house plants are sold, decide they don't want it, and set in the wrong location.

If it was my plant, and needed an ID, I'd either phone the store or go there.
Is there a manager or someone who might know its type? At the minimum you can ask for the code.

Are leaves yellowing before they fall? Toni


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No, it was the only plant of its kind. I even went to another supermarket, same chain, and they didn't have one, nor could it be identified there either. The leaves dropping aren't yellow, and it's leaves that are quite small. I just found another. Here's a pic of it in my palm. They look healthy. None fell off yesterday when I moved the plant around.

They do sell perennials outside at this supermarket, but they don't bring them inside...probably because of pests. This one was by a pothos.

I just called a florist in town. They said to send them pics, and they'd see if they could identify the plant.


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Shellie, holy smokes! What we do for our plants.. :)

Hope the florist can Id your plant. I'm curios now..lol.

Every so often, customers place plants in the wrong section. I used to work at Home Depot green house; leaving outdoor plants in the green house was a frequent thing. People don't care..they place something anywhere they happen to be standing.
It's worse w/groceries. I hate when a package of meat or frozen foods are sitting on a shelf..really makes one lose their appitite.

If you find out the name of your plant, please let me know. Good luck, Toni


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I'm addicted to plants...no question.

No word from the florist yet, and they're closed for the night, but I'll absolutely let you know what I learn.

I definitely believe this is an indoor plant. It just doesn't have that outdoor look. I mean you could probably put it out in a shady area like you would a Boston Fern in the summer, or a Spider Plant, but I wouldn't....BUGS. :)


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Wednesday, and still nothing from the florist. Maybe they don't know what it is either. One thing...it is dropping a lot of healthy looking leaves....all sizes.


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Hi Shellie...Other than the florist, is there any family-owned or standard green houses/nurseries around?

Forget places like HD and Lowes..Most employees couldn't distinguish a weed from a citrus tree, with fruit! lol
Unless, of course, a manager is available and happens to know plants, which is possible...rare, but possible.

What about a university?

How about a nearby conservatory? Specialists know their plants.

Other than those I mentioned, I'm out of ideas.

One last resort is Googling. A few people here listed plant types. Start with the names given. Google, 'X' plant pictures. Clink on the link. Up will pop different varieties.

It's possible, typing attributes of your plant, (leaf, color, shape, texture) spaced by commas will lead you to your plant or a similar variety.

Oh, one other possiblity is to send pictures to online nurseries. Some vendors may open the pic, respond with a name, but others might fear a virus. Can't hurt to try. Right? lol.

Hope you find an ID....Toni


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Not nearly as many green house/nurseries around. I've called them all. Just got off the phone with one that said to email her the pics, and she'll send it to someone that may be able to help. Closest University is Yale. Hmm...maybe their botany department?? I've googled every which way. I've gone through all the possible names listed here. My concern right now are these dropping leaves. I did just call the supermarket where I got it, and spoke to a different person in that department. She remembered the plant, but didn't remember where it came from. I thought maybe I could contact the supplier. Well, at this rate I may not have any plant left. Thanks again. If I learn....first place I post is here. :)


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Shelly...you're quite the detective..lol..Good job.

Hopefully, someone from the nursery can ID your plant.

Yes, the botony dept at Yale will know. Phone first, get names, then ask if you can email a picture.

Leaves are still falling? Maybe it's time for a change. For instance, how often are you watering? More often than not, soil needs to dry between waterings. Does the pot have drainage holes?
I'd withhold fertilizer at the time. At least until you find a name.

How much sun is it getting? If shade, provide more light..if in direct sun, place in bright light.

Can you set outside?

I've studied your photo a million times, lol. It resembles this or that plant.
Still wondering if it's a perennial. Every so often, a plant that shouldn't be is placed in a shipment.

Yes, please let us know if/once you get an answer. Toni


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So far I've heard from no one. However, it looks like a lot of the new growth is browning. I don't see webbing, no aphids, no other pests, but something isn't right. A lot more dropped leaves this a.m. It's in a bright light, but no direct sun. I checked out the two I have in the small vase, and they're rooting, however one of the new growths also is brown...the other one isn't. I hope it doesn't have anything. I dealt with aphids this summer in my front north window, but that seems to be taken care of...plant in garbage. Anyone tired of listening to me yet? :)


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Hey Shellie,

I'm not tired of listening to you, and I am very curious about your plant.

Is brown soft or crispy?
Are you allowing soil to dry between waterings?
Have you fertilized? If so, when and what NPK?
Besides aphids, which you don't see, what about other insects like mealy, scale and mites?
How much light is it getting? Direct, bright, low or shade?
Is brown spreading or on different parts of the leaf and/or edges?


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If it were mine & I were this concerned, I'd return it to the place of purchase for a refund. Any chance the rootball has become hard to the touch?

(I would also comment on the new dept. worker too busy texting to try & be of help to you & she's a new hire, yikes).

Some plants drop leaves when adapting to new environments, like some Ficus are famous for doing so, some Polycias do this too.


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Codonanthe: bellflower vine?


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Mary, your Codonanthe is beautiful.

Do you think Shelly has a Cononanthe too?


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" Anyone tired of listening to me yet? :)"

Aboslutely not! Been watching this, and I'm curious too. Hang in there, keep working it!

Since it's still unsettled, I'll throw out what I thought the other day. Could it be a Plectranthus? Wiki says there are 350 species. On 9/14, you put a pic where it looks like there's some slight scalloping to the leaf edges, but that may just be pixelation in the pic since I don't see it in any of the other pics.

In general, browning/dropping leaves on any plant is a sign of a problem inside the pot. Is it the type of pot where the hole is raised in the center, and not really at the bottom surface of the pot? Hopefully even if a proper name isn't found soon, the health can be improved.


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not mine, this was my guess what mystery plant might be.


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I wish there was a way to reply to each post individually. Scrolling back....

Spoke with Marsh Botanical Garden at Yale, and they'll check out the pics. Meanwhile, I haven't heard from any of the other places I sent pics to. Most of the local plant places are starting to close up for the season. Just Lowes and Home Depot are still going, but don't have many houseplants.

Leaves are still dropping, all sizes, and they're healthy looking. Every so often I find a dry one. The three stems I have in the small vase are still doing well. I haven't fed it or watered it yet. It's still very heavy, and the soil still feels somewhat wet. I mushed up the soil some. Maybe it needs transplanting. Not sure if it's a ball of root in there or what.

NPK? The bookcase it's sitting on is hear a Hoya. I have another brighter wall that has a Boston Fern on it, and I'm contempating moving it to where this new plant is if I can find out it needs more light.

It's a supermarket, and I bought it on the 14th. I doubt they'll take it back. I do really love it. Went back yesterday to check to see if they might have gotten another in since. Nothing.

The Codoanthe is beautiful, but not this plant. Those leaves look meatier. I don't see anything that looks like a Plectanthus checking out all the Google images.

The scalloping....do you mean where I posted that some of the new leaves were turning in?

I see no signs of any other pets. The new growth looks good. It's all about the dropping.

The pot you're describing with the hole is raised in the center and not at the bottom...or the bottom like the pic I just posted? It's like 10 days I have the plant, and is it possible it doesn't need water yet? It's very heavy.

I just used the handle of a spoon to push up on the white at the bottom of the pot, and it lifted out all the plant. I didn't lift it enough to see if it was pot bound, but I did water it.

'Nuff said. :)


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Please forgive my typos. My plant doesn't appear to have pests. However, this is a house full of pets. :)


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Shelly, usually someone on this forum can ID plants.
I'm still wondering if your plant is an outdoor specimen.

Maybe you should place outside a few days. See how it does.

If it's been 10 days since you watered, and the soil is still wet, the soil is definately too heavy..Repotting a plant that is dropping leaves isn't normally done, but since it's losing leaves anyway, maybe you should repot in a well-draining soil.

What is the white stuff on the bottom of pot? Looks a little like Mealy, but not sure.

What type of pets do you have? Toni


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Yes, that kind of pot can lead to unhealthy plants because the water in the bottom 1/2-3/4" has no way to drain out. If you have a little hand pruner or very sturdy, sharp scissors, it's pretty easy to nip a triangular hole at the inside rim, near the hole, or around the outside "bottom rim" of the pot, so excess water can get out. If water comes out when you nip, (you may want to do this over the sink or outside,) that's probably the cause of this plant's unhappiness. That undrained water can cause the roots to rot, which in turn hinders the plants' ability to be unable to quench its' thirst and obtain nutrients. If the roots can't support the foliage, the foliage is dropped.

I use a ton of these pots, but they all have several holes added to the true bottom surface. That thing you were pushing on with the spoon handle is a (usually perforated) divider that is really doing nothing more than preventing all of the volume of the pot to be used by soil/roots. It can't keep the roots away from excess standing water. It won't hurt anything once there's at least one hole in the true bottom of the pot but since it's wasting some space, I remove those when I repot plants.

A pot that feels "very heavy" is not ready to have more water added yet.


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The evenings are too cold now. I could probably put it out during the day, but for sure it will get some kind of insect. I also think that the Sun will fry these leaves.
The white is just stains.. Today is the first day I watered the plant since I got it.

I've got cats, Toni. That's why I want the plant up high, and to learn what it is. I don't want them eating any leaves that drop.

So I'm going to clip out that peace looking sign thing? When I push up on that white thing water does come out. I cut it out now. Should I try to drill other holes in the bottom of the pot as well?


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Sorry, I just mentioned taking it outside while you're putting a hole, so it doesn't make a mess inside. I'm better in person, with expressions and hand gestures.

Maybe my expert art skills will better convey. When I nip a hole, it ends up looking like a diamond has been removed. Will post a pic of one of my pots in a minute also.


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Here's a pot that came with great holes.


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This is one of my pots just like yours that I've put a hole in. Usually it looks neater, but this serves the purpose.


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Shelly, if you have access to a hand drill, just tilt the pot, 'outside, like Purple suggested,' and make several holes.
Our drill comes w/different size bits..I normally start w/the smallest, so it doesn't crack, then work up to a larger bit. An electric drill would be faster, but some pots crack, so it depends on the pot.

Aw, kitty-cats..Little sweeties. I love cats, but have 4 birds so I can't take the change. Although we had a cat from a kitten,,he passed away 4 days after his 17th-b-day..but he was special..didn't bother the birds.

Don't blame you for being concerned about felled leaves and a chance one of your cats might nibble. Do you cats normally eat plants or couldn't care less?
Not that it matters, you never know what a pet will do.

I hope you get an email ID'ing your plant. What a mystery!

If possible, hang your plant in a real shady spot, outside, then when temps drop below 50F, bring indoors.

I hope your plant makes it. Toni


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No problem about taking it outside. I'm on the second floor and just have a balcony with what's left of this years plants, squirrel and bird food. :)

I have other pots that look just like that. I cut away that peace thing, and then chopped into that white plastic thing as you can see. No big roots that I can see. I may cut some more of the plastic away. Meanwhile...I still don't know what it is. I hope the guy from Yale knows.

Still wondering if I should change places with that plant and the fern.....but if it is anything like a Ficus, I'll start with the leaf loss again....not that it's stopped.

I enjoy all the feedback from every one of you.


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This is a soft enough pot that I should probably make holes along the outer portion with a bottle opener...if I still have one.

I love birds. All at one time I had 4 cats, 1 Collie, 2 mice (saved from being snake food), gerbils, two parakeets, one canary, two finches and three fish tanks. Yes, I was a lunatic. That was all in a one bedroom apartment. Not to mention tons of houseplants. :)

I also think I'm going to go to the store again today and see if all their plants come from the same place. If so, then I may be able to track it down.


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Shelly. This year, when repotting, I placed window screen on the bottom of the drainage holes. It works great, no spilled soil.

I can't tell the size of the hole..it looks large???

Wow, you have quite a few pets, too. lol..They're great.

As of now we have 4 Cockatiels, Shih Tzu and Iguana.
Last May we had to put our 12.5 yr old English Mastiff down.. I'll tell you, it was difficult. Not a day goes by I don't think about him.

I bred cats, fish and Cockatiels. lol. Fun, but lots of work.
Watching Betta's breed was exciting. Well not so much breed, lol, as dad making a bubble nest. Dad would squeeze mom until her eggs came out. He's then catch each egg then spit them in the bubble nest. Poor mom. The first time they bred I thought she was a goner.

Baby birds are so cute. Featherless and sightless. My male, Mystic and his '1st' wife trusted me so when it was time to hand-feed, there weren't any battles.

Funny, my dh was walking our dog in the forest. He saw a blade of grass move..non-windy day..Turned out to be a baby hampster, 'similar to your mice store.' Dh brought it home, held out his hand..Feaaring most rodents, I jumped 5'. lol. We ended up keeping her. She was sooo smart..even learned to use a little toilet. She was with us almost 2 yrs. I guess someones hampster had babies so they tossed them in the woods. Jerks! Even though the hampster was female, we named her Stewert Little. lol.

Collie's are beautiful. I don't see many around these days. Even when I worked as an asst vet, very few Collie's came in.

Nope, you're not a lunitic, Shelly. People who love plants and pets are normally good people. Caring and nuturing. I enjoy being a mothering pets. BRinging them back to health.

Our Shih Tzu was abused terribly..don't want to think about it, I wasn't looking for another pet, since Sam our Mastiff weighted 172 lbs, 4 birds and iguana..to bring in a 6lb puppy was a little frightning.
My brothers a Chicago policeman, so it was he who had the dog. I agreed to take Coco on Christmas Day..poor little puppy was terrified..We all love him.

What type of fish do you have?

Funny, before moving here, we lived in a large studio appartment. We had 5 cats, a parakeet and a Rott, Cujo, and about 75 plants..lol. So, if anyone is a lunitic.....lol.


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I usually use pebbles or a coffee filter, but I like the idea of screening.

People don't know what they're missing when it comes to collies. They're amazing. I think the problem is the fur. Tons of care, and tons of shedding...but my whole life has been fur on my clothes and everywhere else. It wouldn't be home without it.

Right now as for fish, I just have a betta...Hank Hill. I'm so sorry to hear about your dog. I have a 15 year old cat that was a rescue when he was a tiny baby. He's the oldest. He has a brain lesion, and I was so afraid the vet would say it's time, but he said time him home and enjoy him. He eats, doesn't really clean himself, and every so often misses the litter box. He also does some howling. I know many would say put him down, but that's not me. A year ago I lost a 16 year old....it near killed me, and the year before that I lost a 6 year old. These are my babies. I can't imagine life without them.

Back to my plant so I'm not completely off topic. I still haven't heard from anyone. I did go to the store and find that the other $12.99 hanging pothos had the UPC code sticker, and it said that it came from Consolidated Nurseries. I'll try and locate them. So here's a pic of the one leaf that dropped today. I'm not sure what that is in it.


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I'm gonna toss another guess into the ring - could it possibly be a type of tradescantia? That plastic thing in the bottom of the pot is purely nasty. Whenever I see a plant with that thing in the bottom, I pull the plant out of the pot and remove it, even if it means I have to cut roots. From your description, I would guess that the plant is way too wet, as well as being stressed from being moved several times. I think I would just let it sit in good light (after taking out the evil plastic insert), not water it, and let it settle down. When it dries out and stops dropping so much, you can trim back the bare places, and start again.


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I'm gonna toss another guess into the ring - could it possibly be a type of tradescantia? That plastic thing in the bottom of the pot is purely nasty. Whenever I see a plant with that thing in the bottom, I pull the plant out of the pot and remove it, even if it means I have to cut roots. From your description, I would guess that the plant is way too wet, as well as being stressed from being moved several times. I think I would just let it sit in good light (after taking out the evil plastic insert), not water it, and let it settle down. When it dries out and stops dropping so much, you can trim back the bare places, and start again.


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No, that's not it, although I do have a tradescantia zebrina. It's not doing too well for some reason. I hope it makes it.


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Morning Shelly,

The screen is perfect. We had new screen placed on our doors..Dh was going to toss it. At the time I was repotting plants. Some drainage holes were huge, so the screen idea popped in my head, lol.
It works great, now I'm using it for various pots, big holes or not.
Too much soil etc is lost w/o adding something to prevent it from slipping out of drainage holes so screen was the answer.

What would life be like w/o fur and feathers? lol.
Coco, our doggie, doesn't shed, but needs daily brushing..their fur tends to matt, looks like dread-locks,lol, when not brushed.
Birds lose a few feathers now and then, but it's worse around spring and fall. I find feathers everywhere. It's molting season, time for new winter feathers.

I agree Collie's are beautiful. I think about Lassie, how pretty she was. Do you brush her/him daily?

What color is your Betta? I feel so sorry when we go to the pet store, see Bettas sitting in tiny bowls. Some bowls are so small the poor fish can't turn around. Awful.

Thank you, regarding Sam.

Oh, your poor cat. As long as he's not in pain, there's no reason to put her down.
Why does he howl? Does he do it at certain times? Daily?
Poor baby..it's sad when our beloved pets age. I hope and pray he'll be with you, without pain, a long time.

Many people don't understand how we pet lovers feel when our furry/feathered family members get sick, or worse go to heaven. Plus there's many who shouldn't own a pet rock, let alone a cat, dog, bird or fish.

When I worked at the vet, there were a few people who refused euthanizing their pets. That's how much they loved them. What was sad, some dogs/cats were so sick in a way it was cruel keeping them alive. On the other hand, 'one reason I quit,' people would bring 1-yr old cats and dogs in to be put to sleep..the cat/dog was healthy. A wk or two later, these same ppl would come in w/a new kitten/puppy. These 'people' were bored with their older, 1-yr-old petz, so had them put to sleep.
More and more ppl were bringing their pets in, which made me very depressed. I'd help with the euthanization, my eyes tearing up. I wanted to punch the people out!
Sorry, but this is something that sticks in my mind, and irks me to this day.

Shellie, because you started this thread, you can discuss anything you want. Plant related or not. :)

I see the marking, but it's too far away. I can't tell what it is either. Is it a brown and bumpy? Can you feel it when rubbing a finger over it? Does it protrude? Could it be Scale bug? Know what Scale looks like?


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Henry Hill is blue and is in a 5 gallon tank with a filter. I had others in 2 1/2 gallon bowls, but they all died. One vanished. I didn't smell the cats breath to find out. :)

Well, I heard from Consolidated. I guess it's not their plant. Here's what he wrote.

"Shellie � my apologies here��I cannot identify the plant!! It�s not one of ours�..we only sold the pothos hanging baskets to Stop & Shop. I sent the photos off to a few other people asking for help.

I�ll let you know what I find out!"


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Shellie, Is Henry Hill named after the star/real man in Goodfellows? lol.

I checked Consolidated, hoping your plant would be posted, but they only listed a few HI plants..
Have you checked Exotic Angel's website?

Oh brother..this is a real mystery.

Are leaves still falling? Hope not.


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Yes, that's the Henry Hill...RIP. Not the fish RIP. Aside from Loving Goodfellas the movie, I loved listening to him on Howard Stern. He was a mess. Henry also opened a restaurant up here which burned down after a short time. That's no surprise.

I haven't checked Exotic Angels. Seems just that one fell so far today...oops, I lied. I see a few more on the carpeting.


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Wow, quite a reading I had to do and I can remeber that Toni had said that ten days is much to much time to go by before it dries out. I agree.

The roots may be very stressed due to a lack of constant oxygen to the root zone which is what had caused my goldfish plant in the past to shed perfectly healthy leaves like your plant.
It was also the cause of cupped leaves too.
Despite being in the state of cupping and dropping of leaves, just as soon as I transplanted my plant into a much better porous mix, all that stopped and it thrived within days.
One thing we do know is that every plant I have ever owned responds well to a mix that holds moisture well and allows the roots to breath at the same time. One that does not allow salt deposit build up, unless it's a sludge or swamp plant.

Also, thrips can cause healthy leaves to drop too, and they can not ever be seen, at least not by me.

I wish you all the luck on identifying. Please keep us going on this. I hope you get an answer soon.

Mike


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I too love Goodfellows. Did the real HH die? I had no idea.
Oh yes, it's understandable why his restaurant burned. Actually, I thought he changed his name, was on the Witness Protection Program, and moved away?

If I were HH, I'd have done everything possible to escape from certain people.

My brother bought one of Hill's paintings.

I didn't know he was on Stern's show. Maybe the interview is on YouTube.

Exotic Angel plants are sold everywhere..it seems.

So sorry leaves are falling. That's ashame..If you could only find the name, it'd help with care instructions.

Mike, you gonna get this plant, too? lol


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I was sure this was an EA plant and looked at all of their hanging plants yesterday, but the only close matches were Aeschynanthus, of which they have an abundance of varieties.

FicusW, we're in total agreement about that plastic thing in the pot. Good riddance!


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Well...still no ID, and there is way too many leaves dropping as well as some of the branches getting weak. :(


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Did kitty jump on it maybe? Sounds so drastic! Don't feel too bad. I can kill a Fuchsia faster than this...


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No, Molly wasn't up there. :)

I just lifted the plant and a ton of leaves fell off. They're healthy leaves. I spray it with water. I'm lost.

Oh....I bet I can kill a Fuchsia faster than you, and I'm brutal with Jades. :)


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I'd stop spraying it, doubt it'll help.

I know you still have no ID, if if were mine, I'd turn it out to check the roots. Even w/out an ID, one can still assess the roots for damage proper/improper drainage, pest, etc.

Have you checked to see if the rootball has hardened off to the point where the plant can't drink?

If you're unwilling to unpot to check, how about checking w/ a skewer or pencil for moisture, by pushing pencil all the way down in the mix, if it comes out w/ mix on it there's still some moisture down there (if you know how to check a cake for doneness w/ knife or toothpick, it's the same idea).


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Still no ID. The soil is moist and is absorbing, and I have half the size plant I did. Every morning there are so very many leaves around the plant, and on the ground. I want to repot it today, but I can't even imagine how many leaves I'm going to lose.

Not sure what's going on with me. Some of my plants are as great as always, and my Wandering Jew is falling to pieces. I never had trouble with it before. :(

Have a great weekend everyone..


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Could it be a Hoya?


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I searched every pic of Hoyas I could find, but nothing. Something had mentioned Columnea to me, but that's not it either. I just wish I knew why the leaves were falling in in such great abundance.


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I just thought Goldfish Plant, but I can't remember the latin name!


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Not that either....nor Lipstick. I fell in love with this plant, so it's really bothering me that it's half the size it was. :(


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Has it flowered?


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No flowers. It doesn't seem like a flowering plant to me. I've only had it about a month.


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You know it actually looks like a Cotoneaster, an outdoor shrubz some of which are trailing plants!


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Some more leaves just fell off and I noticed this on the front and back of one of the leaves. I've seen it on others, and one of my earlier pics here has the same mark, but with black around it. Anyone know what this might be? I'll post the front pic right after this one. It's a perfect round spot.


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Hmm....pic didn't show on previous message.


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Front of leaf round spot.


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Shelly, are leaves thick or thin? I or someone else might have asked this question before..if so, sorry.

You said the soil stays moist? Is that correct?
If so, let it dry completely between waterings. Not to the point soil cracks. Lift plant when wet to test weight. When soil is dry, it'll be a lot lighter.

In the last pic the leaf resembles Hoya, but hard to be certain. Toni


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Is it a lipstick plant?(aeschnanthus radicans) I just bought one and I'm pretty sure it looks the same. I will post a picture after dinner


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Ah yes, lipstick plant does sound like a match!


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This is the plant I bought today. I believe its the same, but I could be wrong.


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I think we have a winner!


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I don't know anything about plant identification, but I've been following this post from the beginning. SO happy we have a winner! It won't feel official until shellie021 shows up and confirms! :)


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I want to say yes, but I can't. Your leaves are thicker..more like my Hoya,and the pic I just attached, which is one of my Hoyas. My leaves are super paper thin....and still falling off all over the place.


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Oh well I needed an excuse to buy the plant. LOL
The leaves are pretty fragile. The leaves arent as big as your hoya leaves. The longest is around 3 inches. The leaves are a bit rubbery but fragile.The stem is thin and the leaves are opposite.

sorry I couldnt help.Hope you find out what it is, maybe a horticulturist at your state ext service could help.


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It's not a Hoya, I believe that suggestion was offered up much earlier on the thread & I refuted it then, sorry.


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Hi Pirategirl
I didnt say it was a hoya, I was comparing to the comment you made along with the photo you posted of your hoya.

Pirategirl said
"I want to say yes, but I can't. Your leaves are thicker..more like my Hoya,and the pic I just attached, which is one of my Hoyas. My leaves are super paper thin....and still falling off all over the place."

good luck I hope you find out what it is.


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Sorry Polly,

If I misunderstood, but apparently I did.

That's not me you're quoting, I never said that.

Just checked the thread & maybe Shellie said it? Looks like Shelly 021 said it, I definitely didn't.


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ooopps sorry, your right, I quoted wrong. Sorry.So is it a lipstick plant?


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Well I finally got a call back from one of the nurseries, the woman from the houseplant division. Apparently, the guy I sent the email to had gotten married, and went on his honeymoon, so she just received the info. She said give her the weekend to check it out. She said it's not a Hoya. The leaves are too thin. It was also recommended there and on a FB page that I pick up some Super Thrive, which I got yesterday. I picked up the plant to bring it into the other room to add some fresh drier soil, and the Super Thrive, but so many leaves fell off.

I called Lowes looking for the Super Thrive. The guy I spoke to said they don't carry it, but Hme Depot does, he told me the cost, and he said he swears by the stuff. So lets see what happens. At this point I don't care it's name I just want to keep it alive. Oh...and the woman from the nursery said that circle in the leaf I posted the pic of here could be a fungus. :(


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All superthrive is vitamin b12 in a different form. Also known as riboflavin.


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Is that good? I'm hoping it will rebuild the root system before all the leaves drop.


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Not sure. I wouldnt give a sick plant fertilizer tho.


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It's not fertilizer. It says right on here in big black bold letters... 'Not a fertilizer.


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Polly..your new plant is a Hoya pubicalyx. Can't tell if there are speckles on leaves..H. pub has pink or silver splashes, depending on species, but also a green leaf variety, too.
Funny you should call it a Lipstick plant..When I bought my H. pubicalyx in 1983, the tag read Lipstick plant. It was years before I discovered my Lipstick was actually a Hoya..lol.

Shelly..did you explain your question was a matter of life and death, and the man should be notified and reply back to you in spite of his honeymoon? lol.

I don't know about your plant..Perennial keeps popping up.

Although some do not use SuperThrive, I do and have been over 20-yrs. I believe it works. But, only my opinion.

However, if by chance your plant is a perennial, no matter what you do or use, it will continue dropping leaves.
It's too bad she couldn't make an ID.

However, add ST to your other plants..(soil, not foliar.)Once a month is sufficient. I use 3 drops per gallon..For stressed plants, 10 drops per gallon.

Larry..maybe I'm reading your comment wrong, but ST is NOT a fertilizer. In fact, it's recommended to use w/fertilizer.. Check their website. www.superthrive.com

Shelly, one more thing. If, by chance you like ST, instead of buying locally, go to Ebay. I paid 20.00 for a pint. It might have increased a bit since my bottle is over a year old, but much more economical via the net. Toni


Hope you have a sunny corner, because H. pubicalyx is huge when mature. Looks terrific hanging, stems and foliage flowing down to the floor.


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Oh I mistyped, Im an idiot! I meant to say about the fact ive never used such a supplement but i usually use fertilizer to perk plants up, but that Id never give fert to a sickly plant.


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Shellie,

Save your money, few of us here use it as it doesn't work. Toni uses it but she's the only one on here I've ever seen say it works.

Personally I have tried it several times & it doesn't work, nor will I waste money on it again.

Practically speaking, it's a better use of your time & money to just focus on learning good basic gardening skills instead.

Toni, I believe we'll have to disagree, Polly's new plant is a Lipstick plant, not a Hoya (IMO).


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Karen, I apologize..I was looking at Shelley's last pic..duh..lol.

Polly, I am sorry.. Your plant is a Lipstick.

Regarding Superthrive..there's many people from this forum, 'not to mention other forums,' who use ST, but won't admit it in public.. Guess they don't want to start a confrontation...Toni


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How about magnesium sulfate (epsom salts) for plants? For houseplants it's one teaspoon per gallon of water and fed to the plants every one to four weeks. I know many that are very pleased with it.

Went back to the grocery today hoping maybe they got another plant like mine. Still nothing. But they have these new Neon Pothos which are absolutely beautiful. I've got to make room. :)


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Shellie,

One doesn't just apply stuff to plants w/out a particular reason. What is it you're trying to accomplish w/ these additives? If you don't know or can't say I suggest it's best not to. Basics really are all one needs, especially to start out; keeping it simple really does help.


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If you have a Walmart near you, check out their bag of epsom salts, and read the back of the package. I wasn't suggesting it for my plant. As for mine, tons of leaves fell off today. I don't think it's long for this world. Same with my Wandering Jew. None of which have been given any fertilizer or anything else. I did give a bit of ST to the leaf dropper.


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Sad to say that my beautiful plant is just about completely nude. I'm cutting off the branches I can save and trying to start them in water. Some of the earlier ones I took off have rooted. So many leaves have dropped off.

However, I did pick up a new small plant yesterday...the card saids Exotic Foliage, but no info and no name. I was wondering if anyone might be able to ID this one.

Thank you all for all the time you spent trying to help me find out what the original plant here was.


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Hope it gets going again from the cuttings. Good luck!!!


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Did you get your id yet?


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Shelly...your new plant pic didn't show...Toni


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Shelly...your new plant pic didn't show...Toni


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