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| Hello;
I'm thinking about setting up a large vase with a beta fish. We had one with a peace plant, the fish lived a nice long (for a beta) life (3 years). I know the peace plant does well with the roots in water full time, as it is still growing in the vase and the vase is full of roots. Are there other options for plants that would live long term with their roots in water? The only thing I have found consistently mentioned (for growing with roots in water full time) when searching is Pothos, but I don't think those would look that great in this setup. I read that schefflera (mini umbrella) plant can be grown with it's roots in water full time, but I am not confident I believe it based on the sources I read that from. Does anyone know if a schefflera will really do well living with it's roots in water? Any other suggestions of house plant that would do well in this situation? Thanks
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| Spider plants and Syngonium grow well in water! |
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| I forgot...wandering jew also will grow in water. I've kept all for a long time. |
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- Posted by jamiedolan 4/5 (My Page) on Thu, Oct 28, 10 at 15:21
| I have some wandering jew. I never even thought of it much as a house plant, I just bring some in to over winter it, it tolerates a lot of neglect, once I bring it in, I kind of forget about it till spring, just dumping water on it every month or so. I actually have a whole pot of it sitting in the middle of my kitchen I keep having to walk around because there is no good place for it. I'll give some of it a try. Thanks |
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| I doubt a scheff would last long in water. |
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- Posted by pirate_girl Zone7 NYC (My Page) on Thu, Oct 28, 10 at 18:25
| Aglaonema (Chinese Evergreen) does well in water. I've grown one that way for several years, it's NEVER seen any dirt. Jamie, I'd suggest you pls. give more than once a month water to your Wandering Jew plant, I'm surprised it doesn't collapse on you. They can be pretty thirsty plants, that seems like VERY little water, & they are not succulents. Hi Go Blue, I'm newish to Scheffleras but found a nice variegated one in my bldg & took a cutting. I rooted it in water & have since moved it to Hydro (it's about a month now); it's here in the office w/ me for the 2nd week now, no windows just flourescent light. So far, looks great, including new growth so we shall see. I've seen Anthuriums grow in a vase of water w/ the beta fish but I don't believe that would be good for a beginner. |
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| schefflera will grow in water, I've had a small branch in water for a couple of years. probably won't grow very noticeably since you won't be able to fertilize it with a fish in there with it. Mine had almost no growth until I started to add nutrients (a hydro mix)I doubt a single betta would produce enough waste to make a difference to any fast growing plant. |
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- Posted by jamiedolan 4/5 (My Page) on Thu, Oct 28, 10 at 20:34
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- Posted by jamiedolan 4/5 (My Page) on Fri, Oct 29, 10 at 21:47
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- Posted by hopefulauthor z5IL (My Page) on Mon, Nov 1, 10 at 14:03
| Jamie, are you planning on combining plants and Betas? When choosing plants, make sure they're not poisonous. You know how fish are? They nibble, even try plucking plants from gravel. lol. I used to breed Betas, and other fish. Non-toxic plants were bought at the pet store..non-plants would last 3-4 days. finally went to plastic, lol. We had two Oscars and a few Jack Dempseys...they'd work their way pulling plants out of gravel. Think they were playing, lol. So before adding a new plant, Google plants that are safe with fish, and will grow hydroponically. Toni |
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- Posted by hopefulauthor z5IL (My Page) on Mon, Nov 1, 10 at 14:12
| Jamie, forgot to mention your plants, lol. They're doing great. Clean up the Spider, remove brown leaves. Trim leaf tips by clipping, leaving about 1/8" of brown on. After pruning, you'll see a huge difference. It's a nice specimen. I water Spiders with water that has been sitting out at least 24 hours. I keep old milk containers, clean, and leave water inside. When a plant needs a drink, the water is available, and room temp. Your Purple Heart is nice and full. Did it flower this summer? Your Croton, on the table, is nice, too..so full. Make sure it gets light and humidity this winter. |
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- Posted by jamiedolan 4/5 (My Page) on Mon, Nov 1, 10 at 14:25
| I'll clean up the spider plants, they actually are pretty big plants. I think I have been calling the purple heart a wandering jew, thinking it was just a different type of wandering jew. I think the plant next to the croton is really a wandering jew. Here it is: These are the Hoya I got at walmart, they are labeled "Rubra", I'm not sure if that is correct though. Thanks |
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- Posted by hopefulauthor z5IL (My Page) on Mon, Nov 1, 10 at 15:07
| Jamie, your Purple Heart, 'Setcreasea' has semi-fuzzy, all purple leaves. The pic is a Wandering Jew, 'tradescantia,' but doesn't look like the plant on the table. lol. Your table is filled. lol. Yes, both Hoyas are Rubras. Very very nice. Common names can be confusing. For instance, I didn't know Purple Hearts' common name is used for more than one plant. Ex, Setcreasea and Tradescantia. You got some really nice plants there, Toni |
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- Posted by pirate_girl Zone7 NYC (My Page) on Mon, Nov 1, 10 at 15:35
| Hi Toni, Pls. try not to add to the confusion on Hoya names, even if just accidentally. Those Hoyas are both H. carnosa Krimson Princess. That 'Rubra' name is one of those garbage names Exotic Angel insists on using to confuse things. Yes, to the dark purple, fuzzy Wandering Jew plant, it is called Setcresea. At the lower left of its pic is what will be (or was) a flower. No wonder it's still alive after so little water (it's more succulent than the regular one you have also pictured). I too would groom ALL the plants, that is remove all dead/decaying matter, not just for looks, but becuase it invites decay & bugs. (Personally, I'd spend some time developing better habits on this, before buying even more plants.) |
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- Posted by jamiedolan 4/5 (My Page) on Mon, Nov 1, 10 at 16:03
| Hi Karen; So are both of these types of wander jew plants? What else should I do to these besides pulling out what is dead / decaying? Thanks |
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- Posted by hopefulauthor z5IL (My Page) on Mon, Nov 1, 10 at 17:51
| Karen, Google or Ebay pics of KP and R. If you look closely, you'll see Jamie's are Hoyas carnosa 'rubras,' or possibly H. carnosa rubra x krimson princess. There's a couple of these hoyas selling on Ebay now. Actually Rubra means red. Given enough sunlight, red hues should appear. Toni |
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- Posted by pirate_girl Zone7 NYC (My Page) on Mon, Nov 1, 10 at 21:24
| Hiya Toni, Yes, I know Rubra means red. It refers to the red STEMS this plant sometimes has. But in Hoya circles it's leaves & then bloom for certain that IDs the leaves, not stem color. I had missed the red stems, yes, I've seen that tagged Hoya 'Rubra' by EA, maybe even H rubra picta, I've seen too at local box stores. I DO know what you mean as at different times I too, have tried to grow that Hoya. No Toni, you're confusing different Hoyas w/ each other Rubra will only have red stems. It is NOT one of the whose leaves will redden or pink up. That would be several others including my beloved Krimson Queen (var. on outer leaf edge). These are the pinkish tinged leaves that whiten as they age. or its 'superb' form, extra succulent & some leaves almost pink/red purple/black. Sometimes even the extra handsome half & half leaves where they divide at the central vein 1/2 green & 1/2 white, very cool. Hi Jamie, If you do searches for Tradescantia, you'll discover a group of plants, a number of which are referred to as Wandering Jew (larger family, I believe of Commelinacae). Setcresea, Callisia, the related Rhoeo & more. In general, you might want to browse a basic plant book or two as to what constitutes general care of plants, beside picking off the dead leaves (just browse, don't need to buy). What kind of mix (soil), how old the mix is, light conditions, appropriate fertilizers, insect control, etc. You can browse here about general plant care. Or you could browse Hoya Forum as well. There's lots more to be considered & to answer your other thread, Hoyas aren't necessarily fast-growing plants. |
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- Posted by jamiedolan 4/5 (My Page) on Mon, Nov 1, 10 at 21:54
| HI; I think I gave the impression that I didn't know how to grow much anything. I never though of my spider plants and wandering jew plants as anything other than annuals that I happened to throw in a pot and they happened to live. I mix my own soils and have been transitioning over to them as fast as I can, but have already wiped out over 20 bags of turface this fall. I am using primarily turface now. Turface is just so superior to anything else out there that I have grown in and easy to work with. I don't even have to screen it for most things, many fines wash through when you have good drainage. I saved the spider plant:
A couple other things I am growing in the house:
Jamie |
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- Posted by meyermike_1micha 5 (mikerno_1@yahoo.com) on Mon, Nov 1, 10 at 22:03
| Oh Jamie. Fantastic job! I especially like your Bonsai, and is that a citrus I see there, my favorite? Good Job Mike |
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- Posted by jamiedolan 4/5 (My Page) on Mon, Nov 1, 10 at 22:55
| Hi Mike; Thanks, I hope to get my Serissa Bonsai to push out more blooms now that I have it under that massive bank of lights. I currently have 18 four foot bulbs running of the higher out-putting 32W T-8 bulbs. My big jade is doing pretty well. Your right, it did stay a bit wet with the turface and I have had to give it more time to dry out in between waterings. I cut back on waterings and it seems to be doing pretty well now and pushing out new growth. So I think it is going to do okay on the turface. If it wasn't so large and difficult to deal with, I would add in some perlite or grit. I replanted some smaller Jades into turface and they have been doing extremely well. I think my big jade would have been better if I had done straight turface, I mixed in about 10% compost and I think that is making it a bit heavy. Yes that is my little baby lemon. The other lemon we were discussing in the citrus forum is my parents. My lemon is just a few months old. It's a few feet away from my south window at the moment, due to cleaning, but it's spot is right in front of the south window. If it doesn't do well there, then I think it will fit under one of the lighting banks in the basement. I also have a lime and orange tree that are a bit smaller than the lemon. I'm going to tell my parents that they need to start over with a new lemon if they want one. I plan to move my citrus into a turface mix, they are currently in a cactus soil mix, which from a prior conversation, I think is going to end up becoming too compacted over time, but seems to be doing well at the moment. I am sure I have over 100 containerized plants in the house right now. Outside I have a couple hundred plants in pots. Most of which have to go into the garage for overwintering to protect them. That includes about a dozen mature bonsai, over a dozen japanese maples and many other trees, hosta, and perennials. I do a pretty darn good job of staying on top of them all, and very very rarely have anything that dies on me. A few of my lower value plants get a bit neglected from time to time. Some of it was due to lower light in the house. That is the reason I just setup the huge bank of lights in the basement to compensate for that. It is pretty darn bright down there now and I think I am going to do well with growing under those lights. I'm glad I cleaned up the spider plant per Karens suggestion, it does look pretty nice now. I might move it to a hanging basket. Thanks Jamie My baby Lemon: |
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