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Epsom salts as a regular thing

Posted by nova12 zone 2 (My Page) on
Thu, Nov 8, 07 at 19:21

I was at my local hydroponics store today and we got to talking and he told me that I should use Epsom salts as often as every watering. He went on to say that it flushes any salts and old minerals and fertilizers away. He said I would notice a difference the first time I used it. Now I don't want to doubt anyone, but I have never heard of this before except as an emergency measure (and I don't even remember the original reason). Is this something I should be doing to my houseplants on a regular basis? What is the theory behind Epsom salts and using them on plants? Thanks everyone!!


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RE: Epsom salts as a regular thing

NOOOOOOOOOO!

It would be useful if your plant was suffering from magnesium deficiency, which does happen. But it's not going to flush any salts / minerals away; it is, itself, a salt (magnesium sulfate). Even if your plant did have a magnesium deficiency, it would take very little magnesium to correct it, and is hardly something you'd need to do with every watering.


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I agree with mr s... not something you would want, nor need to use with every watering.


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Tropical hibiscus growers often use epsom salts as a supplemental fertilizer, but I don't think they use it at every watering. And I don't think it flushes out anything, just adds magnesium. I used to add it to my hibiscus once every now and then, not sure if it made any difference.


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I don't know why my post was deleted, I didn't write anything inflaming, nor something that could be construed as unacceptable. I've written some pretty cut and dry things and have never been deleted. The only reason I can see that my post may have been deleted is someone doesn't want people to see that other people do in fact use epsoms salts on their plants without adverse effects?

There are a lot of people who use epsom's salts as an additive to their fertilizer. It's not that uncommon, nor is it unhealthy for the plant if used in moderation and the right proportions.

I have a recipe for a fert that calls for epsoms salts which has been discussed to death on epifourms, everyone it seems who uses it has had good success with it, and I've used it myself.

I agree it does not flush salts out of soil, that should be done with plain water, not with anything added to it, but it does have it's perks.


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Deleted? Like, it was on this page for a while and then it was taken off? That sounds like maybe a technical problem -- I'm not aware of any organized anti-epsom terrorist activity. I'd drop a short e-mail to the iVillage people about it, if you're sure it got posted the first time, because if it is a technical thing, they're going to need to know.

I was under the impression that most fertilizer formulations now include magnesium and other micronutrients as part of the deal, and I know mine does (some Miracle Gro thing; couldn't tell you the specific product 'cause the packaging was gone a long time ago). Adding magnesium to a plant that already has it wouldn't help, and we're all in agreement that it's not going to flush salts out (we are, right?). That said, there are plants that have a higher-than-average need for magnesium, which could benefit, but without knowing how much to use (how much do you use, mentha?) and whether your plant actually needs it, it seems safer to me to err on the side of caution. There's also a complicating factor in that city water supplies can vary a lot in how much magnesium they contain before you add anything at all. But I'm willing to retract my above post if anybody has specific information about . . . well, about any of this.


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I've done some more research, and it seems that magnesium toxicity is a pretty rare thing, rare enough that it's not likely to pose a problem for plants (see here for excessively detailed magnesium-related information) if epsom salts are added in the sort of amounts you'd expect. (In very very high amounts, it appears to interfere with potassium absorption.) Whether and when adding MgSO4 to soil is necessary or beneficial, I don't know, but I withdraw the "NOOOOOOOOOO!" and replace it with "ennh."


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If you are in the habit of using a fertilizer with trace elements occasionally, you'll never need to use epsom salts. An excess can bind essential calcium, making it unavailable to plants. It certainly doesn't assist in the flushing of mineral salts from the soil.


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  • Posted by tapla z5b-6a MI (My Page) on
    Fri, Nov 9, 07 at 22:03

Agreed - the only real case most of us could make for continued use of Mg supplementation in low doses would be if we were using a fertilizer that contained Ca but no Mg, or if we had used a Ca source in the original soil that did not include Mg (such as gypsum) at 20-30% of the amount of Ca supplied, or if our irrigation water was known to be extremely high in Ca and very low in Mg.

Mg is found in plant tissues in the range of 5-15% of the amount of N. Another way of saying it is there should be 7-20 times more N available for plant uptake than Mg.

Al


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My understanding is most people that do use it use it maybe once a month. It's NOT really needed if you use a good fert that contains Magnesium.


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Mr Sub.

Sorry I was on vacation, but I use epsoms salts for plants like Schlumbergera where a magnesium deficiency will kill the plant in short order. I also use it for tomatoes, peppers, and other nightshades. I also use it whenver I find plants with yellowing leaves.

I don't recommend it for everyday use, but like I said in the above post in moderation it is safe. I don't use commercial fertilizers with the exception of Eleanor's VF-11. I make my own fertilizer from a recipe picked up online being sold for cactus, it works well for any plant except the slowest growing plants like Sans, which too much can cause striations of the leaves.


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