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120 foot tufa retaining wall

Posted by artsymama Z7 NV (My Page) on
Mon, Aug 16, 04 at 19:03

Hi All!

Thank you so much for all your help, pictures, hints and advice. I got brave this weekend and tackled my first tufa project- a 120 foot retainng wall! I did a tufa face(portland, sand, peat 1:1:2) on an existing cement block wall that was filled with rebar, cement and rocks. All this as practice for my hay bale wall.

Take a look at it & please give me feedback on the "carving" does it look ok? or does it look too fake rock ish? I plan to add colors(if I can ever move again)with coffee & tea tomorrow, and wood stain next week.

Please check it out at:
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/sutterock@sbcglobal.net/album?.dir=/4e52 &.src=ph&.tok=phPO.lBBiQezSujU

hope the link works- im new at this posting stuff


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You deserve some kinda silver star for heroic tufa'ing!!! I think it looks fabulous. With a little drying, color, dirt, moss, etc. it will be the bomb. Do you have pics of the wall before it's makeover? How did you shape your (many, many, many) rocks? Do you need muscle relaxants? I am so impressed!

Debbie


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Great Wall!

Kinda makes me wish I had some place to put one!

Please post pictures once it has cured.


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Mercy!!!!!!!!!!!!
That looks REALLLLLLLY cool, I've seen artificial stuff that didn't look this good.
Please, more details.

Michael


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And this was your first tufa project?? Good grief, Artsy!! People are going to wonder where you got all those great rocks! It is fabulous!!!!! Can't wait to see your haybale wall.

Jo


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WOW WEEE WOW WOW!!!
I bet your back hurts!
How's your fingers?
Man, you must be as wackie as the rest of us, to take that on as your FIRST tufa project!!!
It looks so good!
Aren't you proud!? I'm proud of ya!~


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  • Posted by peakpoet Sunset 24~Sunset 24 (My Page) on
    Mon, Aug 16, 04 at 22:46

EXCELLENT!

Thank you for sharing and congratulations on a wonderful, wonderful job. :-)

peak


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That looks just great!! Good work! Speaking of haybales, did anyone see the episode on extreme homes where they put up a framework of wood, pounded bales of straw between the joints, and then put on mesh wire and stucco'd over the bales? They said with straw in the walls 20inches thick, it would take hardly any fuel to heat. I think they put a tin roof on with good insulation in the attic. Here's your next project, guys, build your own tufa houses!!! And make them look like artsymomma's rocks!!! BB


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Thank you so very much for all your kind words! I appreciate it so much- I was nervous to post my wall after seeing all the cool pictures on here.

y'all are gonna laugh, but on the subject of tufa houses.........I am toying with the idea of making a little roofless tufa play castle (with rock walls of course) for my 3 little ones. Sure beats those big ugly plastic primary colored toys that end up in the neighbor's yard when the wind blows. Not sure what I would do with it after the kids outgrow it tho. A giant planter maybe? A dog house? I have been eyeing the faux bois pieces on this forum for little furniture pieces for the castle.... so many ideas, so few daylight hours. I think my DH is regretting getting me the c-mixer.....

I'll post more pix & describe the steps more clearly soon if anyone is interested. I will be adding more tufa to the "rocks" that I am not satisfied with & some of the flatter areas by friday & the color process starts sometime next week when I am satisfied with how it appears to be cureing (if I havent ended up bedridden haha) the coffee already looks interesting on my test spots. Gave the rocks a greenish brown tint where I sprayed it. (Why?)

I think the kids will have fun helping spray the coffee & tea haha.


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Please do update us. Make the playhouse with an eye to converting it to a garden shed.


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Artsymama!

WOW what a great wall. I can't believe you took this on as your first project. What will you do (besides the castle) as an encore????

I would like to build a wall so I can create a slope in my flower garden, my land is FLAT! You've inspired me to realize it's do-able.

INCREDIBLE JOB!!

Melanie


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You are indeed 'Artsy'! And yes, post more pics of the before, give more info on the carving process -- we 'tufaheads need details! Incredible work!!!

I have a hideous cement block retaining wall all along my driveway...lucky me!...I think it's time to buy a cement mixer.

Cher


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Artsymama said, "Does it look "fake rockish?" Well the answer is:

ABSOLUTELY NOT!

I think it looks absolutely UNIQUE and wonderful! So much better than those humdrum stacking bricks everyone buys and uses these days!

Want you to follow up with us and advise how using the coffee to stain this wall holds up over time....I used tea to stain some tufa pieces and it was a miserable failure (color was gone after less than one full summer). So, please (if you can remember and have time) report back after your coffee stained wall has 'weathered' a while!

Tufa On!

Kathy/Longlocks

P.S. No idea why the coffee is greenish looking! But if you wanna encourage some moss to grow on your rock tufa wall, when kiddos are finished eating their yoghurt, just put a little water in the cup (mix the leftover yoghurt clinging to the sides with the water a little) and then have the kids pour this mixture on the wall. The active yeast in yoghurt will encourage moss and lichens to start growing on your wall. And if you or hubby are beer drinkers, you can swish out those beer cans and bottles and pour that on the wall too (this will also encourage moss to grow!)


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That wall is absolutely amazing. And how brave to jump right in and start 'tufaing!

I think a 'tufa playhouse is a great idea. If you could find a way to 'tufa over styrofoam walls (instead of cement blocks) it would even be semi-moveable.

Artsy, the teasing has just begun. My family says that one day they'll wake up and the entire house will be 'tufad. They tell me not to get any big ideas when a cement truck goes by. A major bridge is being built close to where I live (Tacoma Narrows) to accompany the existing one and alleviate traffic. My daughter and I were crossing the other day and I was eyeing the amazing cement work and the huge cement plant that is onsite. My daughter (18) rolled her eyes and said, "What next, Mother?"

Sigh, artists are never appreciated in their own time.

We need to come up with our own bumper stickers, like, "Hypertufa Rocks!" Or, "Honk if you 'Tufa!" Or, "Make Mud, not War."

Deb


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Wow, you chose a very ambitious first project, and it turned out so well. You did a great job.I also will be curious on how the stains hold up. I love the whole project.Cindy


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  • Posted by peakpoet Sunset 24~Sunset 24 (My Page) on
    Tue, Aug 17, 04 at 10:15

Dee,

The coffee stain won't hold up under the weather so unless you're willing to seal it I wouldn't go that route. I hate to discourage anyone in trying anything but your project is so big that an experiement like that would be a major undertaking.

Don't forget that your 'tufa is still curing and will change appearance for the next few weeks. It'll get lighter and you'll be able to see more subtle detail.

IAG

peak


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The playhouse idea sounds wonderful. Here's my thought for the day: Use one of those preformed ponds as a sandbox surrounded by castle walls and turrets. Later convert it to a fish pond, the turret could later house your pond filter system, and you can even dig a moat around it, line it with pond liner and voila: a fish pond/moat, with a bridge??? Wow. Now I want one of those! Have I just had a brainstorm or what? *ROFLOL*
*Ü* BUTTERFLY BUSH


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peak- thanx for the advice- the weather here is severe, so I am glad I found that out now rather than waste my time! I can't be bothered sealing, so I will try something else.

Butterfly- love that idea...tufa play castle, bridge & "moat/ sandbox" with a little garden later becomes a tool shed, fishpond, and pumphouse. I'll have to draw up some sketches & scare my dh with this hahahaha. He already is asking whether this castle is realllllllly for the kids or is it for me?

dee


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It ROCKS!!! What a fantastic tufa wall and an amazing first tufa project! What tools did you use for carving, and how long did you let the tufa set up before starting to carve?

Wonderful!

Eva


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Wow! What I wouldn't do for some of your energy! I sure wish I would have discovered Tufa when I was 20 years younger. As it is, I have been inspired to start some weight training. Funny it took Tufa to make me want to get in better shape. You people are truly inspiring.


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ROTFLMAO at Dixiesmom!
And here I thought that tufa-ing was a weight training program!!!
(and even if it's not, I'd rather lift tufa than weights any day :-)

Kathy/Longlocks


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You probably have the endurance of a marathon runner if you are doing projects like this and chasing after (did you say?) three kids under 3 1/2!

Debbie


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I was wondering how thick you made your "rocks" on your wall?? It looks great!


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Did we ever see pictures of the completed wall? BB


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Excellent wall! That play castle sounds great too! Your kids will be the envy of the block!
Leigh


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I'm back- after a 2 month "break" (been busy- put the house on the market!!)---the wall is holding up well, my kids crawl all over it & all that & it is still all there. I haven't had any crumbling or major cracking yet. I didn't get around to staining it (too much time trying to keep the house in "model home" shape- with 3 toddlers HA!), but I am happy with the way it looks anyway.

I will be tufaing my new home's landscaping in the spring (yippee a blank pallette!!) & had a question regarding courtyard walls- anyone used tufa for a courtyard type wall about 48" high? Would I use a wood frame or cinder blocks......? and I want to add a small wrought iron gate if that makes any difference.

I think it will be pretty to add a courtyard to the front of my home, as well as another (yes my new house has another hill....)set of retaining walls to terrace the hill in my back yard. Those mushroom lights I saw in another thread might look really nice leading up the the courtyard......

ps- anyone had tufa withdrawls? I cant do tufa b/c of my house being on the market & I have been sitting here wanting to tufa practically everything & anything that sits still long enough.(watch out kids!!!)


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I can't believe you are selling the house. Did you know this when you started the retaining wall? All that work, and you have to leave it behind. I know they build walls using concrete blocks just set up without mortar ane then they put Quickwall onto that to make a stucco type wall. Don't see why you couldn't do that with 'tufa. Still can't believe you are selling your wall!!! Hope the new owners will appreciate it!! BB


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Lordy,Lordy, out of courisity,just how many bags of concrete did you use?.......sunset


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Cant get to the picture-says its not accessible. Bummer. I wanted to see it. :( I'm in the process of planning a wall for my house.
heather

Please Please let me see the picture...:)


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  • Posted by kobold Vancouver BC (My Page) on
    Mon, Nov 22, 04 at 21:36

Please, post the picture again!!!


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Hi all,

butterfly bush- yes, we knew we were going to sell the house... which is why we took on such a huge project all at once, we needed to cover our ugly cement block wall to make our yard prettier, and we figured that it was a great practice wall for our new house.

sunset- we used maybe 20 bags of cement, 20 bags of sand, 10 bags of peat (I highly reccomend buying a cement mixer for a large project, ours cost 185$ on sale at a discount tool store can I name where I got it?)

here is the link again, hope it works, have some recent pix of the wall on it now;
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/sutterock@sbcglobal.net/album?.dir=/4e52 &.src=ph&.tok=ph7__GCBEqnjSujU

Here is a link that might be useful: tufa photo album


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i posted more pictures this morning, also check out the slide show, for more details of how we did our project.

we are moving to our new home in mid march....lots of yard to tufa there yeahhhhh!

Here is a link that might be useful: 120 foot retaining wall


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sorry 'bout the link being inaccessible- I thought I had fixed that. Try this one instead. If you have any questions- feel free to ask- I used cinder blocks for my structure then tufaed over it.

Here is a link that might be useful: 120 foot retaining wall


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Ditto to everyone's comments.... excellent job! Thanks for taking the time to post pictures, etc.

Also, any details that you can give about how you accomplished this would be appreciated. For example, how did you make them look so individual?

Thanks so much.


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Artsy [luv your name] Your ''Great Wall of Nevada'' is amazing. Thanks for the idea.

(re:your plants ....... Concrete needs to be aged with water and time to leech out the poisons that kill plants.)

Good luck in your new DIGS - pun intended- heheheh !

Shirley in Smalltownrednecktractorville, WI


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Oh shucks Artsymama, every link I've hit leads to me to an inaccessible file. I was hoping to look at it again because I remember it to be quite impressive. Have you moved from there yet?

Did you ever get a chance to start on the playhouse castle--sounds interesting.


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Hi HowieDoin- Sorry the links don't work- perhaps they have expired? We sold the home that we built the wall at, but our new home is one big hunk of dirt. Perfect for a tufa addict. I haven't been able to do anything out in the yard yet, but I plan to start soon. I want to start with some tufa stepping stones and "fake" rocks for a dry streambed which will follow the swale on the property. We have yet another hill, so I will eventually be doing another wall....although it will be a slower process this time. I am exploring the idea of doing tufa lawn edging as well.


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Hi. I just joined this forum and saw the message about the tufa wall and all the compliments. The link had expired. Is there some way you could post the photo again?

Cathy


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Hi ! I would love to see the wall you did as I have one to do and thius will also be my 1st tufa project. I tried many times to follw the link but to no avail! I am DYING to see the wall...Please help me find it.....Thanks, Bev


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Did anyone else save the picture of the 120 ft wall that could repost it PLEASE!

John


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Hi-
I will look through my cds this weekend and try to find the pictures. I figured out why the link expired- when we moved, I could not keep the same intenet carrier or whatever (SBCglobal) because sbc is not available where I live now, so all my photos on my sbcglobal photoalbums are now inaccessible. I will create a new photosite & repost them as soon as I find them. Sorry for all the confusion- moving is really hecktic!!


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LOL artsymama, guess I started a rebellion here, sorry! Gee, I wonder why finding some pictures would be trying--could it be the moving AND taking care of a bunch of little kids and everything else on your plate!


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I use photobucket.com and it's a breeze. Oh please post the photos again!!!! I came here with an idea and you have already built it!!

-- Zinnia


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I would love to see the photos again as well. We are purchasing a home with a horrible railroad tie retaining wall, and I was thinking of replacing it with concrete block faced with tufa rather than smooth stucco. Thanks for the great idea!

Beck


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Can someone please post the pics of this please? None of the links are working...


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I posted some pictures on a new yahoo photos album, hopefully it works.!

Here is a link that might be useful: pictures- I hope!


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I finally got to see it!! Thank you so much! It's really impressive. Very nice work. How did the vinca hole work out? Is there any moss on it?


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WOW!! Somehow in all of my reading I had missed this. That wall is truly incredible and impressive. Thank you for your persistence in getting the photos loaded for us to see.
I will be waiting and watching for your "tufa kiddy castle". What fun! I'm sure you know that there are a number of books on hay-bale building. I would think that your local library would be able to get them on inter-library loan for you.
Regards,
spiderwoman


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do you have to sign up with yahoo to view someone else's pictures?


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WHAT IS TUFA ?


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Clairdo2, It's short for hypertufa.


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The wall appears to have survived its second freezing, snowy winter. It appears to be intact & holding up nicely. Since we no longer own the property that the wall is located on, I have not had a chance to do a close inspection. I will try to take pictures if the new owners will allow it.

All moss died, the vinca hole had a vinca plant poking through it the last time I saw the hole, but I have not seen it up close in a long time.


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New pictures would be nice since the first one posted doesn't work any longer. Even re-posting that one would be great.


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Bump....I'd love to see it. The previous pic is gone.


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For those wanting to see pictures, the last link posted above does work. I've included it again below...

Here is a link that might be useful: reposted pics of tufa retaining wall


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I am late on everything. the link no longer works and with all the great comments I would love to see what the wall looks like. can anyone repost the photos?


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TTT


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Hi - I got an error, too:
Yahoo! Photos is now closed Yahoo! Photos has officially closed so we can focus all our efforts on Flickr, Yahoo's award winning photo sharing community.

Since June 2007, we provided Yahoo! Photos users several options to move their photos. If you did not take the opportunity to move your photos, unfortunately they are no longer available. For those users that did move your photos to another service, your photos should be waiting for you there.


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I am practically slobbering to see these pictures.

o-someone-please can you find another site that will host them?


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Me too Tansy!!! I WANNA look!!!


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I second this: I've been trying to access every single link and...nothing.
I am now desperate to see this retaininh wall.
Catherine


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I third this. Or is it fourth? Anyone save the pictures on something accessible to us johnny-come-latelies?

Missing out on the glory that is the Great Wall of 'Tufa,

Rain


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I happened to stop by the forum to look up information on cement dyes & lo & behold my old post was on the first page, so I took a look & apparently all of my photos are gone. I don't know where the original CD's are right now, but we just built yet another wall that is at least 300 feet. (This is the wall I am looking for advice on cement dyes)

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new wall

Sorry, the links in the above post did not work. I tried again.

Here is a link that might be useful: 300 foot tufa wall


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OOHH! MI!

What a job well done!!

I am totally jealous!

I sure hope you will give us some info on the technique!


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Does anyone know where I can view a current picture of the 120ft. wall? The photolink posted on the original message no longer works. I recently came across several posts referring to artsymama's wall & would like to see the example.


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Me too! I just went thr all the old posts trying to see if any of the links worked.


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