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Fri, Mar 2, 12 at 12:07
| I live in Dallas, TX and have a back yard that has a big oak tree. One part of my yard gets a good amount of direct sunlight (several hours), while others get just a little because of the shade. I am planning to have someone come out and trim the tree a bit to help with the shade issue, but it's I'm still going to have half the yard in shade more than 50% of the time. I have done some research and think I have ruled out Eco-lawn, as I don't think it will tolerate the Texas heat this summer, so now I am looking at TifGrand, Celebration Turf, Shadow Turf or trying SA Palmetto. I know there are so many knowledgable people on here and I was hoping you all could help point me in the right direction. On a side note, I have 16 month old twins and a dog that would be using the backyard, so it would be getting a good amount of traffic. Thank you so much in advacnce for your help! |
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RE: tifgrand, celebration, shadow turf or sa palmetto? help pleas
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| I can help you out. First forget Shadow Turf. I do not have any personal experience with it, but I do know a few who do and are sorry they ever installed it and has been replaced. Unless things have changed in the last two years since I last checked, Shadow turf is only available as plugs, and a 72 plug flat cost about $90 plus shipping and will only cover roughly 60/ft2 on 6-inch centers which take a season or two to fill in. You can buy a 500/ft2 pallet of Bermuda sod for $90. As for Celebration or TifGrand, not sure you can even find any in DFW area as I think the farms for it are in Houston area. However If the shade is as deep as you say, I doubt they would work. I know the promoters say they will grow in 50% shade, independent research only confirms it doe moderately well in 30% shade, and fails @ 50%. That is only slightly better than standard hybrid cultivars. For you I think Saint Augustine is your only real option. Of the types available in the DFW area with highest shade tolerance and reasonable cold tolerance are: Palmetto
Del Mar
Bitter Blue
Seville
Saphire |
RE: tifgrand, celebration, shadow turf or sa palmetto? help pleas
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| texas-weed - thanks for your help! SDo you think a shade mix fescue would be successful?? It's really appealing as it seems to be so easy to maintain. Just curious. It seems the more I research this the more confused I get! I wish I could just put synthetic grass back there! |
RE: tifgrand, celebration, shadow turf or sa palmetto? help pleas
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| Do you think a shade mix fescue would be successful?? In DFW area? Not a Snowball's Chance in He11. If you plant Fescue now, it will come up and look great. Then come by the end of May or first of June you will have a bare yard of dirt with dead burnt remains of the Fescue. You are in warm season grass territory. Trust this ole Texas Sod Farmer from that area, stick with Bermuda, Zoysia, and Saint Augustine varieties. In Dallas default is Bermuda for full sun, and Saint Augustine for mixed full sun and moderate shade. Zoysia can be used in full sun to light shade. |
RE: tifgrand, celebration, shadow turf or sa palmetto? help pleas
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| I can offer my experience and am in total agreement with TW. I tried one flat of shadow turf last year. It never really spread...waste of money. I also installed a couple of pallets of TifGrand as I have a couple of areas with moderate shade. As TW said, it is only slightly better than 419. Quite honestly, 419 looks much better in full sun. Maybe this year I will feel differently. |
RE: tifgrand, celebration, shadow turf or sa palmetto? help pleas
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| Texas Weed, they do sell Celebration up here in Dallas area. http://www.a1grass.com/ |
RE: tifgrand, celebration, shadow turf or sa palmetto? help pleas
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| Candice, What kind of dog do you have? Does he/she stay indoor or outside? I've seen dogs ruin backyard so that's something to keep in mind. |
RE: tifgrand, celebration, shadow turf or sa palmetto? help pleas
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| Texas Weed, they do sell Celebration up here in Dallas area. OK thanks My Bad. I know the family but did not know they had Celebration. Oh well I am retired and do not stay on top of the market like I use too. |
RE: tifgrand, celebration, shadow turf or sa palmetto? help pleas
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| That's okay TW. Just wanted to let you know in case other people ask you about it. I drive by that place all the time so it's stuck in my mind. Enjoy your retirement! :) |
RE: tifgrand, celebration, shadow turf or sa palmetto? help pleas
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| I have a boxer, she's about 40lbs and won't get any bigger (she's kind of a runt). She is an inside dog and doesn't dig or anything, just runs around and goes potty out there. I plan on spraying down the area that she uses to potty daily to avoid yellow spots in the yard - hopefully that will work. I need to do some more research on that though. |
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