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| Just curious if anyone can recommend a good company to purchase sod from in Jacksonville Florida. I have used Roundtree Sod Company with mixed results. Also what is the best variety of St. Augustine to use. Thanks in advance for any help. |
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| Kathy...try Duda Sod out of Hastings. http://www.duda-sod.com/ You could also try Super Sod, http://supersod.com/ As for varieties of St. A, it depends on alot of factors, most notably the amount of sun that your yard receives each day and the amount of work you're willing to put into maintaining it. |
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- Posted by dchall_san_antonio 8 San Antonio (My Page) on Mon, Apr 11, 11 at 0:29
| Big Papi, what other grasses perform better than St Aug in Florida? We are all willing to learn!! kathy he's right about it depending on many factors. The newest variety is Floratam developed in the universities in Florida and Texas. Floratam looks best when mowed high. Some are more disease resistant than others. Floratam was developed to be resistant. |
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| Floratan is NOT a new variety, actually quite old. You are probably referring to Floratine. Some other varieties are Bitterblue and Palmetto. OP: St. Augustine grass is what every body and their mothers plant in Florida, coarse bladed and very fast growing which required lots of mwoing... I would look at Zoysia instead or even Centipede before using St. Augustine. It resembles crabgrass quite well... Is really too coarse for a home lawn in my opinion. Whatever you do, DONT GET BERMUDA!! |
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- Posted by weed_cutter (My Page) on Mon, Apr 11, 11 at 10:54
| I am in Jacksonville also and have had good results with Roundtree on both occations I have used them. I purchased from them last year about this time. I delt with the small trailer office on South Phillips Hwy. For a sunny yard I went with Zoysia and feel like I made the right choice, it's not the miracle that some claim but I am pleased especially with the appearance. It might require slightly less water than Augustine and need to be mowed slightly less often, but not a drastic difference. |
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- Posted by dchall_san_antonio 8 San Antonio (My Page) on Mon, Apr 11, 11 at 11:37
| I could have worded that much better. Floratam is not the newest. It is the most popular of the relatively new (not ancient) varieties. You can find it everywhere but not all the time. I agree that St Augustine does look like crabgrass at first glance. When I first came to the south that was the last grass I wanted. But I have come to see the benefits. For one, crabgrass will never turn deep green no matter what (St Aug gets very dark green when fertilized). Crabgrass sends up seed heads before you can get around to mowing it (St Aug does not). And crabgrass never grows very tall (St aug can get up to 30 inches and look pretty good if you want that look). Centipede looks like St Aug with smaller blades and larger runners. It must be mowed under 1 inch to look good. It also needs full sun, unlike St Aug. Zoysia can be a good, fine bladed, alternative. There are varieties that grow very well in the sun and some do well in deep shade, so you are covered. Having said that, almost every zoysia lawn in my neighborhood has been replaced with St Aug. I'm not sure what keeps these other two zoysia lawns successful. |
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- Posted by lou_midlothian_tx z8 DFW Tx (My Page) on Mon, Apr 11, 11 at 12:07
| Palisades zoysia looked like dwarf st augustine to me. I liked the way it looked but I've never had a small sample to try it out since no one would sell me samples. From what I've gathered on the internet, Empire Zoysia (similar to Palisades) is becoming more popular each year in Florida. |
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| I have zoysia sod in my lawn. It has done very good so far. |
Here is a link that might be useful: zoysia sod info
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| I'm in Tallahassee and just got 3 pallets of Zoysia that I put down this past Thursday and so far it is looking great. I like the fact that Zoysia should wear better than St Aug would and should have less disease problems. I only planted one side of my driveway just to make sure that this grass is going to live in it's new location. It is a fairly shaded area. The previous owner had centipede there and it all dies out very quickly. |
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| KyleWee wrote: > I have zoysia sod in my lawn. It has done very good so far. Here is a link that might be useful: zoysia sod info Kyle, welcome to the site. I see you just joined. It's great to have you here! :-) I agree with you; I like zoysia a lot too. Just wanted to gently let you know that you seem to be promoting a commercial web site that is your own. GardenWeb understandably frowns on that. It's no big deal, but we'd all appreciate it if you wouldn't do it again :-) A public "whois" search of the web site shown in your link, LandImpressions.com , brings up the following public information. As you can see below, the "Organization Name" for LandImpressions.com is "Kyle Weerts." Your GardenWeb user ID of "Kylewee" appears to be a shortened version of the web site's Organization Name. Domain Name.......... landimpressions.com Organisation Address. PO Box 61359 ====== Like I said Kylewee, it's no big deal. I'm sure many of us are glad to have a fellow zoysia lover on board :-) You might want to read the following part of GardenWeb's policy regarding self-advertising. By the way, please do continue posting, because as a zoysia business owner, you probably have lots of great, wonderful information that can help other great folks here. And I'm sure the folks here can help you too :-) Here's the reasonable policy:
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| By the way, Kyle, don't feel bad. You're not the first to advertise your own site here. Quite a few others have done so before you. Just wanted to let you know the policy. |
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- Posted by oceanfrank 9 (My Page) on Tue, Apr 10, 12 at 21:30
| http://santarosa.ifas.ufl.edu/documents/zoysias.pdf http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/pdffiles/LH/LH01100.pdf Two great articles to get your started on Zoysia in Florida. I live in Jacksonville Florida too. My yard used to be ST. Augustine, as as everybody else on the street, that was until the Chinch bugs moved in. Since then, no matter what, yard after yard puts in new St. Augustine only to have the Chinch bugs move over and eat away at the new Filet Mignon. Based on feedback from many people EMPIRE (Course) and EMERALD (thin) bladed Zoysia's seems to be the most popular around here. If you go to the University of Florida Extension you will see they are very high on them given they are traffic resistant, uses less water, drought resistant, handles the winter better, less mowing, less prone to disease, and Chinch bugs do not like it (though grubs do), which is nice to know your neighbors problem is not going to jump the fence and eat away your new investment 6 months after you lay it down. Good luck. Oh, for Zoysia you will need a new good lawn mower, that can handle cutting at 1.5-2.5 inches. Where St. Augustine is 3-4 inches. Zoysia is not the golden nugget, it has it issues, as I am still dealing with the nerves of cutting low for spring time green up by cutting it below 2"....but just did it....so looking forward to that beautiful lawn again soon. |
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| OceanFrank wrote: > Oh, for Zoysia you will need a new good lawn mower, that can handle cutting at 1.5-2.5 inches....I am still dealing with the nerves of cutting low for spring time green up by cutting it below 2"....but just did it....so looking forward to that beautiful lawn again soon. OceanFrank, it sounds like you just got a new mower. Congratulations on the new addition :-) Is it a rotary or a reel? How many horsepower? [Chuckle] It sounds like I just asked you if you had a boy or a girl and how much it weighed at birth. I agree with you. It does make one a litte nervous to see the zoysia cut to a scalped height for the first time. What height below 2 inches did you cut your zoysia at: 1.8, 1.6 inches, or some other height? |
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- Posted by oceanfrank 9 (My Page) on Wed, Apr 11, 12 at 12:19
| I did just get a new mower. Have been struggling on which one to use. Started with a mid range Toro, but the wheels were too thin and kept leaving marks in the lawn, the bagger was only filling half way and the mulching was leaving a highway divider on the right side. Thanks to Craigs list I decided to experiment with several mowers (Don't like it just resell). I did find one a push Craftsman with high rear wheels that actually did a great job, but too much lawn at sleep angles for a push effort in the hot summer and since it did not have a bag, and the new bag was going to cost $110, I decided to move on. I also tried a low end self propelled. Horrible job all around, so I thought, let's give a riding Snapper a try. Loved the blade cut like a carpet on the straight way, but tight turns and sideways slops strained the cutting ability at such low heights. I read about reels and was close to a Tru-Cut or Trimmer, but when I asked around and not no close shops in the area had much experience fixing and sharpening them, So I did not want to invest in a sharpening and maintenance challenge. Hence, I read and read and read,and decided after trying about 10 mowers, that I felt good in this one. I bought a new Honda HRX217HYA. The first time out, I was floored. Amazing cut at 2", and it SUCKED all the dead leaves right up (Along with the new fertilizer I put down too I suspect). I kid you not when I say I pulled away four lawn bags full of dead leaves from a previous 2" cut on 1600sqft (Just the front yard). This was after pulling about 8 bags on the fist cut. Now I can see to the ground, and most of the dead leaves are gone. What a difference a Great Mower makes. Since the mower is restricted to .75, 1.25, and 2" at the minimum end I decided to stay with 2" this year given how hot it is already and how much dead grass was now gone. 90's in the day and 70's at night. Grass is already getting water deprived. Also I went to the University extension and they pretty much told me in Florida Organic fertilizer were going to be very hard to start my lawn on given my lot was full of pond dirt. Once established it might work, but for now need to continue with something in the 30-0-10 range given my lawn is still nitrogen deficient and pale green. Keep mulching it and each month apply a new round of compost/dirt. Then in about two years give the organics a try. The baby boy is not born yet. Coming in August so hoping he has a green lawn to lay in come August. Thank you for asking. |
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- Posted by oceanfrank 9 (My Page) on Wed, Apr 11, 12 at 13:00
| I did just get a new mower. Have been struggling on which one to use. Started with a mid range Toro, but the wheels were too thin and kept leaving marks in the lawn, the bagger was only filling half way and the mulching was leaving a highway divider on the right side. Thanks to Craigs list I decided to experiment with several mowers (Don't like it just resell). I did find one a push Craftsman with high rear wheels that actually did a great job, but too much lawn at sleep angles for a push effort in the hot summer and since it did not have a bag, and the new bag was going to cost $110, I decided to move on. I also tried a low end self propelled. Horrible job all around, so I thought, let's give a riding Snapper a try. Loved the blade cut like a carpet on the straight way, but tight turns and sideways slops strained the cutting ability at such low heights. I read about reels and was close to a Tru-Cut or Trimmer, but when I asked around and not no close shops in the area had much experience fixing and sharpening them, So I did not want to invest in a sharpening and maintenance challenge. Hence, I read and read and read,and decided after trying about 10 mowers, that I felt good in this one. I bought a new Honda HRX217HYA. The first time out, I was floored. Amazing cut at 2", and it SUCKED all the dead leaves right up (Along with the new fertilizer I put down too I suspect). I kid you not when I say I pulled away four lawn bags full of dead leaves from a previous 2" cut on 1600sqft (Just the front yard). This was after pulling about 8 bags on the fist cut. Now I can see to the ground, and most of the dead leaves are gone. What a difference a Great Mower makes. Since the mower is restricted to .75, 1.25, and 2" at the minimum end I decided to stay with 2" this year given how hot it is already and how much dead grass was now gone. 90's in the day and 70's at night. Grass is already getting water deprived. Also I went to the University extension and they pretty much told me in Florida Organic fertilizer were going to be very hard to start my lawn on given my lot was full of pond dirt. Once established it might work, but for now need to continue with something in the 30-0-10 range given my lawn is still nitrogen deficient and pale green. Keep mulching it and each month apply a new round of compost/dirt. Then in about two years give the organics a try. The baby boy is not born yet. Coming in August so hoping he has a green lawn to lay in come August. Thank you for asking. |
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| Congratulations on your upcoming bundle of joy :-) I hope he has some nice grass to play on in a few years. Wow, it sounds like you have a great mower. I saw some fantastic looking Hondas at Sam's Club; maybe they're the same model you have--not sure of the model number, though. I have to stop by Sam's today, so I'll check. Others might disagree, but I think you made the right decision to stick to 2 inches if 1.25 inches is the next lowest setting. I think I lucked out with my older mower. It's probably not as good as your's, but it has 9 wheel settings and each setting varies the blade height by between 0.25 inches and 0.37 inches, depending on the setting. But I wonder if maybe you do have a setting between 1.25 and 2 inches, because for the longest time I thought my 9-setting mower had only 5 settings. You know, the height setting on my mower (and many mowers) is adjusted by switching a lever's position on a sprocket for each wheel. For the longest time, I thought the 5 spikes on the sprocket meant I only had 5 wheel positions to choose from. But I finally figured out just a couple months ago that you can also use the "valleys" between each spike, which gives me an additional 4 height positions--so 9 total. Regarding that problem about part of your yard having steep angles and sideways slopes, I read somewhere that steep slopes shouldn't be mowed either straight across in horizontal rows or in straight up-and-down rows because it's too easy to slip and lose control of the mower--and bye, bye foot when the blade catches it. And it's too easy for the mower to tip over sideways. Steep slopes are better managed by mowing diagonally in diagonal rows, according to what I read somewhere. |
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