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Bleeping Bleeping Poa A.

gsweater
11 years ago

Last fall, there were huge patches of PA in the section of my back yard where the children play. Sitting out with them afforded me a good deal of time to hand pick the PA seeds and all and toss them. I spot sprayed large patches with RU and reseeded. I then sprayed with Tenacity in the fall at rec levels in that area. I also did a blanket spray in Spring which did a real number on it when I followed up with spot sprays.

This spring, the weather is warmer than normal for the time of year and the Poa A is coming up. I would say the makeup is less than 5% of the lawn so far, compared to roughly 40% last year (I live next to a wetlands, lucky me). While only 5 or so percent, it's irking me.

What are your recommendations for post emergence control (commercial or licensed) to control PA on cool season grasses? Next, recommendations on Pre M? The back is primarily KBG with TTTF.

Thanks for the help guys.

Comments (5)

  • tiemco
    11 years ago

    Getting rid of poa annua is a pretty daunting task. Just a refresher for you and those who might not know. Poa annua is a winter annual. It mainly germinates in the late summer/early fall as soil temps fall (it can germinate in the spring as well). The new growth is difficult to see in the fall, it stays pretty small and doesn't seed. It lays dormant during the winter, and once temps in spring rise it is the first to start growing and producing tons of seeds. Killing it in spring is all well and good, but if it gets seed down, then they will wait till the fall to germinate. The seeds can also lay in wait for years. One of the main ways to control this weed is with regular and well timed pre M drops. Late summer is the most important drop for poa annua, but an early spring drop will kill those spring germinating seeds. Tenacity can produce good results as well when used in conjunction with a good pre M like Dimension. There is a new herbicide that is maybe a year or two away that's supposed to really put the hurt on poa called PoaCure. It's been tested for about 5 years now by golf course supers and the results look really good, so keep your fingers crossed. The problem with poa though is there are hundreds of ecotypes. It is very hardy, and seems to mutate quickly to adapt to new surroundings. Some varieties are perennials as well, which don't die in the summer. It's the reason why a lot of golf courses gave up on fighting it, and instead treating it as a desirable turf grass. After all the greens at Pebble Beach are poa annua.

  • gsweater
    Original Author
    11 years ago

    Thanks for the info - very helpful! I know I'll never get it to zero, but I'm sure as hell going to try.

  • enigma7
    11 years ago

    If you own Tenacity that is the way to go. I use Dimension early in the spring (For me in SE PA that was mid-March), and then followed up with an application of Tenacity this past Saturday. I like the staggered approach since we always seem to have unusual springs (either a massive quick warmup early in the pre-spring, Feb or so), or as in this year a VERY delayed spring where some weeds come up early, while the poa sits and waits.

    In either scenario you won't get everyone unless you stagger your applications. Dimension is great because it has a long soil life, while the Tenacity is unbeatable if you can get it on the growing weeds. Here's hoping in the next 2 weeks I'm almost weed free! (and you as well)

  • dchall_san_antonio
    11 years ago

    There are herbicide products for southern lawns which have atrazine in it. That stuff flat knocks out poa annua, and it does not return next year. However, many lawn grasses are sensitive to atrazine - it might also knock out your lawn. ...just food for thought.

  • auteck
    11 years ago

    You can Spray Dismiss herbicide on it for suppression and in some cases kill, but I must warm you, your lawn will look like it has brown patch or that you walked around with a bottle of Roundup spot and spraying... The good new, it won't hurt your cool season grass.