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What disease does my lawn have?
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jrodriguez90 No. VA (
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Thu, Jun 16, 11 at 9:33
| I first noticed this Monday, June 6th after being away for the weekend. With the exception of this past week, June has been very hot here in the DC area, so I thought maybe it was heat stress. But after watering and a week of cooler temps, nothing is changing. And looking at it yesterday I think there is some kind of a disease. Based on the pictures attached can anyone tell me what is going on? I also notice from the pictures that I need to sharpen my lawn mower blade.
Thanks!!! |
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RE: What disease does my lawn have?
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| When I click the link it takes me to my own Shutterfly pages, not yours. Not sure how to fix that. |
Lawn Pic1
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| I'm going to try posting the three pictures in seperate messages. Maybe that will work. |
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RE: What disease does my lawn have?
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| I can't really tell from the closeup pictures. However, with the spots on the leaves, it looks somewhat like brown patch. Maybe a picture more zoomed out? Did you ever notice a purple hue on your lawn before this cropped up? What kind of grass is it? Looks like fescue, somewhat. |
RE: What disease does my lawn have?
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| Thanks. Good pix. Yes you have a disease. What kind of grass is that? I was expecting a northern grass but it looks like St Augustine. In the first one you can see spots on the blades. This would be gray leaf spot if it is St Augustine. In the rest of the pictures it just looks brown with no spots. That would be take-all patch or take-all root rot. I'm going to send you back out to look more closely at the grass right at the ground. Is it dying from the soil up or from the tips down. Pull up some runners to see what they look like. Black runners obviously is not good. Black spots at the nodes of the runners means still another disease. The problem with disease in the heat is many fungicides will kill the grass or not work at all when applied on hot days. Read the label carefully before you buy anything. When you find out it is too hot to apply a chemical fungicide, there is an organic approach you can try. Ordinary corn meal has been found to cause many diseases to die off. The disease is not killed by the corn meal but by another fungus that is attracted to the corn meal. The application rate is at least 20 pounds per 1,000 square feet. You can use corn meal from the grocery store or you can look at your local feed stores (call first) for corn meal in a plain, 50-pound bag. Be sure they are not talking about corn GLUTEN meal. That is a different product. Corn is expensive this year so it might cost as much at $15 per bag (I used to buy it for $3). Corn meal takes three full weeks before you see any improvement. I would hit it with corn meal now and again in 3 weeks. Then evaluate in 6 weeks to see if it is working. If not, you have not lost anything, because you can't use the chemicals in the heat anyway. Plus you will find that corn meal is an organic fertilizer. Your remaining grass should be very deep green in 3-6 weeks. |
Thanks!
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| dchall - Thanks for the into! I will look more closely this evening when I get home from work. I don't beleive that there are any black runners, but I haven't looked close enough to notice if there are spots. I'll report back with what I find. Thanks for the heads up about the fungicide. I've got a bag sitting in my shed that I was thinking of putting down, but wanted to wait until I had a better idea of what is going on. I'll be sure to check the info on bag and the weather carefully. And quite frankly I may just go the corn meal route for the added fertilizer. In terms of the grass, well I'm not sure what is in that part of the yard. I bought the house in Nov '09 and overseeded that area in Sept '10 with a mix of 80% TTTF (Faith and Firecracker) with 20% KBG (Bedazzeled). But what was there already could very well be St Augustine. It does go somewhat brown in the winter. |
RE: What disease does my lawn have?
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| I don't think St. Aug can survive Northern Virginia winters. Just eyeballing it, the blades look a little thin to be St. Aug. too. Most likely it is fescue. Would need some higher res and zoomed out pics to really see what is going on. Dig up a patch of it and take it to a garden center as your best bet for getting it figured out quickly. Let us know what they tell you. |
RE: What disease does my lawn have?
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| where do you get the corn meal that you put on your lawn. I have brown patch disease, and the cornmeal in grocery store comes in to small of a bag and the ones at the feed store has gluten in it. Can you advise me. Thanks. |
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| So I looked a little closer yesterday and I did not see any black runners, nor did I see black spots. In terms of whether the blades dying from the bottom-up or from the top-down, it appears that they are dying top-down, although there did seem to be some places where I can see evidence of both. Does that help any further in the diagnosis? The weather here isn't supposed to be too hot over the next few days and we are supposed to get afternoon thunderstorms so I'm thinking I may put down the Fungicide (the temps should be within the requirement) and then follow-up in three weeks with an application of the corn meal. I truly appreciate the advice. Hopefully I can nip this in the bud before it really decimates my lawn. Thanks again dchall! |
RE: What disease does my lawn have?
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| Applying corn meal so soon after applying a chemical fungicide will not help. The fungus that grows on the corn meal will not grow if the fungicide is in the soil. One way around that is to apply compost at 1 cubic yard per 1,000 square feet about 3 weeks after the fungicide. Then put the corn meal down after that. Corn meal can be found at feed stores (call first and ask where to find ordinary corn meal). It can also be found in 25-pound sacks at grocery stores that cater to the Latin community. Be sure to get the plain corn meal or flour. Quite often they sell a product with baking powder and salt in it as a 'masa mix' or 'tortilla mix.' That is NOT what you want. Ask them for the plain stuff. Even in San Antonio I would have to go to the grocery stores in the south or west side of town to find these large bags. Again, call first. Actually, recheck your neighborhood grocery to see if they have a Mexican or Cuban food section. They might have a limited supply there. |
Put down Fungicide
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| So I put down the Fungicide on Friday and after a weekend of moderate temps (high 70s to low 80s) and a decent amount of rain, I think it is starting to work. Maybe its a placebo effect, but I think its already starting to improve. Its definitely not getting any worse, which is a step in the right direction. Thanks again dchall, I'll update this in 3 weeks and let everyone know how it is going. |
RE: What disease does my lawn have?
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| Just curious...what fungicide did you use and what rate? More specifically, what is the active ingredient in the fungicide product? |
RE: What disease does my lawn have?
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| Yes please let us know, and what fungicide you used. |
Fungicide
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| I used Scotts Lawn Fungus Control that I had picked up from HD. The active ingredient is Thiophanate-methyl. One bag is rated for 2500 sq feet at the "curative rate". It also tells you the spreader setting to use depending on which type you have. |
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