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Drought

Posted by dledeaux San Antonio, TX (My Page) on
Sat, Jun 25, 11 at 12:19

Living in drought stricken San Antonio, we're looking down the barrel of stage 3 water restrictions.

I have always only watered once a week, so stage 1 and 2 haven't been too much of a shift other than that I have to stop watering during the day with my soakers. I have a timer now that lets me use soakers during my allotted time on my allotted day of the week.

Once we hit stage 3 though, I'll only be able to water every other week.

So, I'm in preemptive damage control right now. What can I do to mitigate loss?

I've read that raising the mowing height helps. Is this a good start? Maybe reduce mowings to cut down on stress?


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RE: Drought

I guess I should follow up that I have bermuda


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You can raise the height up a bit to help evaporation losses, but do not get carried away. Assuming you have a hybrid no more than 2 inches. You have one huge advantage many of your neighbors do not have; you have Bermuda grass. Bermuda will just go dormant when it gets too dry, while most others just die especially Saint Augustine, and even Zoysia with extended drought. The Bermuda will come right back with wetter cooler weather.

Even with only watering once every two weeks, the Bermuda will still have a bit of green tint and be just fine. Look at the bright side you will not be out mowing twice a week in the heat. Just water when you can, and keep traffic off it as much as possible.


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Agreed, of course. Your bermuda will come right back.

You will notice our neighbors with St Augustine letting their lawns die. I have St Aug and am doing fine on the one day per week watering. I think most let it die because they have forced us to water in the dead of night (3am - 6am).


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@dchall: Would you think that one of the reasons your neighbors' lawns are dying may also have to do with not using an organic approach, or is it just simply from not watering at all in this horrific drought you are experiencing?


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The lawns I'm thinking of are dying from getting absolutely no water for months. I would be interesting to learn the motives behind not watering at all. There are many reasons. One is that some consider their lawn a chore rather than a hobby. If they stop watering, they chore stops. The community restrictions on watering gives them a convenient excuse.


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Dave IMHO a nice lawn is a luxury and/or a hobby where disposable income is used.

One thing I do not think people quite fully understand to have that Better Home & Gardens lawns requires a lot of water, and if rains do not supply that water it must be purchased. Water is the most expensive part of a lawn maintenance. as it cost a few thousand to install an irrigation system and monthly water bills which can be in excess of $100/month depending on the size of the lawn and location. So when times get tough, the lawn is the first thing to go because you do not need it.


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TW - Trees are very important so monthly very deep watering will keep them alive because lawn is not natural for trees and limited land space also is a factor.

No water for trees, they die. A lot more sun. Energy bill goes up big time.

Over time, I will gradually reduce the size of lawn and expand existing tree rings into large gardens filled with drought hardy plants.

But right now, i'm giving young trees more watering to speed up growth to achieve more shade rather sooner than later.


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Posted by texas-weed 7A (My Page) on Sun, Jun 26, 11 at 14:49

"Dave IMHO a nice lawn is a luxury and/or a hobby where disposable income is used."

TW: A nice lawn is an investment into the value of a home and property. If you don't believe me, just ask any real estate professional.


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TW: A nice lawn is an investment into the value of a home and property. If you don't believe me, just ask any real estate professional.

I know but you cannot eat your lawn when you are out of work and hungry. Just ask anyone who is out of work and struggling to feed their families.


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I don't have to ask anyone else, all I have to do is look in the mirror. I have been out of work before, I have struggled to feed my family...been there, done that.

Nowhere in this thread has anyone, except for you, talked about being out of work or unable to feed their family. The topic of this thread is water restrictions and its effect on home lawns. Once again, you've missed the point.


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As a real estate broker for over 10 yrs, I have to say a nice lawn IS a luxury. Unfortunately in this market you get almost no added value for a nice lawn. Curb appeal is important and may help you sell ahead of your neighbors, but you are incorrect to think you will get back what you put into it. There are many things you can do to keep up the curb appeal while sacrificing the lawn....keeping the bushes trimmed, grass/weeds cut, weeds out of beds to name few. I've worked with hundreds of buyers and none have mentioned the lawn as a reason to buy a particular home...not to say they don't mention a nice lawn while looking, but they are more interested in the home and location.


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Once again, we're off topic. But if you insist.

In a tight market such as this, curb appeal can be, and sometimes is, the difference in whether or not a home is purchased. Discriminating buyers want a full package value for their investment, and an attractive landscape certainly is part of that consideration.

As a real estate client for over 30 years, I know what I'm looking for in a property value, and a poorly kept lawn can be, and has been, cause for me to not favor a particular property. When you put time, effort, and money into your landscape and lawn, and your propert sells partially because of the attractive landscape, and the buyer points that out as a reason why they purchased the home, then you can well better believe that you are getting back what you have put into it. That scenario may not exist in your world, but it certainly does exist in mine. The care and appearance on the outside is usually a reflection of what is on the inside. That has been my experience.

When you deal with high-profile, private gated communities like I have over the past 24 years, you understand what is desired and expected by high value discriminating buyers. You and I may be interacting with different levels of clientele.

And quite frankly, my standard and attention-to-detail is usually beyond the comprehension of others.

So, can we please get back on the topic of the drought conditions of the OP and how to help them keep from having a dead lawn. Texas-weed was giving some positive advice to the OP before I started rambling, when in fact I should have kept my mouth shut. There really is a good reason why we have 2 ears and only 1 mouth. We should be listening twice as much as we speak. I need to keep learning that lesson.


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So, can we please get back on the topic of the drought conditions of the OP and how to help them keep from having a dead lawn. Texas-weed was giving some positive advice to the OP before I started rambling

OK the advice is water if you have disposable income. Otherwise use the money for higher priorities.


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Hey Weed. Going back to when you first replied about the luxury of having a lawn...and tying it into the topic, it doesn't matter how much luxury you can afford in San Antonio. We are not allowed to water except for 7 hours on one day per week. When the next level of drought kicks in, we will be allowed to water for 7 hours, one day every 2 weeks.

The way our water pricing works, I don't think cost is an issue. The drought and the ordinance written to stop wasting water is the issue.

Sprinkler systems are not generally needed here. The normal lawn is on the order of 50 feet by 30 feet. One or two moves on an oscillator sprinkler will cover them easily. And I find the 7 hour limit to be generous. Larger lawns come with upper income homes where no luxury seems to be too luxurious.


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"Larger lawns come with upper income homes where no luxury seems to be too luxurious."

Yes, and those are the attitudes of the clients I deal with on a daily basis. When you deal with those types of attitudes on a daily basis like I do, you sometimes forget about the struggles of those who are less fortunate. I seem to have fallen into that category. I need to remind myself what it was like not that long ago.


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Thanks for the comments ... what about fertilization? Last year I followed the bermuda bible in regards to fertilization, but I don't know what the real relationship is between watering and fertilization.

Does having a consistent fertilization regimen increase the need for water? Or is it the other way around?


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I know there is a long discussion on surfactants on here. Very interesting stuff.

I'm not trying to make this a discussion about surfactants, but more trying to compile a bit of information people can reference for their own drought endangered lawn.

So, one thing I have noticed when watering by hand is that at first a lot of the water runs off. This is especially bad for me, because my lawn is sloped. Additionally run-off is a cardinal sin in San Antonio as it is considered water waste and you can be fined for it.

So this is something else I'm going to try. I just want to encourage deep root growth, and if I can get water deeper down with less water, then I'm game.

Here is a link that might be useful: Surfactant Discussion


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Even though I have never tried it, dchall has consistently promoted the use of generic baby shampoo for the purpose of softening the soil and thus making the softer soil more receptive to the intake of water for penetrating into the root zone. You might try that as a less expensive first step for making more effective use of your water. If you go to the Organic Lawn Care forum FAQ's, and near the bottom there is a section written by dchall that discusses all aspects of his generic baby shampoo program.


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Thanks for the comments ... what about fertilization? Last year I followed the bermuda bible in regards to fertilization, but I don't know what the real relationship is between watering and fertilization.

When it gets hot and dry with water restrictions you need to back off or even suspend fertilizing until wetter cooler conditions return like late summer or early fall. Forcing the grass to grow when it does not want to is not a good thing.

Now if water is not an issue and you do not mind mowing in the heat, go ahead and fertilize if you have Bermuda. But IMHO it would be better to reduce fertilizing amounts in half, raise the cutting height and both you and the grass take it easy during the hottest months.


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Another way to get more water into the soil is to slow way down on the watering application rate. For example if you put one drop of water on the soil, it would soak in. If you put another one on it immediately, it might not soak in immediately, but if you apply it 20 seconds later, it likely will. In other words, watering fast may not be viable until the soil is more receptive. My sprinkler system takes a full 8 hours to apply one inch. That is the slowest I've seen. Some sprinklers dump 1 inch in 20 minutes. I don't see how a lawn could possibly absorb that much water in 20 minutes, but many can.


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