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Sun, Jun 24, 12 at 12:22
| I seeded La prima Bermuda almost a week ago. I can see the bermuda coming in but I am also seeing a lot of weed looking type plants coming in. I know La prima is two different types of seed but I need an opinion on wether this is actual bermuda or a weed. Most of the yard is covered in it now. I am watering a lot, twice a day and the texas heat hits about 98 daily.
So is this La prima? |
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- Posted by dchall_san_antonio 8 San Antonio (My Page) on Sun, Jun 24, 12 at 13:12
| I see bermuda seedlings and a broadleaf plant. Is there something else I should be seeing. Is it the broadleaf plant you are asking about? That is not a grass of any kind. As far as you are concerned, it is a week. Pluck them out for now until the bermuda is established and then you can spray a selective plant killer like Weed-b-gone to kill only the broadleaf plants. Those will be a real problem because they provide direct shade low to the bermuda, thus shading it out. |
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- Posted by texas-weed 7A (My Page) on Sun, Jun 24, 12 at 15:24
| The fine bladed grass is Bermuda. The rest is weeds. |
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- Posted by KubotaMaster 7A-Arkansas (My Page) on Mon, Jun 25, 12 at 10:15
| I see bermuda and what looks like shrub seedlings I have a hedge bush that grows seedlings that look just like those. Got any hedge rows in your yard near this growth? |
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| @kubotamaster...... I dont have any hedges. Im annoyed because these seedlings are taking over the whole yard exactly where I broadcasted the La prima Bermuda seed. Almost to the point where I am wondering if this seed was mixed in with the bermuda. I mean the whole yard is pretty much these little seedlings. I ordered the seed from Outsidepride.com. I wonder if anyone else has had this problem with seed like this. |
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| I ordered 10 lbs of la prima XD from them last week, is that what you got??? |
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| It's hard to tell but looks like it could be Purslane to me. I had the exact issue 7-8 years ago when I planted P77 purchased from seedland.com. For now, mow it as soon as you're comfortable putting a mower on it. As I recall, the mowing doesn't kill it, the stuff just spreads out instead of growing up. At least it doesn't throw much shade when cut lower. It's not hard to kill once you get to the point of using herbicides. I don't recall ever seeing a seeded lawn that didn't have weeds. Dealing with weeds is part of the process of establishing a lawn from seeds. |
Here is a link that might be useful: Purslane
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- Posted by KubotaMaster 7A-Arkansas (My Page) on Mon, Jun 25, 12 at 13:22
| @David I agree beat me to it. From what I understand some sod companies mix clippings that may or may not contain somekind of purslane for ground mulch. On the brite side its edible. And it may also be leafy splurge which is poisonous they look alike. |
Here is a link that might be useful: Old gardenweb discussion on this plant/weed
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- Posted by texas-weed 7A (My Page) on Mon, Jun 25, 12 at 15:23
| As with any seeded lawn attempt, weeds are going to happen, especially when you disturb the soil. With Bermuda it is not that big of a deal in the long term. Just keep it mowed, fed,and watered properly. Come Fall and next Spring you can attack any weed problems that are left over. |
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- Posted by dchall_san_antonio 8 San Antonio (My Page) on Mon, Jun 25, 12 at 21:15
| Can you please explain how you prepped the soil for the seed? Maybe there is something you overlooked that will comfort others thinking about seeding bermuda right now. |
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| I had rye grass planted during the winter. It died off in the heat a few weeks ago. I used round up and sprayed and killed everything and waited about three weeks. I tilled it about an inch or two, not too deep. I leveled it out, spread the seed, and rake it slightly so that it was about 1/4 inch covered with the soil. I then used a roller and rolled it flat and then watered the hell out of it. The interesting thing is, the company sent me two bags of seed to equal ten pounds. The first bag I spread is pretty much all bermuda with no weeds. The second bag I spread is very little bermuda and all of these weeds popping out. It's crazy, almost like that second bag of seed was full of bad seed. Anyway, it was regular La Prima not the XD. Im pretty frustrated. Im going to keep watering and see what happens. If its not good by the middle of July I may just sod. Sigh, it's at 11 days now and kind of looks like crap. |
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- Posted by texas-weed 7A (My Page) on Tue, Jun 26, 12 at 22:48
| 11 days? Be patient. |
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| Thanks Texas. I know. So Im not going to worry about those weeds and do like you said and attack those weeds in the spring and fall. Thanks for the reassurance. |
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| I would take more pics and try to get your money back, that seed is not cheap, and to get a yard full of weeds seems like a rip off. If the same happens with the XD I just got I will harass them nonstop. |
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| Sam, prepare yourself. You ARE going to see lots of weeds. There is nothing you can do about it. The label on your seed says that it contains 0.05% of weed seed. That's not the problem. The problem is the wind and the weeds all over your part of the world that are going to seed. Resign yourself to seeing weeds. Understand that it's normal and is all part of starting a lawn from seed. |
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| Prepare your seed bed. Broadcast your seed of choice in one half, and broadcast NOTHING in the other. I'd bet your left nut there are weeds in each half. |
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| Well here is the yard now. Nothing but weeds and few bermuda patches here and there. I cut the high weeds today, there is just way to many to hand pull. What do yall think? Keep going with this? |
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| I'll assume you've mowed it as short as you can... I'm a trial and error guy. Mix up some herbicide and spot spray a few small trial areas. See what happens. You'll either like the results or you won't. If you don't like it, it was only a couple of small areas anyway. Darn near everything I know about Bermuda was learned this way. |
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| Can you post a picture of the label on your bag of seeds? Also put up a pic of the lawn from further out so we can make out the big picture. |
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- Posted by KubotaMaster 7A-Arkansas (My Page) on Mon, Jul 2, 12 at 8:41
| Thats just to much looks like something that was allready in the soil before you seeded to me. I have bought some crappy bagged bermuda seed before but nothing like this. I.M.O I would suggest taking all the pics you took and call the place you purchased this grass seed and request a refund if this is all that was in that bag. I agree with "samlawn" above me here. We need a wider picture to get the overall idea of what this may be. |
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- Posted by KubotaMaster 7A-Arkansas (My Page) on Mon, Jul 2, 12 at 8:59
| And on a 2nd note I have purchased over 800lbs of LaPrima from outsidepride.com (I own my own lawncare service if anyone is wondering why so much I do alot of overseeding) and the only other seed thats supposed to be in with the seed is SR 9554 bermuda grass seed and less than .03% weed seed thats what makes me believe whatever this is you have growing was allready their. |
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| I have lived here four years and never had that weed. I killed everything before I seeded. Never have we had anything like this before. I think I got a bag of bad seed. The first bag I seeded is fine. The second bag is this weed exactly where I put it. I called them and emailed them. No response. |
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| Heres a big picture. Its a nightmare pretty much |
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- Posted by texas-weed 7A (My Page) on Tue, Jul 3, 12 at 17:50
| You got yourself a bag of mislabeled seed. |
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- Posted by KubotaMaster 7A-Arkansas (My Page) on Wed, Jul 4, 12 at 9:33
| Id say it was mislabeled almost looks like basil plants from this far away. |
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| Wow... I'm laying down my outsidepride.com seeds this weekend, I'll post results here. I hope they resolve this for you! |
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| So, there is some Bermuda in that somewhere, right? Like I said earlier, I'd test spray a few spots with WBG. In fact, I'd be really tempted to spray the whole thing now that I see the big picture. I know it's hot and it's new grass but if you get high enough pressure in a pump sprayer and set the nozzle to a fine mist, I think you have more than enough weed canopy to protect the Bermuda. |
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| Good luck Samlawn. Let me know how it goes. Im pretty bummed. All that freaking work. There is a few small patches of Bermuda in there. I think at this point Im going to kill it all and just sod. The whole process had made me frustrated and now these people aren't responding to my inquiries. Blah |
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| I'm on day 5 now and no weeds or grass yet. I will update here when I see something. Any word from outsidepride.com yet? Question for you: You said in your first post that it was almost a week ago, but then 2 days later you said it had been 11 days. Is the first picture from under or over a week? |
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| No word from outside pride yet. I seeded on June 16. Good luck with yours. I was thinking about you today actually wondering how its going. So Im going to round up tomorrow. Do Ya'll think its ok to sod a week later? |
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| I've heard lots of things regarding waiting after roundup, anywhere from 1 week to 3 weeks to just till after it rains. That's really a shame that you have to deal with this. I would still pursue them because even if the seed didn't cost $1k, think about all the time labor and materials that cost you, not to mention what it would have cost if you had hired someone to do it! I would be furious after all that prep work. I'm practically a nervous wreck waiting for *something* to start growing. |
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| I updated my other thread too (broadcasting bermuda seed) but here is day 10. No basil infestations yet. Although the areas that didn't get much topsoil (other side of driveway) are getting lots of weed growth. |
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| Here is the weedy side. The only measurable bermuda growth is here in the front, but it's pretty thin here and there throughout. Any noticeable green beyond the front area is weeds. |
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- Posted by dchall_san_antonio 8 San Antonio (My Page) on Tue, Jul 17, 12 at 19:42
| KRaye1, you might call OUTSIDEPRIDE.COM back and mention that you have posted this at GardenWeb, complete with pictures, and people are taking notice of the poor product and poor response from OUTSIDEPRIDE.COM. It looks like you received a bag of herb seed instead of La Prima bermuda seed. The OUTSIDEPRIDE.COM website says you must notify them of your warranty claim by registered mail. It would seem you could head something like that off with persistent phone calls, but you never know what kind of business practices OUTSIDEPRIDE.COM might follow. |
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