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Slip 'n Slide and kiddie pool burned my grass?

lana_lang
9 years ago

So, here's the story. Sorry it's kind of long:

We had a trusty Wham-O slip 'n slide for a couple of years, and never had any issues with the lawn because of it. This year, we had to replace it because it was damaged. We got a new slip n slide and used it for our daughter's birthday party, and the grass underneath was fine. We drained it, and left it sitting in a heap on a different part of the lawn, starting at about 7 pm. and left it there until the next day. When I picked it up the next morning, to my horror, all the grass underneath was crispy and yellow and dead! (Now, we've left slip n slides out for a good 24 hours in the past, and sometimes the grass would start to yellow a bit, but never turn dry and crispy and die!) I was shocked. And that patch of grass never recovered. In fact, it seemed drier and deader two days AFTER the birthday party. Now it's all dead.

Fast forward a few weeks later, we bought a cheap plastic molded kiddie pool at Walmart and left it turned upside-down, half on the lawn, and half propped up on the patio in the evening. The next day, the small part of the lawn that had been sitting directly under the edge of the pool was yellow and crispy as well! And it got worse even after we moved the pool.

So, now I'm wondering a couple of things:

1) Is there be some kind of new chemical being used in these products that could be killing my grass when exposed for long periods of time? I don't think it's greenhouse effect, just because most of the time it's been on the lawn has been at night.

2) The type of grass we have is different than the grass we've used a slip n slide on in the past. Could different varieties of grass be more sensitive to plastic? I don't know what type of grass we have, but I do know that it's different than our old grass.

any insight would be great!

Comments (10)

  • dchall_san_antonio
    9 years ago

    St Augustine is extremely sensitive to having the air shut off above it. If that is what you have, you could treat the yellow/dead looking areas with corn meal at a rate of 20 pounds per 1,000 square feet.

    I should have asked where you live. SoCal or NorCal are not nearly explicit enough. Calif has too many soil types and microclimates close together for those to work.

  • socks
    9 years ago

    Interesting...how does corn meal help?

  • dchall_san_antonio
    9 years ago

    If it is a fungal disease, which it would be if this is St Augustine, corn meal attracts a predatory fungus called trichoderma (try koh DER mah). The trichoderma builds up on the corn meal as it decomposes. Once the corn meal is decomposed the trichoderma takes off and kills out other nearby surface fungi. I have used it successfully every year since 2002 on my St Aug.

  • hippy
    9 years ago

    Corn meal has some benefits for lawns.

    It is said that corn meal is good for fungal control. This has been greatly debated over the years and it has more NO than YES votes.

    It is good for soil conditioning and feeding your lawn. It may do it. But I have not found enough evidence backing it to go out and start applying it to the lawn yet.

    Learn to make compost tea and does the best job if you are into organics.

  • dchall_san_antonio
    9 years ago

    hippy, It would seem that there is no chemical fungicide at all safe to use in the summer heat. If you think you have a fungus issue, the only thing left to use is organic. The organic community has been very satisfied with corn meal for nearly 20 years now. I'm not sure how greatly debated it is, but corn meal is the only reason I have a lawn. It was being consumed by fungus for all of 2001. By the time I tried the corn meal I had all but given up. Three weeks after the corn meal, I had new grass growing where it had been dead for months.

    Compost tea cannot be made in the summer. The purpose of compost tea is to extract beneficial aerobic microbes from compost, feed them in the presence of bubbled oxygen for 24 hours, and immediately spray that tea on the garden. The problem with doing that in the summer is that water at temperatures higher than 80 degrees cannot hold enough oxygen to support any aerobic biological life. It doesn't matter how much air you bubble through, the fact of chemistry is that warm water cannot hold enough oxygen. As soon as you put the compost into warm water, the beneficial aerobic microbes begin to die.

  • lana_lang
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    Interesting. I've never heard of cornmeal for lawns before!

    I live in Northern California, near Sacramento. Hmm... I wonder if my grass is St. Augustine.

  • morpheuspa (6B/7A, E. PA)
    9 years ago

    +1 on the corn meal. Although I find it's better as a preventative than curative (my fungal shield went down in early May and with daily rainfall I'm the only one without brown patch and Pythium blight again this year).

    Raise amounts for a curative to 20 pounds per thousand (10 per K is sufficient as a preventative) as David mentioned.

    Are either of those plastic pieces partially transparent--and the old one was opaque? It's possible you accidentally solarized the grass, which really dislikes temperatures over 120 or so. I have some difficulty with the area three feet around my driveway due to solarization effects during the summer, although in winter that area never really stops growing due to the heat--and that doesn't trap solar energy in a solar greenhouse the way a semi-clear plastic will.

    If the roots got baked, there's no cure for solarization. If just the tips did and the roots are OK, generally watering appropriately will bring it back.

  • polyguy78
    9 years ago

    It's actually very simple. Slip and Slides and kiddie pools cause two issues. #1 Create an environment which doesn't allow the turf leaves to properly transpire, thus literally cooking the turf. #2 No light.

    #1 is the primary culprit in the warmer months and for some turfgrasses, it's a death sentence; for others just a 'burning' of the topgrowth. In California's many climates ( not the desert ) most any turf type will do well if given the right maintenance. As most residential turf in California is tall fescue, the odds are that this is what you have. Unfortunately TF's very likely not to survive either a slip and slide or wading pool ( if left on the turf for a period of a few days ). Especially in high heat. For grasses that feature underground rhizomes; ie KBluegrass and Bermuda, they too will burn but will recover with time.
    Bottom line, it has nothing to with what the products were made with, or the soil, or fertilizer. It's just been 'smothered' to death! Next time just don't leave the play toys on the lawn! PG78

  • Layla Schreiner
    6 years ago

    I had the same problem with the slip n slide I purchase at wal mart (not that it is a bad thing), but it was only on the lawn for 2 hours if that, and after the grandkids and I used it, I hung it up on the clothes line to dry. It was not brown when I picked it up but was the next day. Only two hours!!!

  • Johana M
    5 years ago
    I’m experiencing the same thing I only had the slip n slide out on our lawn for two-three hours and it’s thinned and dried out. The worst part is that I had resod my entire front and side yard in April