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| This is my first post and my first time responsible for a 1000 sqft lawn. So please excuse me if I sound like an idiot.
I live in Southern California. My zip code is 91730, which it is part of the Inland Empire. I believe it is designated zone 12, but regardless it is your typical dessert climate. Currently, my lawn looked like gangrenous nuclear disaster zone. It is filled with dead patches and sporting three different colors: brown, blue green and yellow green. The parts that are currently not in necrosis can be identified as Fescue, but it has not been overseeded for at least 10 years. I read on the forum that Bermuda grass is ideal for decent traffic and they are low maintenance, which sounds great. Though honestly, my lawn gets next to no traffic and my water bill is sucking me dry. My hope is that there is a type of seed where I can just overseed my old lawn and the new breed will eventually take over. But at the same time, the new breed should not take over my neighbors�f lawn, since my neighbor's lawn and mine are connected. Most importantly, I hope the new breed will significantly disappoint the accountants at Cucamonga Vally Water District. Nevertheless I rather be hopeless than advice-less. So please, I humbly beg for any scrap of knowledge that would make me a greener thumb. Thank you in advance, Alan Lee |
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| Whoever told you Bermuda is low maintenance is incorrect. Bermuda grows very quickly and many varieties require cutting every few days (although there are some varieties that you can grow longer, thus requiring less mowing like Tifton 10). Bermuda also likes monthly fertilizer applications during the growing season. Bermuda, while somewhat drought tolerant, requires water, more than you get in the desert, so you will have to irrigate. You will also have to water daily if you establish it from seed, or if you have sod laid. The hybrid varieties, those that are sodded or sprigged, are generally the best performing varieties. Seeded ones, like Yukon, Riveria, Princess 77, etc., can be nice as well, but again not as nice as the hybrids. Looking at your average weather leads me to believe you are a bit late if you are planning to seed Bermuda, although you can put sod down at anytime since you don't get frozen ground where you are. It might be a good idea to contact some landscapers to see what they recommend, as well as you local extension office, and area golf course superintendents. Another thing you can do is look around your neighborhood. If you see a lawn you really like try to figure out what it is, or even ask what it is. |
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- Posted by dchall_san_antonio 8 San Antonio (My Page) on Thu, Aug 18, 11 at 10:41
| While I realize you are in a warm climate, I also realize thousands of homes in SoCal have that fescue you have. You would think water just fell from the skies in SoCal. Bermuda is good for heavy traffic like football fields. Mowing maintenance is extra high for bermuda if you don't want it to look shaggy. 2x per week is good at your mower's lowest setting. Water can be withheld from bermuda and it will come back, but it will not look good when it is dormant/dry. It also has a monthly fertilizer requirement if you want it to look nice. You want something that can be seeded. Bermuda is the only southern grass that can be seeded and look nice. There are some seeded buffalo grass varieties but when they are mature, they look like a weed patch by the side of the road. Why? Because that is where the seeds come from. The hybrid, sod varieties of buffalo are very nice, but they might interfere with your neighbor. The one in California is called UC Verde. Check with your local nurseries and see if they sell it. Also ask them to see an installation of it. Buffalo grass does not need the excessive fertilizer and can be left unmowed longer than bermuda. It will not die from drought and usually can go longer than bermuda before becoming dormant (I think I have that right). The problem with the hybrid buffalo is they spread...into your neighbor's lawn. Assuming your neighbor still has fescue, there is really nothing to offer besides fescue that will not spread across. You might consider installing a concrete curb between you and him. Here's a picture of a lawn in the Texas Panhandle with a concrete curb barrier.
There are some non traditional grasses you might look into. Blue grama is a prairie grass which, when planted densely like fescue, and mowed every few weeks, can look like an excellent lawn. Here is a picture of a blue grama lawn from the High Country Gardens website. Note that it is not a pure blue grama lawn and has a few weeds in it.
Blue grama rarely needs water or fertilizer and can go monthly without mowing before you get the seed heads. The only thing is that it is a bunch grass like fescue and does not spread to fill in if something happens. You might need to continue overseeding until you get the density needed to keep weeds out. On the plus side, weeds need water and with blue grama, you don't need to water it after it is established - at least not in your part of SoCal. At least you get the February rains. |
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| Wow, I am overwhelm by the amount of information! Thank you dchall and teimco for the help. I am very grateful for the information. I will see if I can locate a nursery and see what I can find. So it seems like Burmuda is not the best way to go. So its either fescue, blue gama or a hybrid. Or something that looks like fescue, but capable of taking over the entire neighborhood without anyone noticing it.... Thank you all again! |
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- Posted by bassplayer7 6 (My Page) on Thu, Aug 18, 11 at 17:43
| I wonder how blue grama would do with most herbicides. I don't remember seeing it on labels. Obviously the goal would be not to need any herbicides but there may still come that time. |
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- Posted by dchall_san_antonio 8 San Antonio (My Page) on Fri, Aug 19, 11 at 13:53
| Good question bassplayer. The local expert on blue grama is bpgreen. He's had it in his yard in Salt Lake City for years. |
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| I haven't really used herbicides in years because I've got clover in my lawn and the herbicides would kill it. I think you can use 2,4d on blue grama, but it should be used sparingly and you shouldn't use herbicides that include other herbicides with 2,4d. If it gets cool enough in the winter for the grama to go dormant, you can spray glyphosate once the lawn is dormant. But make sure the grass is COMPLETELY dormant first, or you could kill the grass, also. Although blue grama is a bunch type grass, it will spread slowly if it's watered and mowed. It spreads via tillers, rather than rhizomes, so new plants sprout right next to an existing plant. So it won't spread to fill in large bare spots, but will spread slowly from the center of a plant. I really like the looks of blue grama. It's a lighter green than something like KBG or tall fescue, but it's fine bladed and soft. |
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- Posted by lazygardens PhxAZ%3A Sunset 13 (My Page) on Fri, Aug 19, 11 at 21:18
| Consider Buffalo Grass .. the UC Verde variety sold for SoCal as plugs. http://lazygardens.blogspot.com/search/label/buffalo grass AFTER it's established, which takes a couple of months, it needs far less water than Bermuda, and far less mowing. If you like a silky meadow, you can leave it unmowed. In AZ, I'm watering every 10 days and mowing about every two weeks. Bermuda would need watering every 3 days and mowing twice a week. It's a spreading grass, but not nearly as bad as Bermuda because it only spreads above ground. Kill off the fescue first, then plug the UC verde. |
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