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For dchall_san_antonio Help with my SOD

Posted by holeshot1 9a-9b (My Page) on
Wed, Aug 8, 12 at 19:12

On 9 June 2012 I laid new sod tall Fescue with Blue Grass mixed. I live in Las Vegas NV.I was told to water it 3 times a day for 7 min at a time 6am, 12pm, 4pm which I did.The grass rooted and was beautiful.I was cutting it at 3&1/2 ins, even bought new Honda mower.Then came my troubles I was told to water it 2 times a day for 10 mins each watering morning and evening.It started to get brown areas in certain spots which started spreading, also I was mulching the grass with the mower.I then read that I might have brown spot or dollar spot fungus,so this past Saturday 4 Aug, I went and bought 50lbs of cornmeal and applied it to the lawn at 20lb per 1000 sq ft.,and started to bag the grass.I also bought a new Weathermatic controller with the Wireless Remote Sensor which gets the weather download every evening at 11.55pm for the next day for my Zip Code. I programed the controller to water every other day it is supposed to be able to to determine how long for the sprinklers to run, because it takes in the temperature and humidity for the days in between watering's and then adjusts itself.The model # for the Weathermatic Controller is SL 1600, and the weather station is SLW15.Now my question is what do I do to try and get my grass back in shape the way it was after I laid the sod.I am pretty sure that I caused all these problems by over watering the sod. Attached are some pictures of my lawn..I Am also having problems with my front yard which was sodded in October 2011 pictures 442,thru 445 are of my front yard the rest are my back yard, any help would be appreciated.( also my yard was rototilled to 8 inch's and a new sprinkler system was installed with head to head coverage using rainbird 1800 series bodies and spray heads.I know that Fescue is a cool season grass, but that is what they use out here or Bermuda which I had before and goes dormant in the fall, and spreads into the garden. The temps out here now very from the high 90's to 114,with night time temps in the 80's to high 90's. Desperate Help For Some Help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Attached is a link to my photos on PhotoBucket

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RE: For dchall_san_antonio Help with my SOD

For anyone reading this, you absolutely cannot imagine the heat in LV this time of year. They talk about walking outside into an oven, but that does not convey the heat impact to me. Imagine 115 to 120 during the day and 105 degrees F at midnight. If you get into the pool to cool off, when you get out you freeze, because the humidity is under 10%. They say, "it's not the heat it's the humidity." Well, when it is that hot, then yes it is the heat. By 10am it's back up over 100.

If I'm right you do not have a problem. I think what's happening is the bluegrass has gone dormant (normal in extreme heat) and the fescue would like to. The KBG may have gone straight to dead because it really does not like high heat. In some places it is all dried out, dead, and gone.

The dead give away, so to speak, is in the corner where your sprinkler is and your foot is trying to peek into the picture. Concrete holds heat all night long and dries the soil much more there than elsewhere. That corner picture shows what I'm talking about. It is getting additional heat all night from two sides. I run a soaker hose adjacent to my asphalt driveway in the desert. That helps a lot.

Have you measured how much water your sprinklers put out? Get several tuna or cat food cans and run your sprinklers until the cans fill up. That is your starting point. Put some of the cans right next to the sprinklers, because some sprinklers throw water out and do not water adjacent to themselves.

Also how would you characterize your soil? Is is dune sand, sand with minor rubble (pea gravel), sand with considerable rubble, or anything else? Did they bring in anything besides sand/rubble when the house was built?


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Well, I guess you do still have a problem. We won't know what to do about it until we know if the KBG is going to come back. You won't know that for weeks. Corn meal certainly will not hurt anything, but I don't think there is a disease going on.

Once you know how much water your sprinkler is putting out, then you can work to manage it. The lawn needs an inch of water per week. In LV it might need to be watered 2x per week but for longer than you are watering now. Or if your soil cannot hold any moisture, it might need to be watered every day as the soil dries completely down several inches in your low humidity, heat, and wind. We'll know more after you check your system.


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RE: For dchall_san_antonio Help with my SOD

Hi Guys!
New to this site...but I was so excited when I saw this posting...I'm kind of in the same trouble. I'm gonna piggy back onto this one, so I hope it's okay....Also in Vegas, new sod was put down the first week of June. Everything was great up until about 2 weeks ago. We started getting these brown patches. I'm wondering if it's a fungus. The grass isn't dead, just browning. And some patches the grass looks like a strange greenish-grayish color. I hope you can see my pictures...I water 2 times a day. Once at 5.15am for 15-20 minutes. Again in the evening, around 7pm, for the same amount of time. I cut back on the watering and the grass started looking worse. I don't want to water a fungus, but I also don't want to loose all the grass from not watering. I use sprinklers and I make sure that the whole yard gets water. I put some corn meal down just in case, about a week ago. But I don't know what to do. The pictures include what our "soil" looks like. I thought it was sand but the landscapers stated it was a sand/mulch mix. I know the sod they laid was called "emerald carpet" but I'm going to head to the nursery today to see if I can find out specifics on that and also how much I should water....help too??!!!

Here is a link that might be useful: my backyard pics


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Skipper you need to measure the output of your sprinklers. If they are putting out an inch in 20 minutes, that is one thing. If they are putting out an inch in 8 hours, that's another. Use cat food or tuna cans and time how long it takes to fill them.

One of your close ups looked like a fungus but generally it looked dry. Fungus can cause it to look dry. Corn meal is a good start.

Your sand is good. You will never feel the need to aerate!! When it is full of pea gravel, then you have problems. Yours will hold moisture at least for a little while. Sandy soil can use all the organic fertilizer you can throw at it. Again, corn meal is a good start.

Did your pieces of sod knit into the sand? Can you pull up the sod anywhere? By now it should all be firmly stuck to the sand.


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First, thank you for responding!!! Yeah, when they delivered the "soil", I called up the landscaping company, because I was at work when they delivered it, and said, "uh, I think they delivered sand, not soil". She laughed and said it was vegas soil....LOL!!! I measured the amount of water, and in 20 minutes I got about half an inch of water. It seems all the sod "took". I went around a few weeks ago and pulled up on various locations and nothing moved (Thank God)! And if you pull up on the yellow areas, it feels good and secure. I took my little hand rake and raked thru the yellow spots, and nothing comes out - like if it was completely dead you know the dead grass comes right out. Sorry, I'm knew to this, back in Chicago you didn't have to work hard on grass!! LOL!!! I went to star nursery yesterday, I've got a tall fescue - "emerald carpet". He also said to keep watering heavy since it's new grass. He told me to use a product called "Fung Away" and also a fertilizer called "7-7-7 Triple Play". I need more fung away though since I ran out of it and wasn't even done with the grass. But, how soon after I do the fung away, can I fertilize? Can I do the corn meal and fung away? He also mentioned mowing the grass in 3 different directions, then taking the lawn mower and power washing the bottom of it, and spraying with a bleach water to kill any fungus that might be left on the mower. He said to water it for 45 minutes 2/day. Does that sound good to you? Or, can I do a heavy water every other day and the in between days do a lighter watering? Such as Monday-heavy, Tuesday-lighter, Wednesday-heavy....THANK YOU AGAIN!!!!!!!


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That sounds obsessive/compulsive, but it will not hurt anything...except maybe the water.

Topsoil is always a local product. Down here it is limestone rubble. In FL it is sand. You got your local version. I like sand. I order it any time I need fill. The best grass I have is on 6 inches of sand.

Once you use a chemical fungicide, then anything you do with corn meal is purely for the fertilizer effect. The anti fungal effect of corn meal depends on a very healthy population of fungi in the soil. If you use a fungicide, then you don't have that.

45 minutes 2x per day is 2 inches per day. That is very likely waaaaaay too freakin much. I would think that 45 minutes in the morning would be plenty to get it through to the next day - even in Las Vegas sand. Normal is considered to be 1 inch per week in the heat of summer but also normal is not considered 115 in the daytime/95 degrees at night/with 10% humidity.


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