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Overseeding was a success...now preparing for winter?

Posted by ATekk 6nj (My Page) on
Wed, Sep 21, 11 at 17:00

First off thank you for everyone that has helped me during my lawn renovation. The seedlings have come up nice and full and the lawn is already starting to look great two weeks in.

I still have some time till my first mowing, after which I was going to do a full application of starter fertilizer. After that what else should I do to prepare the new grass for the winter so that it comes in even better in the spring. I am aware of the general best practices and applications from other threads but was wondering what changes for newer/recently seeded grass. Still apply Pre-M? Unique fertilizer application?

Thanks!


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RE: Overseeding was a success...now preparing for winter?

My seedlings are just coming up in my lawn renovation. I too would be interested in a product to apply to my lawn in November for Winter.

Suggestions experts? :)


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RE: Overseeding was a success...now preparing for winter?

Congrats, mine have come up its been 3 weeks so some of the grass is pretty long but the new seedlings are just a bit short still - im itching to mow LOL. Anyway my plan is to hit it with starter fertilizer again after i do the first mow, then wait a month and hit it again with turfbuilder then maybe one more time before the first frost - this last one would be my winterizer, i did it last year and at the start of spring my lawn greened up great and did really well into the summer heat. Ive also started to use milorganite every month to try and add some organics back into the soil, i used it for the first time during summer and it helped my lawn gradually (v slowly) turn a dark green, much darker than the neighbors. Good luck!


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Thank you kevingalaxy. I was thinking to follow your similar procedure but was concerned with fertilizer burn or something of the sort because of the grass being younger and not as established, but if you have positive prior experience that sounds good to me.

Are you still applying milogranite? Along with the synthetic applications? I have read most people saying that they apply milogranite during the summer but no one has mentioned why they just specified "summer". Is there something I am missing with absorption levels for milogranite and why most people don't use it after the summer months?

Thank you!


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RE: Overseeding was a success...now preparing for winter?

If you're open to using synthetics, something with high fast release nitrogen is a good choice (like ammonium sulfate or urea). I think ammonium sulfate is 21-0-0 and urea 39-0-0 or 43-0-0. Use enough to apply 1 lb of actual N per 1000 sq ft (so about 5 lbs per 1000 sq ft of ammonium sulfate and 2-2.5 lbs of urea).

Don't follow the calendar for the timing. follow the weather/lawn growth. Wait until the grass stops growing, but is still green. It will then use the niotrogen to create food and store it in its root system instead of using it to promote top growth.


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Thanks bpgreen. I have been looking for a Urea product in the big box stores with no luck, guess I should call the Lesco store and see what they have in stock.

What about some Pre-M? I know it is recommended to put some down this time of year as well but wasn't sure if I should just wait till spring with the new grass.

Thanks.


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RE: Overseeding was a success...now preparing for winter?

You don't want to force feed a lawn at this time...that just causes increased growth and if an early frost hits, the lawn can be damaged. The starter fertilizer would have been added at seeding time and no longer is it required. Wait for any pushing to be done in the spring.

As far as protecting against winter, just maintain the lawn in watering and mowing a height that will not invite damge from frost. The first cut should be a high one....3" to 3 1/2" is fine. Going lower at this time with new grass invites damage if an early frost occurs.
Keep the height at this level and let the grass mature gradually.
Lower mowing can be accomplished in the spring when, at that time, a further layering of compost/topsoil/triple mix..can be given the lawn prior to the first mowing. Let the grass grow up through this topping.
This then feeds the soil--increases the nutrtion the new grass will appreciate. Then you can drop the height to
2 1/2" - 3" and maintained at that height.


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RE: Overseeding was a success...now preparing for winter?

No Pre-emergent on grass that new. I believe Tupersan is OK to apply about now but that would probably be a waste of money.

On the fertilizer, it is important to fertilize once in September timeframe and one somewhere around November. Those months are just generalities, like bp said, exact timing is based off of weather, etc. I think it would be very reasonable to put down your starter fertilizer about now. Then in November, feed the grass again. Fall is the most important time of year to fertilize.

Sorry, I don't know what you seeded with, but if it's tall fescue, 3-4" is a good height overall. Tall fescue looks really nice around 3.5" or even 4" when maintained well. That said, your last mowing should be around 2.5" or even 2.25".


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