Toro Super Recycler would be the best choice. It will bag and mulch exceptionally well and will last for several decades if you keep up on maintenance.

Ive had my eye on that one but my toro dealer said that the super bagger would be the better choice. Didnt know if he just wanted to make a few extra bucks off the sale or if it would be the better choice. I know i read something on here that said the kickers reduce bagging by 20% but others say it does great. Thanks for the feedback.

Snapper Hi-Vac is the best bagger. I have several of both and the Snappers outperform the Toro Super Recycler in the bagging department. That's my opinion.

The Toro 'Super Bagger' makes use of designs that were tested on various Lawn-Boy models no longer available, like the aluminum-deck 'Insight' models and the 22271 commercial. This hi-dome deck bags and mulches great without any 'disruptors' in the airstream in the housing. This mower is a completely different design from the Super Recycler. Both Toros have the Personal Pace drive which is very reliable and requires basically no operator input. If I were looking for a new one I would be sure to go see in person any mower I was interested in before buying.

I would recommend the super bagger if you weren't doing both bagging and mulching.

What about the drive? I have just about had it with my TroyBilt. It uses a belt that gets tensioned with a lever on the handlebar. It never ever worked properly and I've sworn never to get anything with a belt again. There must be better arrangements out there?

My very first post. Thanks.

ukDavid - Your post doesn't fit at all in this discussion. Does it belong under another thread???

I have been looking at a couple Toro machines with their Personal Pace systems. I think that may be what uk is asking about. I don't know about them but have a lot of praise about them. As I understand, they respond bye biding more drive, the harder you push, other words, sensing your forward momentum and matching that with an appropriate pace. Mechanically speaking though, I. Don't know how they work.

OOps! Should read. I have READ a lot of praise

snapper hi-vac for me too. i have the commercial one with the kawasaki down side it is expensive i paid 799.00 + tax it is now 999.00+ tax according to there website mine is almost 3 years old. the cut i get from the ninga blade is second to none,i almost always mulch.motor is very strong it never boggs down even in high grass as long as the blade is sharp. i sharpen the blade every 3 cuts during the growing season.i have 6 blades that i rotate.got to have a snapper no other mower would i consider

self propelled means 22" cut? my yard is saddle shape. does not fall away from house. actually rises up the further out you go. so i get a great view of my work. had 22" before. hated the lines from mowing. got a 33" dbl blade walkbehind unit. mulching is subpar. get lines of debris in june from leftover grass. yes i know. mow more often. my yard is 1/2 acre. did take a long time to mow with 22" unit.