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| Hey everyone, I just joined this forum after reading some threads.
I currently cut a few yards in my area and my number or properties is growing. I need to find a mower that will stand abuse for years to come and also have great quality of cut. The main thing is I need a good bagger that is self propelled. Also a blade brake clutch would be nice but it is not required. Most of the time I bag, and for the lawns I mulch I have two Toro Super Recyclers that can take care of the few mulching duties I have. The main ones I have been looking at are the Toro 22156, the Honda HRC216, the Exmark Commercial 21 X series with either the Kai and/or the Honda, or the Snapper CP2155HV. Any advice as to which one or the top choices? |
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| They are all top notch mowers, go to the dealer that gives the best service. Honda seems to be most popular in our area. |
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| Those range in price pretty significantly - the Toro and the Snapper are under $900, and the other two are over $1100+ - did you end up making a decision? |
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| I would look into the Honda HRX217HYA. I know its not a commercial mower but over at lawnboards there is a guy that has been using his for a season or two and couldn't be happier. |
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| I have the Honda HRC216, and am unhappy with the cut. Mine leaves random single blades of uncut grass throughout the lawns I mow. They look as though they have been blown over instead of being cut, then pop back up. Often the next day shows more than it originally looked like still standing. Honda denies any issues. I've even gotten a new blade set, and adjusted the rpm higer with no improvement. Toro or Exmark are really good - especially with the Kawi engine. |
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- Posted by KubotaMaster 7A-Arkansas (My Page) on Tue, Jun 19, 12 at 1:34
| I agree wif mowernut you cant go wrong with an exmark with the kai engine. Even though now I prefer kubota or Scag mowers I used exmark mowers when I started my lawn service with no probs. I have had problems with honda mowers leaving blown down patches. But thats your choice im sure not all hondas do this. |
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| Retired my John Deere 14SE after 17 years. Bought a HRC216 and I'm having the same problem with single blades not getting cut. Pathetic for a 1100.00 dollar lawn mower. I ordered the spacer to replace the mulching blade. I'll see if that helps at all. Are any after market blades better than Honda's for this problem? |
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- Posted by rosemallow z7 Md (My Page) on Sat, Jun 23, 12 at 8:02
| If you are going to bag with the Honda you should get a high lift blade. I do not use any spacers. Just bolt on the high lift blade. I like the Honda HRX 217 HXA. This is the higher horsepower engine and has a lot of great features. Stay away from the Honda lawn mowers with speeds of 3, 2, or 1. The transmissions are garbage. The Hydrostatic transmissions are a better selection.. |
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- Posted by KubotaMaster 7A-Arkansas (My Page) on Sat, Jun 23, 12 at 8:11
| I use Gator Blades on all of my Kubota and Scag mowers. And my push mowers. These blades cut out 95% of my blowdowns and bad cuts but sometimes just changing the blades doesnt help. To properly use a mulching blade the machine must be set up for it, ie use the proper baffles and chute blocker. Running mulching blades under a regular deck will do nothing for you other than make you spend more money. Kubota came out with a kit for their machines back in the early 90's that had baffles and a chute blocker and used plain hylift blades. These Worked very well until I got tired of changing them out all the time in the spring. Now that I use gator blades I dont use anything else plus they dont leave big clumps behind in tall grass. Plus if they dont work for you most places will let you return for your choice of blade. |
Here is a link that might be useful: Gator Blades
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- Posted by rosemallow z7 Md (My Page) on Sat, Jun 23, 12 at 12:04
| I disagree. Honda makes a bagging high lift blade for their lawnmower. By vacuum it lifts the grass higher and cuts better and more even. And it bags better. As for mulching I don't care what anyone thinks. I know The honda mulching blades peform better than any Gator blade. The two blades are patented. You get the smallest particles of grass and all others leave duty balls on the grass which kills the grass. Try a Honda for mulching and you will find out what it can really do. |
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- Posted by KubotaMaster 7A-Arkansas (My Page) on Sat, Jun 23, 12 at 22:40
| Oops yeah I agree with "rosemallow" I forgot about my honda pushmower im thinking about ztr's and of like size mowers I forgot that my honda has the quad-cut blade system works very well.. |
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| I removed my mulching blade and installed Honda's spacer I bought for $5.00. No more long single blades left uncut and it runs quieter and smoother. |
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| I removed my mulching blade and installed Honda's spacer I bought for $5.00. No more long single blades left uncut and it runs quieter and smoother. |
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