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Mon, Sep 10, 12 at 14:09
| Its orange painted cast aluminum body...with self propelled
Of course it has an OLd Cant get to run Tecuhmes engine. Its an Lav35 series... So I assume it is a 3.5 engine.... friend gave it to us. Its been in his toolshed for over 10 years... It looks good though Hubby took off carberator and used Gum out or whatever.... The foam filter looks good It has that terrible nylon geared pull starter...Which I am prob not going to be strong enough to pull Hubby sprayed starter fluid it will start that way but then dies.... HE is upset. He spent two days on it... and we have more important fishes to fry... That is a long tale there...
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- Posted by bill_kapaun Z8 Orygun (My Page) on Mon, Sep 10, 12 at 15:16
| Likely, there is a "Brass Nut" holding the carb bowl on. THAT is the Main Jet. There are TINY holeS in it that need to be cleaned out. Very easy to miss one, because it might just look like a black speck. Use a fine wire, like in a wire tie from a loaf of bread to clean out. |
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| "anybody know what kind of mower this is" appears to be made by the "caution" lawnmower company... Maybe a pic of the whole unit might unravel the mystery. looks to be a nicely designed deck as far as dispersing clippings. |
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| Personally, anything with a Tecumseh engine is best left alone and not worth the energy. But since your are an awesome wife and posted this thread (my wife would be more apt to post a thread titled "how to keep husband out of the garage!!??!!") here's what I'd do. Check the carb as was posted above, if he's been on it two days I'm sure he had to atleast mess with it. I like to soak all the metal parts of a nasty carb in carb cleaner (gum out) for an hour or more, agitating it every 15-20m. After that I'd check to see if theres even spark getting to the plug at the proper time/it sparks every revolution in a consistent manner. If he has a compression gauge, check it maybe too low. There's a hundred things it could be so report back! |
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- Posted by KubotaMaster 7A-Arkansas (My Page) on Tue, Sep 11, 12 at 0:28
| Looks like it may be an old Scott's push mower. And As far as I can find John Deere built Scott's machines from 1995 to 2002 only. The included link will take you to the JD site that talks about these machines... Also I read that they bought the plant that was making Murray machines so they could build riding mowers for the box stores (home depot, Lowes, etc.) at the price point that was required by those stores, a price and quality less than their regular equipment. These machines are not generally appreciated in the same way that John Deere's usual machines are. Could also possibly be huscvarna but unlikely. |
Here is a link that might be useful: John Deere service page
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- Posted by jeanwedding 6 ky (My Page) on Tue, Sep 11, 12 at 13:23
| Okay I dont know how to upload more than one pic it seemed not to let me when tried before and wont let me now Thanks Jean |
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| Does your neighbor know where he got it? Since you know it's a Tec-oomph-sa engine, then you should be able to find some 'numbers' on it, (model number, serial number....). Those numbers are on there 'somewhere'. You may have to scratch off some paint, or rub off some accumulated grit, but they are there. Those numbers are invaluable in finding parts, and service manuals, etc. But, like Bill K. says, check out that brass nut on the bottom of the fuel bowl. Being as it's at least 10 years old, I don't think it's Chinese. The color of the paint suggests Husqvarna, but there were many manufacturers that made products for Sears, and many major 'chain' hardware stores, (Ace, True Value, etc.). Also, it doesn't sound as if this is your only mower. I'm guessin that your hubby is working on it as a sort of 'I know I can fix it' sort of project. HEY, all of us guys have a few of those. Let him fiddle with it, and it may keep him out of your kitchen. |
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- Posted by jeanwedding 6 ky (My Page) on Tue, Sep 11, 12 at 14:09
| Oh also it has a LAV 35 series motor on it... Unless the guy who gave it to us..... put a different motor on it.. The motor is quite old according to other sources How can we go in and edit our just post messages to add another sentence after "submit" ??? Thanks |
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| Jacobsen? |
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| It is Jacobsen like in certain ways IE aluminum deck w/ that progressive tunnel on the top. Drive is different maybe? Engine looks to be the same color in the pic. That center handle support looks familiar. Was it the old Sunbeam? Something General Power put together? Mid late 70's is my guess. Cool little mower. How about a good pic of the blade and blade hub? |
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- Posted by tooltime79 Midwest US (My Page) on Wed, Sep 12, 12 at 0:41
| Looks like an old Jacobsen to me. We sold them in the hardware store I worked in in high school in the late 70's. A lot of the old Jacobsens came with 2 cycle engines back then but that one is obviously a 4 cycle. You'll have to take the carb apart I'm sure, it's not getting enough gas through to run. |
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- Posted by KubotaMaster 7A-Arkansas (My Page) on Wed, Sep 12, 12 at 11:09
| I agree its a Jacobsen. I remit wat i stated earlier now that i can see the whole picture. |
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- Posted by jeanwedding 6 ky (My Page) on Wed, Sep 12, 12 at 13:18
| I JUST talked to neighbor via phone.. He said he thinks its an INTERNATIONAL HARVERSTER" or John Deere... and he took off the electric starter... Wow which he still has he says....He changed out the starter to a sideways pull starter also he put on a different cowling as he recalls. so its a mongrel or hybrid right ? Thanks |
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| Personally, anything with a Tecumseh engine is best left alone and not worth the energy. BS. Sears sold millions with that same engine. Probably One of the easiest and reliable push mower engines made. About the only think that can KILL it is the owner. If it will fire off Carb cleaner then it will run, May knock do to the previous owner not Changing the oil or checking it. As suggested reclean the carb. and ALL the little passages. |
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| Pre emission Tecs weren't bad engines. I had an old Whirlwind with a similar engine. In close to 20 years, the carb was not ever apart. The only IH wpms I remember were Lawnboy decks and were yellow. They certainly could have made other efforts tho.Blade pics may really help! |
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| The reason I originally suggested Jacobsen, is because my Dad had one back in the 60's, and it seems to me that the words "Traction Drive" were molded into the deck. I'm not sure about that, but I will say that Dad's mower was a darn good machine. Ah, for the days when things with American names on 'em were the best. Remember when names like Black and Decker and Stanley ... and many, many others were good ol' American-made tools? Personally, I think it's misleading and underhanded to transfer those old names to Chinese-made stuff. Okay, my wife's looking over my shoulder and just told me "No use getting on your soapbox," so I'll not go into my usual rampage. The news is on, and this old Marine, says "Kick some Libyan ass, and don't take names!" |
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- Posted by snuffyinatl se (My Page) on Fri, Sep 14, 12 at 0:26
| That old mower would look good in my collection :) I always liked the old Tecumseh's, especially the ones with adjustable timing...I could make them run like a sewing machine. |
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- Posted by KubotaMaster 7A-Arkansas (My Page) on Mon, Sep 17, 12 at 8:02
| I figured it was a John Deere product when i first seen it but Jacobson still makes (or made for that matter) a mower that looks just like it. |
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- Posted by jeanwedding 6 ky (My Page) on Fri, Sep 21, 12 at 10:19
| heres pics of Hub Hubby still working on it. He cleaned the carb again and adjusted float. \ I hope we can get all the old ELECTRIC start parts from our friend. Cause I am not string enough to keep pulling that rope starter....LOL Wish Hubby luck I hear him trying to get it to start now he sprayed starter fluid in air cleaner holder... I hate to see him waste time on it if it wont run.... Cause we have too many other fish to fry. I would upload the closer pic, IF YALL would tell me how to upload more than one picture,please Thanks jean |
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| Hmmm. Is the blade actually sharpened on the bottom side? |
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| You're right, Tom. That one sure is! (Okay, I've installed a blade like that once or twice myself.) |
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| It looks as though that the blade is installed correctly, but very few are sharpened on the bottom. Plus, the self propel. No belt, is that a small driveshaft off the camshaft? The plot thickens.... |
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- Posted by jeanwedding 6 ky (My Page) on Thu, Sep 27, 12 at 19:30
| Yes Hubby said it is a small driveshaft.... UPDATE......Hubbvy tried like heck to get it to run so after several days Local small engine repair got it running good for only $30 If known that he would not have wasted so much precious time..... They said was the linkage and recleaned carberator... so that like 4 time its been cleaned.... and adjusted the rpms.... I asked Hubby why he did not ask them to sharpen blade while they had it for only a day.... Duh ...cause his grinder is not here at this house.... ah well nobody is perfect esp Me.... LOL Now hope old place neighbor can find the self propelled parts.... cause in this little town. there is a guy who rebuild or finds starters... works out of his garage... nice guy. will try to post about forth coming parts... I have not tried to start yet... I am not as strong as used to be... Its heck getting old... thats why I need an electic start on this old Orange mower... the hybrid Thanks jean |
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| In the mid 70's we had a silver craftsman mower with the red "Dual Power" engine. Dual power refered to a selector above the carb that allowed hi or lo. The body looked nothing like your picture. I ruined that engine by hitting the pipe for the water shut off. My dad put the mower in the shed and it sat for about 20 years. Ten years ago I took it out of the shed, put an even older Briggs 3hp on it, found some ten inch wheels and made a poor man's rough cut mower to maintain trails at the deer shack. I suspect you have a cobbled mower as well. Mine lasted three years under severe conditions. Yours looks much better. Good luck |
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| I've changed my mind ... I don't think it's a Jacobsen after all. My brother has an old picture, and our's didn't say "traction drive" after all. It just said "Jacobsen." But this has been a fun thread! |
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- Posted by tooltime79 Midwest US (My Page) on Wed, Oct 3, 12 at 0:22
| Wow, I have a hard time believing it's a John Deere or IH. IH would have painted it red, John Deere Green of course. I wonder if it could be a Simplicity or maybe even an Allis Chalmers? If he is thinking it was manufactured by a tractor company maybe he isn't remembering the right one? |
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- Posted by KubotaMaster 7A-Arkansas (My Page) on Thu, Oct 4, 12 at 23:22
| I still maintain the statement that its either a John Deere or Jacobson mower one of my neighbors has a Jacobson that looks just like it. |
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