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Can anyone idtntify this plant? Please.

Posted by posieh 3 (My Page) on
Wed, Mar 20, 13 at 23:32

This plant just appeared in my garden a couple years ago. It gets over six feet tall and leaves sorta resemble a hollyhock but are ruffled. It has a small cluster of tiny pink flowers tight to the stem. An attractive annual that does self seed but not a pest.


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RE: Can anyone idtntify this plant? Please.

Malva verticillata crispa?

Here is a link that might be useful: Malva verticillata crispa


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otherwise known as an invasive weed in north america ... per the link ...

i bought mine from a reputable botanical garden ... killed 20 million the second year.. 8 years back or so.. AND I STILL HAVE SEEDLINGS POPPING UP...

whats that all about ...

ken

Here is a link that might be useful: link


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ken,
Since you seem to be up on Boreal weeds I'd like your input on
using this as a winter vegetable in Texas. Nights here hover in
the mid to low 20's F. in late Dec. thru. the first week of Feb.
Can this Malva handle that?


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Probably overwinter as seeds.


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No, here in the South you germinate your Winter veggies
in October/November in hopes of a late Winter or Spring
harvest. Onions/Brassicas/lettuce/beets ect thrive this way.
They'd be dead by May if sown in Spring for a Summer harvest.
4 months at 100 degrees kills almost anything not native.

Here is a link that might be useful: This is how most new gardeners feel in Austin, it gets better

This post was edited by saltcedar on Thu, Mar 21, 13 at 12:02


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Flora_UK?
Do you have any thoughts on overwintering this plant?


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Sorry, Salt. I have no knowledge of this plant and can't find many UK references to it. I've linked to the best I found.

Here is a link that might be useful: Malva verticillata


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Thanks Flora,
I'm getting mixed messages. Some say frost hardy, in fact biennial
others say not frost hardy then go on to say it's a Winter vegetable
in parts of Asia!?


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I've never tried this one but the first link above listed zones 4-9 and the link Flora shared said zone 6. Doesn't matter if it is either zone 4 or 6, it means not only frost but sub-zero F temperatures. I'd try it and see how it fares.

I think the trickier part is that the first link said annual or biennial. So it may not last very long either way.

FataMorgana


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My concern is will it tolerate freezing of the top growth
as you might expect a cabbage to resist moderate freezing.
As in low 30'sF to mid-20'sF with an occasional dip to near 20.


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I don't know. I've never seen any of the Malvas here make it through frosts without the top growth dying back....maybe M. neglecta does. Can't remember. But hardy ones like hollyhocks and marshmallows just sprout back up in the spring. I would just try it and see what happens. Many of the "hardy" Asian herbs and plants I've tried handle my Western NY State winters very well and you have much more mild conditions than I do.

FataMorgana


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FataMorgana,
I appreciate your input. The window to grow this and other plants
is VERY short. We've been 99F in February, so any plant that is
to produce a crop has to be fully hardy and ready to harvest before
mid April or it's literally toast!


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Glad to help. If you do try it, I wish you luck!

FataMorgana


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does it make small brown seedpods filled with tiny seeds

if so it might be some kind of Moth-Mullen they make pretty flowers and reseed there self.


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mike127 - it has been reliably identified already. The question now is on its suitability as a winter veg in Texas. Which none of us seems to be able to answer. I guess Salt just has to try it and let us know.


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Guess I ought to follow up?

Seed packet says: "Like cool and wet weather conditions,
Avoid high temperatures, cold resistance,
Low temperature can also enhance quality"


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Well, Salt, that description makes it sound like the perfect UK plant. I wonder why we don't seem to grow it much?


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Well, Salt, that description makes it sound like the perfect UK plant. I wonder why we don't seem to grow it much?


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Probably too prolific? (weedy)


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I think it is Malva verticillata, as someone identified. Thanks everyone.


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yeah "flora_uk" i suppose your right. it still looks like a soft plant like the Moth-Mullen kind of just with wider leaves.


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