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Sun, Aug 26, 12 at 20:18
| Trying to get an ID of a tree/shrub from the dried shriveled fruit. Found in late August in the Piedmont area of Carolina. Outside is brown, might be aged or its natural color. Any guesses? (Did not see tree, only found fruit.) |
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| It would more helpful if we could see an image before you cut it open. |
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- Posted by zorba_the_greek (My Page) on Sun, Aug 26, 12 at 21:06
| It was a tan ball. |
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| Perhaps an oak gall, caused by insects and not a fruit. |
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- Posted by zorba_the_greek (My Page) on Mon, Aug 27, 12 at 6:49
| It is a fruit. Not a gall. |
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| Do you have a picture of the plant it came from? I also think it is a gall and the hole in the centre supports that theory. Scroll down the link until you get to Andricus californicus - California Oak Gall Wasp and see what you think. |
Here is a link that might be useful: Oak gall
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| I thought from the very beginning that it was an oak gall. |
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- Posted by zorba_the_greek (My Page) on Mon, Aug 27, 12 at 15:05
| I am more inclined to think it is a drying Cornus kousa fruit or that of the Arbutus menziesii. In the Carolinas where this was found the Kousa is fruiting heavily. |
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| Doesn't look like either, does look like a gall. Are you seeing Madrona trees elsewhere in the Carolinas? Often hard to establish and maintain as a deliberately planted garden specimen even here in its native area. |
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| I think it is a gall too. Remy |
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- Posted by gardengal48 PNW zone 8 (My Page) on Tue, Aug 28, 12 at 15:21
| Cornus or arbutus fruit are very fleshy and would tend to rot (if not consumed by wildlife) long before they would dry and turn brown. Looks very much like the oak galls I've seen. |
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| Cornus kousa fruit have polygonal segments (I think maybe pentagonal) all over the outside, each with a raised bump in the middle. Right now they are still bright red on the outside and very fleshy. Mine have not ever turned tan. As Flora said, the little hole in the center is one of the indicators that this is a gall. |
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| zorba, so far...that's 7 to 1, lol. Have we convinced you, yet? Check out google images on the Oak apple gall. You'll find some that look exactly like yours. |
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| I don't know anything about oak galls, madrona, or C. kousa, except what I have read since opening this thread. What I do know, though, is that fruit should have seeds, so I've looked up the seeds of both Arbutus menziesii and C. kousa. Both should be easily seen when opening the "fruit", and they aren't in the OP's picture. C. kousa: http://www.google.com/imgres?q=Cornus+kousa+seeds&hl=en&sa=X&rls=com.m icrosoft:en-us:IE-Address&rlz=1I7SNNT_enUS496US496&biw=1205&bih=598&tb m=isch&prmd=imvns&tbnid=BGS2SQAaIEeTcM:&imgrefurl=http://www.thegarden helper.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/68/4419.html&imgurl=http://i31.pho tobucket.com/albums/c354/Gail21676/kousa01.jpg&w=470&h=300&ei=Q18-UNfT N-eOiAKrxYCwAQ&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=246&vpy=106&dur=35&hovh=179&hovw=281 &tx=155&ty=110&sig=110621673621971630212&page=1&tbnh=121&tbnw=173&star t=0&ndsp=19&ved=1t:429,r:7,s:0,i:97 |
Here is a link that might be useful: Madrona fruit w/ seeds
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| You have gall, lol. |
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| The tiny cavity in the middle is another clue. |
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