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Love this but what is it?

Posted by Jasons34 PA (My Page) on
Mon, Sep 9, 13 at 16:12

I was at a pond store just last week and noticed this ground cover (?) at the top of the waterfall and wanted to know if anyone here knew. I asked the girl that was working at the time and she had no clue. I am hoping it is something I can put out at my pond though it gets full sun. Thanks in advance.


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Lantana camara.


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not winter hardy in my z5..

interesting that a google search.. one link says winter hardy to z4.. and other say 10-11 ... whats that all about..

which is it????

ken


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Zone 6b to 8b depending on species, clone and soil conditions.

This post was edited by saltcedar on Mon, Sep 9, 13 at 18:03


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Its position by the pond was serendipitous. It doesn't need that environment.


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So this wouldn't be winter hardy in Pennsylvania? (Not sure what me zone actually is)


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These are hardly hardy to zone 8. Some are reputed to be hardy to Atlanta, but that is about as far north as they re-grow without extraordinary winter help. One frost, the top dies, a day of less than 32F and the roots die. Probably a good thing as any Australian can tell you.


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Lantana motividensis is evergreen in zone 8 and root hardy in zone 7, 6b with a heavy mulch and good drainage.
Lantana horrida ( urticoides) also root hardy in zone 8, 7b with a mulch.


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So this wouldn't be winter hardy in Pennsylvania? (Not sure what me zone actually is)


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Probably not, yours is L. camara only hardy in zone 8b or a little colder.


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To find out your USDA plant hardiness zone, enter your zip code at upper left here:
http://planthardiness.ars.usda.gov/PHZMWeb/


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Sorry I don't know why that double posted like that. I am zone 6b so that's a no go for me. Thank you


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Jason - they're really easy to find in spring. I'm in Philadelphia, and they're sold in 4" pots for about $3 apiece. By now, those little potted plants are huge. If you love them, you'll find plenty to choose from in May!


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I must not get out a lot then because thats the first I've ever seen them. What planting conditions do they like. I have a spot I would like to put them but it would get full sun and I also have about 3" of decorative stone.


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Mobot isn't a particularly good source of info' for subtropical hardiness. They way underestimate it in most cases. L. camara is a good example. It is thoroughly naturalized here in zone 8b, yet they list 10 (or 9 as root hardy).


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Agree L. camara is quite hardy, a ubiquitous 'old' shrub in many yards in S Ala, getting 6+ feet tall after mild winters. So that means they're surviving single-digit temps in many years from being completely ignored (when they are dead above-ground, but would be surprising if it didn't grow back from the roots.)

Plant in full sun, cover with a couple feet of leaves after frosted, excellent drainage, possible adjacent pavement, you could push the zone easily I'm sure, but how far - who knows? 6B? Maybe. Against a basement wall (west or south side) is more reliable in my limited experience at zone pushing in 5b. One can naturalize Mirabilis jalapa, Gladiolus, and Canna in 5b...

In a pot, a window well might be an option, or against a wall under a pile of leaves.


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It grows wild here in Texas


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The most cold hardy variety is 'Miss Huff'. Just be sure not to prune it until new spring growth is present.

Here is a link that might be useful: Lantana ' Miss Huff'


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Here's one for all you Lantana lovers.

Here is a link that might be useful: Lantana trifolia (Lavender Popcorn)


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It makes a huge difference where in the zone system you are located - zone 8 Texas is NOT the same as zone 8 Washington state. There is no way in the world lantana - any lantana - would overwinter in my climate and I am much closer to a 9 than 8. It has a lot to do with average heat index (very low here), snow cover and amount of annual rainfall and when it occurs.

Jason, this plant will be sold as a summer annual in your climate. Inexpensive to replace annually and fast to grow. But very unlikely to winter over.


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Grows wild here in the Caribbean....really good for fevers


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Can you take them indoors as a house plant for the winter and put it out like you do with hibiscus???

Just wondering


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This post was edited by ians_gardener on Tue, Sep 10, 13 at 23:20


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I have that exact one and it has grown like crazy, it was taller than the house till my husband got the pruning shears to it and now it's more of a bush size. It winters beautifully in the garden and gets a good amount of sun daily here in the area north of Houston. It is easy to grow from cuttings. I have some of the other colors also but have never seen that Lavender popcorn! I want it!


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Harvest the seeds they put on plenty.


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  • Posted by bboy USDA 8 Sunset 5 WA (My Page) on
    Sat, Sep 14, 13 at 22:47

Have probably never seen one of these overwinter here, that I was aware of. Spiny nuisance shrub in Hawaii.

Apart from the effects of summer heat on maturing and overwintering of various plants - with hot summer climates enabling some kinds to persist that would not mature adequately before fall or winter in cool summer climates - there is variation in how well different people get themselves placed in the right USDA zone.


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I've never seen Lantana overwinter outdoors in the Philadelphia area. However, I do see them for sale at big box stores every spring, for cheap, in a variety of colors.


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Wonderful annual, Jason. I am always able to find a nice variety of colors of Lantana at any private garden center here in western PA. I usually grow mine in a large pot with some other annuals. Bees love them and so do I.

In recent years, there have been lots of new varieties come on the market. I like the "Patriot" series and have grown many plants from that group.

I'd purchase one of these rather than grow them from seed. In our area, it takes a long time to get flowers from seedlings, but purchased plants usually have flowers on them already, even ones in a four inch pot.

Linda


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Yea im going to try it next spring. But instead of planting it in the ground I'm going to plant in an oversized pot. What month should I start looking around for it?


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I like to buy mine the first week of May. You should wait to plant it until danger of frost is over, which is around the middle of May here. If I wait too long to buy mine, I'm limited as to my choice of colors. One year, all the local garden center had left was totally gold ones - no change of color as the flowers age. I enjoyed it anyway, but I do like the multi colored blooms. This year I planted my multi colored lantana with 3 bubble gum pink million bells in the same pot. I loved the effect of the colors together.

Linda


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