Resembles Carex retrorsa or something else in the section Vesicariae

Thanks Lycopus....could it be a Carex frankii ?? Can you id sedges by their seed shapes or do those all look the same too? I saw some pics of the seeds and they seemed to look identical to the ones I collected....however...if they all look the same....

Doesn't look like C. frankii to me. For that species it is best to compare the shape of the perigynia and how they taper into the beak.

Thanks Lycopus...after looking at a lot of pics I think you're probably correct...I think it's just the location that puts me off...it seems to occur N and W of VA but maybe there's some overlap? Am I right in thinking that the perigynia is part of the seed?

Technically the seed is inside the hard achene. The perigynium is the papery sac that surrounds the achene. I may be wrong about it being C. retrorsa since there are no records for VA. Perhaps a related species.

Looks a bit like Carex lurida to me, but there are a lot of options for that general shape. Some Carex species are tough to ID, even with a key in one hand and a microscope in the other.

Thanks Lycopus and Jekeesl for your help! These sedges seem to have popped up all over the place along with rushes and moss...didn't know this was a boggy property but I guess these species say it is! I love sedges but have had a really tough time finding a book that covers the basics....what does " perigynium generally reflexed" mean? Anyway for now I'll call it a C. lurida...

Thanks again for your help :)