Hello I received several cuttings of this plant from a neighbor of my dads several years ago. I put it in a couple of pots and they are happy there as long as they don't get too much sun. My dads neighbor has them in the ground in the shade of several large trees and they are about 4 to 5 ft high. They like well drained soil, not too much water. in some ways they remind me of plumeria but get no flowers. I am usually good a figuring out plants but not this time!