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NOT Oleander ?

Posted by aswhad belgium-europe (My Page) on
Sat, Nov 9, 13 at 14:41

In Belgium normally Oleander must be kept inside for winter,
but we have a shrub that's planted outside and doesn't have any winter damage, the label is lost and i've never seen it bloom.
The leaves are very much like Nerium oleander.
The shrub is more 7 feet (i think) en nicely dome shaped.
Is there anything else that looks like oleander??

If it nevertheless is oleander why won't it bloom?

I will post a picture later next week if necessary.

Thank you.


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RE: NOT Oleander ?

It would be helpful if you can post the photo as soon as you can so that a proper identification can be made. Thx


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RE: NOT Oleander ?

Does it have milky white sap? Some woody plants might require more heat and/or cold to flower. If your conditions don't meet those requirements the plants may not flower.


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It could be a Chilopsis. The leaves on a Chilopsis look almost identical to an Oleander, but I doubt they would flower in Belgium. They usually grow in area that get 35 - 40C in the summer.


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We really need a picture. It's not going to be Chilopsis - that's a greenhouse plant even in the UK and Belgium is a little colder.


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Many of the myrtles/bayberries look very similar to Nerium as far as leaf shape and growth habit are concerned. Flowers are usually insignificant so not particularly noticeable. Myrica gale is even considered native to parts of northern Europe so hardy enough for Belgium.

But this is all just a guess until we see photos :-))


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gardengal48 - I don't think the OP would have Bog Myrtle growing in their garden. Although native, I've never seen it in cultivation and it needs specific wet acidic conditions. And this thing is said to be 7 feet tall.

aswhad - are you on the coast? If so you could look at Hebe salicifolia and compare with your plant.


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  • Posted by aswhad belgium-europe (My Page) on
    Mon, Nov 11, 13 at 6:29

Don't think it's Myrica gale or Hebe salicifolia...
I'm convinced to post a photo now. :-)
in a few days i will for sure (it's not in my garden...)

Thanks for all the reply's


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aswhad - without a picture you are not going to get an id I'm afraid. The sooner the better. Once we can see it you are almost certain to have an answer.

Could you answer the question about whether you are on the coast? That makes a lot of difference.


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  • Posted by aswhad belgium-europe (My Page) on
    Mon, Nov 11, 13 at 14:50

No not on the coast flora_uk


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  • Posted by aswhad belgium-europe (My Page) on
    Thu, Nov 14, 13 at 10:45

So here they are, photo's.

Culd it be some kind of Ilex ?

Here is a link that might be useful: more photo's


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Compare with Sarcococca hookeriana var. digyna. All the shrubs in your picture have been clipped so don't set too much store by the shape.

Here is a link that might be useful: Sarcococca


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  • Posted by aswhad belgium-europe (My Page) on
    Thu, Nov 14, 13 at 16:04

Somebody told me it sometimes has white fragrant flowers, so Sarcococca came to mind, but i'm not yet convinced....
The leaves are not shiny at all, hopefully it'll flower next year so we can remove all doubt.

Thanks


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If it is Sarcocooca it should start flowering soon. It blooms in winter.

Could you get a closer view of the foliage?


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Flora, there are more photos with a link to them below the large picture.
Here is the same link below.

Here is a link that might be useful: foliage


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A botanist friend suggested it is a Viburnum. He has seen one similar that a nursery owner couldn't identify so they ground it up and got the DNA which turned out to be Viburnum.


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Duh.. Just wasn't concentrating there Carol23. I've had a look and I am stumped.


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  • Posted by aswhad belgium-europe (My Page) on
    Fri, Nov 15, 13 at 13:31

Fascinating ain't it ?
if possible i shall try to take a picture of the stem /bark.


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  • Posted by bboy USDA 8 Sunset 5 WA (My Page) on
    Fri, Nov 15, 13 at 14:03

Osmanthus decorus.


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RE: NOT Oleander ?

  • Posted by aswhad belgium-europe (My Page) on
    Fri, Nov 15, 13 at 18:24

spot on
Thanks bboy and everyone for you're contributions.


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