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Posted by johnndc Wash DC (My Page) on Tue, Jun 3, 08 at 15:28
| Gang, I've owned the cheap 48 inch T8 fluorescent fixtures from Home Depot for several years now. And I've found that about year 2 or 3 they die on me. I've just had 2 more die. And I'm getting tired of going to HD every 3 months to replace one. Ki had mentioned that she thought Lowes' had some good fixtures. Does anyone have any suggestions for where to get fixtures that are a tad better than the ones at HD? Just seems that dying after 2 or 3 years is a bit much, or maybe it isn't. Thanks, JOHN |
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RE: Suggestions for finding good fluorescent fixtures?
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| I've had the same experience, but I just kept replacing them. Didn't consider the cost excessive, but I can see that it would get old after a while. I don't grow anything under lights nowadays, mainly because I'm in California rather than Texas. Everything I grow can overwinter outdoors here. |
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| John, Are you saying the fixtures that the bulbs go in are dying, rather than the bulbs? My 2 48" shop light fixtures came from HD almost 3 years ago, and they've been plugging right along. Yeah, I'd be frustrated if I were going back to HD every few months. Maybe if each one lasted 3 years, though, it'd be okay, considering how many hours a day each one is used. Maybe a retail lighting place would have higher quality fixtures, or an online place. Let me know what you find, in case mine go out next week. :) Whitecat8 |
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| My first cheap shop lights in the greenhouse lasted for many years before croaking. Then I went through a bunch of Lowe's shop lights several years ago. The fixtures would last about two to three weeks and croak, and Lowe's would give me a replacement, which also lasted a short period of time and croaked, and then another replacement which also last only a few weeks. They were different brands, so it wasn't just a defective run at the factory. Turned out that the "new & improved" shop light with an electronic ballast has a lot of problems. It wasn't because it was so hot in the GH since the temperature was the same as in my house (75F). It wasn't because the humidity was so high in there because it was no different than my house and garage at that time (50%). The cheap electronic ballasts are just crap; that was the problem, and Lowe's no longer sold the old style magnetic ballast fixtures anymore. But HD still carried them, and the fixtures I bought from them (specifically asking for a magnetic rather than an electronic ballast - they had both) have now been running trouble free for about four years. The magnetic were the same price as the electronic cheapies ($9-10). This may or may not be your problem, but I sure hope HD is still selling the magnetic ballast type. |
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| The new shop lights are pure crap. I went through three that would work for about 5 weeks or so then they would start shuting off automatically. I would have to unplug them for about 5 minutes then plug them back in. The light would come on for about an hour or so then go back out. I switched to CFL's and have not looked back. |
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| I've been dealing with the same problem. The cheap electronic HD T8 fixtures (made in China) regularly die on me after about a year and I've replaced just about every one of my 16 now with the same type and brand. They seem to be lasting longer now as one hasn't burned out in a while !!! I was told it's the humidity that's causing it but I remember the old magnetic days when flourescent fixtures NEVER died, at least NEVER after only ONE year !! I think it's the "made in China" that's causing it !! I just take EVERY dead one back to HD and get a replacement, and YES it is a PITA ! Chryss |
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| Call or ask the lighting/electric dept at HD if they still have magnetic ballast fixtures (Lowe's does not carry them). It usually says on the box. They work fine, and if my memory is correct, they run about $9.99 |
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| I think if I were ever to consider growing indoors, I would go with CFLs. I was just at HD the other day perusing the choices, and noticed that there are "sunlight" CFLs. If you were already set up for tubes it would require a bit of retrofitting, but you could still use the reflectors. Maybe a bit more expensive to switch over...but longer life and you avoid the issues of ballast burn-out. -Bruce C. |
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| Guess I'm lucky -- I'm still using the same fixtures I got at HD about 7 years ago. Not sure who or where they came from... |
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| Interesting, thanks guys. Yeah, the actual fixture has a problem. The lights go off. I try the bulbs in different fixtures and they work. I try different bulbs, that I know work, in this fixture and they don't work. Something just dies. Though one of them is now doing an on and off thing every few hours. Very annoying. They were find for like 2 years, then bam. And they're in my apartment, so humidity is 50% during the summer and somewhat less in winter. I'll look for magnetic ballasts. But at the moment have to return two to HD, and it's just annoying lugging the darn things. Oh, did the HD ones with magnetic ballasts have reflectors too? |
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| They are standard shoplights, look just like the electronic ballast ones being sold there. Get someone in the electric dept who actually knows the difference between ballasts. You have exactly the same problem I had; they turn themselves off, they turn themselves on, they work when they want to, etc. I kept changing bulbs until my husband went out and checked the fixtures themselves. As a retired electrical engineer, he pronounced them 'crap' -- and probably dangerous as well. |
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Hi I've had very good experience with Lights of America fixtures and I run them right on top of aquariums .lol Don't think you can get more humid then that lol gary |
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| I use two of these over my orchids that also get window light. I get less sun in the summer when the sun is high. I also use two of them and a two tube shop light over the orchids that are strickly under lights. They give off the equivalent of 150 watts each. |
Here is a link that might be useful: Lights
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| I have been growing almost exclusively under 48 inch T8 fixtures for several years and I have many of these fixtures. With few exceptions (6 tube high-bay fixtures) they are all from Home Depot (HD). I have most of them with the original Sunpark electronic ballast and more than half of these are in an overdriven configuration, which means essentially that one ballast is driving one T8 tube instead of 2, giving roughly 1.7 times the light output relative to the normal configuration. Originally most of the HD economy shop light fixtures that were badged with "T8/T12 electronic ballast" had the Sunpark SL-15 ballast. Newer fixtures have not had the Sunpark ballast and I have not been using these, rather I have been replacing them with the Sunpark SL15 as I go. The Sunpark ballast is available for about 6 dollars shipped from Sunpark directly, and I have had only 1 ballast failure which was due to my own wiring error. Because of the high cost and heat of running so many fixtures in an overdriven configuration I have been switching out to more expensive GE or Sylvania electronic T8 ballasts that are high output. These are high efficiency ballasts that are giving me nearly the same light output with much less heat and reduced operation cost relative to the Sunpark ballasts. I have been getting them on Ebay for a considerable discount over purchasing from local sources. All of my light banks are running through electronic or mechanical timers. In the Growing Under Lights forum several knowledgeable individuals have suggested that one of the leading causes of premature failure of these electronic ballasts is a failure to run them through a surge suppressor. I am attributing my nearly zero failure rate of my fixtures to this, as all of my fixtures are run from the timer through a surge suppressor extension. Apparently these electronic ballasts are very sensitive to fluctuations in the line electricity supply, and depending on the source can result in early failure of the ballast. Richard |
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| That's interesting, Richard, about the surge. I do use a surge protector, but I've noticed that in my apartment, light bulbs burn out a tad too quickly in a few of the outlets, making me suspect we have power spikes or something. But with the surge protector, I should be protected against that with the fluorescent fixtures, no? Which fixtures specifically are you buying at Home Depot? You mean one fixture that has 6 tubes, or what? Thanks. |
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The fixtures I purchased from HD were either of the 2 cheapest shop light fixtures at my local store. They are 2 tube T-8 fixtures; the cheapest is the $8.53 HBSL-16. This light does not have as nice of a reflector, so when I felt like splurging I bought the HBSL-25G which has a nicer parabolic reflector and a wire guard as well as a pull switch for $16.97. They are both sold under the brand "Commercial electric". The 16 dollar fixture is much better quality, but it is rather wide, which makes it hard for me to get 3 together over one shelf. When I am trying for more light and need 3 sets of 2 tubes I have been setting up 3 of the cheaper narrow fixtures with some aluminum angle stock and wiring them all to run off a single heavy duty cord to reduce clutter. The 6 tube Hi-Bay fixtures I purchased on line from an industrial lighting supply vendor. |
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| Has anybody tried the Hydrofarm T5 systems ?? I KNOW that $170 (plus tax & shipping) is a LOT for a 4 tube system but not if it is as they say, high output daylight mega lumens !! C- |
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| I have a high output T5, not from Hydrofarm but from an ebay seller. It was costly but it does deliver the lumens! It was actually too intense for some of my lower light orchids. I too had problems with the cheap shoplights dying prematurely on me. I vowed to stop buying them and treated myself to the T5 instead. I've also used CFL's, HID's and plain old windows. They all serve a purpose. I will not be buying shop lights any more - not worth the aggravation. |
RE: Suggestions for finding good fluorescent fixtures?
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| watergal, Good to see you back here! The presentation on Viruses in orchids today was very good! --Stitz-- |
RE: Suggestions for finding good fluorescent fixtures?
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| Hi Stitz, thanks for noticing! Been so incrediby busy, and the orchid meetings keep happening on days that I have family obligations. :( |
RE: Suggestions for finding good fluorescent fixtures?
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| Hey, I had same question as you have before some days. But then i found one website for lighting fixtures. This site has lots of varieties in designer lighting.You should also visit http://www.directbuylighting.com/. You will find lots of fluorescent fixtures easily. Thanks Marry LA,USA |
Here is a link that might be useful: Home Lighting Fixtures
RE: Suggestions for finding good fluorescent fixtures?
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| Hey, I had same question as you have before some days. But then i found one website for lighting fixtures. This site has lots of varieties in designer lighting.You should also visit http://www.directbuylighting.com/. You will find lots of fluorescent fixtures easily. Thanks Marry LA,USA |
Here is a link that might be useful: Home Lighting Fixtures
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