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Phal's spike may be?

Posted by Tanie51 none (My Page) on
Sun, Nov 17, 13 at 15:47

Would you expert in orchids tell me this is a spike or a root please? I have been watching this phal, Sine June I have it from someone just about to chuck it out and I took it home. It gave me 6 roots and 4 leaves. This time this little tiny green thing comes out and it does not look like the other roots before. I hope this is a spike. My hope is very high but if you say it's a root, okay, I'll keep on waiting..Thank you!

Tanie


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Here another picture took side way.

Tanie


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I say spike, congratulations. Velleta.


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Yep! Congrats!


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Halleluah!

Thank you Velleta and Terpguy! This is my first spike ever!!

Tanie


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I can't believe it! the exact same thing is happening to my phalaenopsis! And I've had mine since June too. This is also the first spike I've ever had on mine. What are the odds? So cool! We should have a race to see whose orchid blooms first! lol


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Okay Pumpkin, we'll keep our eyes on these to see. Yours looks a bit longer than mine. Do you know what color yours is going to be? I don't and it will be a very nice surprise for me.

Tanie


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Tanie, mine will be white with a little purple/yellow in the center. At least that's what I think. When I bought it, the flowers were dyed blue so It was hard to tell.
Jason


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Exciting! Now comes the wait. Oh, the waiting. I had a phal start a spike in mid-April, and the first flower didn't open until mid-July! I'm not a patient person. However, the blooms lasted until November, so I shouldn't complain at all. Be sure to check back in with your blooms!

I'm currently waiting on an oncidium to show me its flowers (first for me) ... I noticed the spike on September 19, and it's so, so close! Every day I wake up and glare at it. And then I come home from work and glare at it. The buds are a deep purple ... if they would just OPEN! I am not a patient person.

Here is a link that might be useful: Link to my phal post.


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Me too! Just as Jane predicted, although I'm not holding my breath that I'll have blooms by Christmas - and mine is white too. I've been excited about roses, and morning glories, and other flowers, but I've never felt this satisfaction. This one was, at least to my novice eyes, in pretty bad shape when I brought it home from the office lunchroom, and it's going to bloom! Who'd a thunk?? :)


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Congratulations thedogs! Everybody's phals Are blooming all at once!


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Okay Ladies and gentlemen! We'll see whose phal will open first! Make sure you post it so we can see. I am just so excited and Danielle, I come to my orchids about 20 some times a day. First thing I got out of bed, I see my orchids right on my dresser, then I go in my bathroom, I see them right there. Then I go to my kitchen which next to my living room and see them there and I say "good morning beauties" to all of them. Since this phal gives my spike. I sing to them "You are my sun shine" all of the time. My friends said I am crazy and my neighbours probably think so too because whenever I have a moment, I pull a chair and sit next the them and inspect every leaves of every orchid. My orchid friend said to me "just like you're expecting your first child!" and sure it almost true!! I am wondering how long before they bloom. I am hoping it will bloom for my birth month which is February. That would be an exciting wonderful birthday gift!! So, dear orchids expert friends, how long do we have to wait. I can see the spike grow slowly every day.. I think...

Tanie


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I've been putting mine in the laundry room at night - the temperature difference between day and night are what trigger blooming, from what I've learned. The laundry room only has a small space heater to keep the washer hoses and water pump from freezing, and stays about 55 or so. The hard part was to remember to bring it back into the warm house in the morning. I am getting into a routine now_out when I feed the cat, in when I make my breakfast. LOL! I only have the one but I really can't wait till it blooms for me.


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That's what my formerly blue phal looks like. It's re bloomed 2 times already, it's got a spike starting now. Just for the curious ones. It's pretty enough. I like the coloured ones, but white is nice for a change. I injected it with blue food dye for the first rebloom and got some sky blue veining in a few of the flowers (don't have pics sadly). Gonna try again this year.


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Are they okay to move back & forth like that every day Thedogs? I heard from somewhere said they don't like to be moving too much. I have another phal just moved into my bathroom last week. This phal a few weeks ago, gave out something I couldn't have time to know what that was then I accidentally broke it off. I hope it doesn't get mad at me and sulk but I found in my bathroom which is facing east. It has a very nice sun shines in the morning for about an hour and warmer than my livingroom. I close the heating vent and open the window a bit at night. (it's about -12 F and down at night outside here where I live) I hope I'm doing the right thing and it will give me a spike.I also have a dendrobium in the same bathroom and it seem happy there. It gives me 2 new shoots since I got it in May. I hope to see a new spike soon though.


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Here's mine again. Making progress little by little. How's yours tanie?


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I can see yours is more mature than mine. Here's mine. Could you see something on the right to the spike a dot of something growing just beneath the leaf? I do hope it going to be another spike for me!! That would be a double blessing!! May be it just a root, it's too young to tell but I have been watching it like a hawk every 20 times a day or so. It's so exciting!


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Tanie, I have two rescued orchids who have now recovered to the point that I expect a bloom any time now. In my ignorance, I over potted the plants, so they spent the last year mostly filling up the pot with roots. I, too, inspect the plants daily, and watch every bump like a hawk! I have a feeling you will indeed see your flowers in February. A happy birthday present indeed! :)

Today I noticed that the blooms on the oncidium spike I found in September have FINALLY started to open! I'm thrilled to know the color (dark purple), but I'm still looking forward to seeing the flowers fully opened on this tiny twinkle.


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Oh Danielle, puple orchid is my most favorite of all kinds....In fact I even have a website for my jewellery called: purpleorchidjewellery.blogspot.com. I can visioned the beautiful purple orchid flowers you're going to have. Oh how blessed you are! I wish mine will give me some like that too. I don't have purple oncidium like yours but I have a oncidium with big white flowers with dark purple spots on them. They are very pretty to me too. At the moment, it looks healthy and gave me 2 new shoots since I got it in late May or early June. I come to it every day and look inside the leaves beside the pseudobulbs to see if any new thing coming.... Best of luck and enjoy your beautiful orchid...would you post the flowers when they are open for us to admire?

Tanie


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Tanie,I only used the cold laundry room for about two weeks till the spike clearly became a spike. From what I learned here, a temperature drop in the beginning of winter triggers flowering, but there's no need to keep doing it. Once the spike starts, it will keep growing and bloom, given that all other conditions are right.
Danielle, mine is also a rescue - a gift to my employer for a delivery rerouted to the correct place, but no one knew how to take care of it, and some were putting ice cubes on the moss in an effort to help, including me. I found this forum, learned a little and decided to kidnap it, and here I am. Everyone at work wants me to bring it in so they can see it when it blooms again! I won't of course, they'll get photos.
I keep looking at other orchids, but haven't yet bought one. I just can't make up my mind. I think all of you with so many scare me! I'm very much afraid I'll get addicted!!! LOL!!!


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Be careful ThedogsLL, It is very addictive and I love it though. But again, I am very easy to get addicted to these kind of things. Few years ago, I was addicted to making stainglass. I worked so hard at it and so fast you won't believe it. I almost changed all my windows and doors into stainglass. Then I went to making jewellery, for last few years, I got into growing roses. I am still passionate with jewellery and roses. But now is winter, can't do much with roses so, orchids will do me good. Back to orchids, so for the one that has spike on, should I move it to a warmer area of the house? Would it grow a bit faster in a warmer room? I have one I put in the east facing window for sun in the morning and I open the window and close the vent at night and keep the tempt. below 60 F. I hope I am doing the right thing and this plant will give me a spike.

Tanie


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Oh dear,I'm not that experienced. I'm sorry if anything I said made you think I was any kind of expert. :)
I can only tell you that I keep mine at normal temps in my home. I figure if it's warm enough for me, it's good for the orchid. Ideally, I'd be able to provide more tropical, like higher humidity and warmer temps, but that isn't going to happen in New England in the winter. Summers are different - we get plenty warm and humid, lol!
The phal that I have seems to like it. I just used the night time drop in temperature to trigger the spike, because of all I had read, and it worked. I don't have an east facing window at all. Mine is in a southern window, so it gets midday sun, filtered by a mini-blind I adjust depending on what time of year it is. If the sun is too strong I can partially close it. If I remember correctly, phals like temps between about 65-85? Not sure, as it's been a while since I looked it all up.


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Turns out that oncidium wasn't purple! It finally opened, and revealed itself to be an Oncidium Twinkle "Red Fantasy." It's super cute. Looking forward to seeing what your spike's produce in February!


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They are so beautiful Danielle. What a wonderful reward! Enjoy! I can't wait for mine but I don't have a choice...May be if I pretend to look away for a bit (which I can't do) then it will grow a bit faster for me?!


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LOL! Like a pot, waiting to boil, I know. I keep checking mine to see if it's any longer that it was last time. Those are SO pretty, Danielle!


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Danielle, Is your oncidium fragrant?


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Here's an update on mine. It's a little over an inch long. How are your spikes doing?


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Jason,

I'm soooo Jealous! Mine is growning very slow and it seems to be growing sideway. It's dark now but I'll take pic this weekend coming and will post for you to see. Nothing like yours but I still excited and love it anyways.

Tanie


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Sorry Tanie, I didn't mean to make you jealous. By growing sideways do you mean it is growing toward the light? That's what mine is doing. It seems to be growing straight towards the window, except you cant tell in the above photo.That's a problem for me because the plant is right next to the window and I don't want it to get tangled up in the blinds. I'll probably have to train it in another direction if it continues that way. Good luck and I hope yours starts growing faster for you.
Jason


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I measured my spike. It's only 5/8" long. My spike grows under of the leaves. So there's no leaf under it to push it up. So, it looks like it trying to crawl under the leaves and I can't see where it can grow straight up because there's no empty space. I think you're right about going toward the light. I put it by the window too and all the leaves are like an umbrella above the spike. So, I can't see how it will straighten up latter when it grows longer. I another couple of weeks, I'll take picture and post it. Now, there's not much different from last time. Yours looks like it grow very fast compare with mine. And looks a lot bigger too. Enjoy your spike!

Tanie


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Danielle317 your purple orchid is really gorgeous! Im so much in awe, and the fact that most of the flowers opened almost in the same time gives it that wow factor too!.

Although I'm still struggling with my first two orchids (phal and a mini) I would love to be in that situation of spike hunting! Oh I am overthinking so much, can't even imagine my first repotting!
Can't wait for all of your spike updates!


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Mine is growing, but even tho it's only been a little more than a week, it just seems to be taking forever! And I don't know what the turning brown on the outside means. Could I be wrong, and it's not a flower spike but a root again??


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thedogs, It's a spike for sure. They take a few months to mature. I know it's very hard to be patient! :)

Jason


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To answer the question about my Oncidium orchid: it took a few days, but it is incredibly fragrant! I had read several things about them being more fragrant at night, but you can only smell this one in the morning. It's a very sweet smell, like vanilla, but there is a slightly floral note to it as well. Nothing I have ever smelled in a flower before, that's for sure!


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Jason, thanks for confirmation - and yes, it's VERY hard to wait.
Does anyone know - - is there a fragrant Phal? One of the things I insist on in my roses is that they are fragrant, and reading Danielle's post about her orchid makes me want that inside. Especially in the winter and early spring!


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thedogs, here is a thread I found on GW from a few years ago about fragrant phals.

Here is a link that might be useful: Fragrant phals


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Hi Jason, If you want to know how my spike is doing. I just measured it again and at today, it's 7/8" so, for last 5 days, it grows 2/8". VERY slow, but it is testing my patient. How is yours? must getting pretty long now.

Tanie.


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Tanie, have you fertilized your plant lately? I did mine a few weeks back and that's probably why it is growing so fast. Mine will probably slow down its growth for a few weeks though because my family has a new hobby of parking large trailers in front of my window, blocking out all of the light Which makes me SUPER mad. But I suppose that I could keep it in the backyard during the day while my window is blocked. What kind of light does your orchid get? Anyway you might want to try giving it some fertilizer if you haven't already. And yes, Mine is getting long now, past 2 inches already. I didn't expect it to grow so fast. Good luck! :)

Jason


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I do fertilized it with Orchid Food 19-31-17 every second time of watering. Light? not much! it's winter and day is much shorter than night and the sun is very low. I was thinking about getting an octopus lamp for it but first, I couldn't get out of the house and Westoh said that light might be okay because it spiked. So, I will have to let it grow on its own time. Yours has 2 nodes already, mine has only one. I don't know, may be because of the weather is so much colder here than where you are? Any ways, the advantage of growing so slow is that they will be slow in dropping the flowers too I guess. I have 2 buds trying to open for last 2 weeks and still not fully open yet. These are the ones I bought them flowering and budding. Every thing is slow but I am not complaining. As long as they are healthy and doing their thing. I have patient. I am so envy with you who live in beautiful hot weather. I have a terrible snow storm today and yesterday and being snowed in for another couple of days before the snow combine (not real name) to come and plow the snow so I can get out of the house. Can't even doing much baking because don't have enough ingredients....

Tanie


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Jason, thank you for the link. I guess I must not be very good at searching, because I did try looking for phals with fragrance, just didn't find this thread. It's absolutely fantastic - so many names to look up!
Tanie, I also fertilize every other watering, but I don't use commercial fertilizer, so I don't know the numbers. I compost my kitchen scraps using worms in a bin, and I mix some worm castings with water and pour that over the roots after I give it a good drink. It seems to like it. I get a new root or major growth in a new leaf within a week or so of feeding this way. And the spike is now just over 1.25".


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You are so handy thedogLL! I won't have a clue how to compost by worms. Doesn't it smell? May be you have your orchids outside? I will have to stick with commercial fertilizer or I will look to see if there's any organic fertilizer in the green house. in the mean time, I'll have to be happy with what I have and with what my orchid can do for me.

Tanie


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There's no smell when you take care of it right - just like good rich earth, like what you find outside when there's lots of earthworms in the garden or yard or whatever. I don't often have visitors, but when someone comes over, they don't have any idea it's in the kitchen unless I tell them, and then they want to know where? There is actually a forum here on Gardenweb for it, it's called vermicomposting.
I do wish orchid spikes would grow faster, tho. I know this one had really pretty white blooms! And I only have the one orchid. I don't dare put it outside. I'm just a little north of Boston - it's too cold!


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And you SHOULD be happy with your orchid! I don't know yet if using my "natural" fertilizer will be good for it or not. I think so, because it's been really good for my other houseplants, but orchids are different, right? Different is what makes them special!


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Tanie, I would switch your fertilizer. Orchids don't really use much phosphorus, so high phosphorus fertilizer is a waste on them. They won't really enhance your flowers or flower count, especially as an indoor grower. You'd be better off with a balanced 20-20-20 or something organic like kelp meal.


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Thank you all, especially to Terpguy. Would you please tell me what kind (name) of that fertilizer? I have another kind called Liquid Plant Food 10-15-10. But If I have the name of what is 20-20-20 I'll get it this weekend. Thank you.

Tanie.


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Tanie,

Almost any fertilizer with the same 3 numbers (3-3-3, 10-10-10, etc...) would be OK. Just use 1/2 the recommended strength on the label. Just be sure it can be used on ornamentals/roses/etc...

Bob


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Bob got it. But if I may amend a little bit, diluting by half is really only necessary if you have a strong formulation such as MiracleGro 20-20-20. Diluting it in half makes it a 10-10-10 formulation. So if you already have a 10-10-10 or something close to it there is no need to dilute further.

Though I'll be the first to admit I never dilute my miracle gro. Maybe not the best practice but my plants aren't harmed by it.


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terp,

If I'm using MSU I go full strength and when I use the liquid MG with the hose attachment in summers, they get it at that strength also. I do reduce when I use anything else though. I'm adding a seaweed extract to things this winter, it will be added at 1/2 strength or less initially.

Question: Would the lower #'ed ferts already have suggestions/package instructions to use more than the higher #'ed ones?

Thanks,

Bob


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No they won't. It's really more of a common sense thing.


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Here's an update on mine. Growing a little slower lately. What about you guys?

Jason


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Just little bit over an inch for mine!

Tanie


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Just a little over 2" - I turned it around to take the photo. It's usually on the window side. Tanie, I don't know the size of your phal or the pot, but that looks longer than an inch to me!


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Hi ThedogsLL, I didn't post picture of my spike but since you said that, I just measured it right now and it is exact 1.5". I have a question about the light. I saw either Weston or Bob or some of you said that the lights have to be as close as 6" to 12" or something like that. I just went and got an octopus lamp and I think they are a bit too high up. I saw Jane's octopus lamp are right over the leaves. My lamp is if I measure from the light to the top of the leaves, it is about 4-7" but if I measure from the lights to the base of the plants is about 16-18". Could you please tell me would that be okay or it is too far? Another question is that my Nellie is in full bloom. (I bought it just last month). Would it be okay for it to be under the light or should I move it to somewhere else? Thank you!

Tanie


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Tanie,

Generally measured from the top of leaves. If you are using the spiral bulbs (CFL's), your distances are probably fine. What wattage were the bulbs?

Once you get longer spikes, you have to be "inventive" with the positioning.

Bob


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I got 60W and octopus lamp has 5 lights. I bent them down as close as I can. They are all the same size so I spread them out over the orchid table. I will take a picture on the weekend and post it so you will have an idea. Now, I leave to work when it dark, come home when it dark.... Weekend will be good time to take pictures. I still need you to help me answer the question about my Burr Nelly, should I leave it there with the lights or should I move it somewhere more natural bright instead?

Thank you Bob!

Tanie


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Tanie, (and Jason) - I do apologize - I didn't notice the dividing line between your post and Jason's. I thought that last image was Tanies. OOPS on my part.
Since I only have the one phal, I don't have supplemental light. What it gets is from the window behind it.
I thought about picking up some "regular" fertilizer, but it's doing fine on what I'm doing so far, so I think I'll let it go on and see what happens. Might work, might not, so we'll see. :)


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Hi Bob & Jane, I just took a couple of pictures of the lamp eventhough it's dark but you can see what the distance between the lights and the plants and please tell me if that is okay. If not, I will raise the table up a couple of inches.

Thank you,

Tanie


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Here's another picture.


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Distances look fine to me... I'm assuming you got 60 watt equivalents, they will work but look for the 100-120 equivalents when they need replaced. I think those (100-120 watt equivs) are 23-27 watts as far as the CFL wattage rating. It gets confusing.

Just to add more confusion :-), I actually look at the # of lumens produced, the more the better. You can find the lumens on the packaging.

Bob


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Thank you Bob, Yes, they are 60W. These bulbs take at least 5 years to burn out unless since I leave them on for 12-16 hours/d would make different.

Tanie


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I exchanged the bulbs to 100W and found another kind or orchid liquid plant food which is 15-5-5. I couldn't find anything with equal # except for general house plants. Is this okay? and should I still use only 1/2 strength? Thank you in advance.

Tanie


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Tannie, you can use any fertilizer, it doesn't have to say 'orchid'.
Congrats on your lights, they look great and I bet you will have beautiful flowers. Watch your spike that it doesn't get too close to the bulbs, you don't want it to get too hot.

Great job!

Jane


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Thank you Jane, now I have another question. I just found this little tiny green thing coming out next to the new leave of the same phal that is spiking. It doesn't look like a leaf because I saw new leaf came from the top like this would be flat. This is kind of round and it coming quite quickly compare with spike in the bottom of all these leaves. Would root come out from the top? I am so curious. Would any of you experienced can identify this thing. I guess I can wait but I am too anxious to wait. Thank you,

Tanie


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For some reason, last post picture didn't come through.


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It could be another spike

Jason


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Really! that is too good to be true! That would be DOUBLE HAPPINESS!

But I am not letting myself too excited yet. Does spike grow on top of the plant? I thought spikes only grow in between the leaves.

tanie


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Tanie, I'm not sure if the spikes can grow from the top or not. Does it look to be the same shape as the other spike was when it firs emerged?(shaped kind of like a mitten)

Jason


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Spikes can grow from the very top. Problem is that it spells doom for the plant. The reason is because it indicates the lead growig point (meristem) has converted from a foliage meristem to a flowering meristem. So new leaves cannot grow. Often a basal keiki can form (depending on the species behind the hybrid). So you get the plant back but it takes a few years.


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Thank You Terp! Okay then, whatever it is, it is! Did I do anything to make spike grow like that or it does it own thing? If I did something to make it grow like that, would you tell me so I know and won't do it any more. I like flowers but if the flowers will prevent further growth and bloom then that's not too good.
Jason, it is too small yet for me to see. I will have to wait for another week or at least few more days to see it more clearly. I have another question about the lamp. I hope Jane or Bob or any of you can help me out. I just got the octopus lamp as you can see it the couple of posts before this one. I turn it on around 8 pm, and turn it off around 7:30 or 8 next morning. Now my other friend told me that I should let the plants in the dark at night and keep light on during the day instead. What I thought was turn the light at night in addition to the not enough light at day. So, would you please tell me how to do this? Thank you.

Tanie


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Tanie, the plant is doing its own thing. Nothing you can do about it.

Re: your light timing, give it darkness. Plants are naturally adapted to and require a dark spell for proper metabolism. As you begin to explore other genera, you discover that many actually require the darkness in order to bloom (unifoliate Cattleyas come to mind, as well as short day Phalaenopsis type Dendrobiums).

Follow nature on this. Keep the lights on only during the day, let them go off at night. What you are thinking of, using extended length of time of artificial light to supplement inadequate lighting, only works to a point before you start negatively impacting the plants metabolism and natural circadian rhythms, thus potentially negatively affecting the growth and health of the plant. A good rule of thumb would be no more than 16 hours of light per day, preferably shorter during the winter.

A timer is your friend on this and makes your life much easier!

The plants on my light cart are currently on a timer for 11 hours of light per day with 200W equivalent CFLs.

This post was edited by terpguy on Mon, Dec 16, 13 at 22:18


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Thank you very much Terp!

I have so much to learn and it's so good to have you all help me when I need it. Sometime I tried to be independent searching on Internet and all that but still this forum is best resource for me.

Jason,

How is your orchid's spike? I imagine it might be over 3 or 4"? Mine is about 2". I still don't know how it will come out under whole bunch of leaves. I hope the lamp light will draw it upward and find the way out. Poor thing, looks like it bending its back all the time.


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Tannie,

I'm a little more 'hard-driving' than terp as my lights run from 5:45AM to 9:45PM most of the year, cut back to 12 hours for about 4-6 weeks in the fall... They must have the dark period. As terp said, follow nature.

Bob


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Thank you Bob. Will get a timer today! Wish you all have a great day!

Tanie


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I always gave mine 18hrs in winter. My Phals went out for the summer and when they came in they were already spiking. As were the dends. The plants growing by the large windows got about 7hrs of light from the lamps. I had the timer set to turn on at sunset and run until about midnight.

The plants growing in the room without natural daylight got 18hrs from the lamps. Again, they were already spiking. I did not find any detriment by running the lamps for 18hrs. The lamps are supplementing the lack of sunlight and they are not strong enough to do that unless you extend the light time-length.

You can judge by the growth of the spikes. The more light the faster the spike grows. If the light is too weak, it could stall. You also need to make sure the room is warm enough.

I would not run the lights all night. Everything needs to sleep!

Jane


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Terp is right. You are probably getting a keiki. The plant might have been stressed or in bad shape and is making a baby plant. This can happen and its better than having the plant die and producing nothing. You can just let it grow.

Jane


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Tanie, Mine has been growing very fast. Over 6" already.
I don't know what I did to make it grow so fast. Do you mind posting a picture of yours? I'd like to see what it looks like.

Jason


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Nice! Mine is about 3" now. Is there a certain point where I should put the support and clips back on? I think it's too short just yet, but I don't want to risk breaking it either.

Lynn


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Hi Jason,

Mine is nothing like yours at all. It's also hard to take a picture because I have to take from underneath the leaves or turn it up-side-down. I'll do it on the weekend if you REALLY want to see it.
Thank you for posting yours picture.

Tanie


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Hi Jason and all,

Here is my spike update as today.

Tanie


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Wow, Tanie! I see what you mean now! But I think it'll be fine. My daughter is here from IN, for Christmas, and she's got a few orchids. I showed her your photo, and she said she's had two do the same thing, and she also pointed out the little sprout on the left side. She says it may turn out to be a double spike! The curved one should grow out from under the leaf, and keep going.

Merry Christmas, everyone!


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Wow! is it unusual or what ThedogsLL?, if it is a double spike, and then another spike on the top, (I know the one on top is a spike now because it shows as a shape of a mitten). I hope it will stay alive for me after all this spikes bearing. Thank you for letting me know.

Tanie.


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Here's an update on mine. How is everyone else doing?


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A little bit longer, now about 4". I did decide to change to a regular fertilizer so I'd know exactly what's in it.


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Here are mine. The one under all the leaves is starting to see "I think I'm out of the tunnel!" and starts to turn it's head out as you can see here. The one of top of the plant is doing fine and growing!

Tanie


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LOL! Tanie, that is so cute! It's like - peeking out from under the leaf. I bet it'll start growing faster now, too. It's a race to the finish!

Lynn


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I just wanted to post a note here that this thread is one of the most encouraging & informative things I have read about Phal orchids.

I'm in year 2 of my orchid ownership adventure and I've yet to have a single bloom*- and now I know why! They're clearly the happiest silly plants I've ever seen because they keep throwing out leaves and roots like it's a game. I must have put them in too big a pot!

Anyway I just wanted to thank everyone whose contributed to this!

*I had a spike and then the cats knocked the plant over and it broke off and a keikei grew on the nub and then the whole thing died. Very depressing, not worth thinking about.


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Oh, that's just awful! If my cat did that, she just might get, well, into trouble.

I also am really new to orchids. I have only one, but have to admit that tomorrow I will triple that number. Home Depot sent me a coupon for a BOGO on orchids. They only have phals, so I'm going to pick, to the best of my ability, the best two on the shelf, and see what happens. If nothing else, it will give me something to do with the rest of the bag of orchid bark I bought for the first one. :) From what I've seen, they are massively packed into tiny pots with tight moss. I totally get into rescue, you know, hehe.


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Hi Lynn,

Where do you get the coupon for orchids? I was there couple of days ago, they had some on sale but still 13.99. And Jane, they have octopus lamps there now too the same kind I got for $19.99. I'm going there to pick one up tomorrow. Don't know where to use it yet but for that price, I'm going to stock up....

Tanie,


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Good idea, Tanie. I used the lights for other orchids too. Maybe its time for you to try a few new varieties! The lights work great even on dirt plants.

I had 4 Plumerias which I grew outside each summer. They were in large pots. Some would begin to bud just as the weather was getting cold. I'd bring the big pots inside and stick them under the octopus lights and they would continue to flower.

I also used them to finish spikes on Dends which would begin to spike in Sept. but needed more light to grow the spike. The lamps were good supplements to the window light.

Buy a bunch!

Jane


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Hi Jane,

I never had orchid outside in my yard but planned to have a few this spring coming. I have spot in the corner of my fence and garage where too shady for my roses. ( I mean no direct sun light) Do you think I can have a couple of orchids there? and if I can, would you advice me what kind? I can't wait for spring!

Tanie


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Tanie, you have to join Home Depot's Garden Club to get the coupons. They send different ones through the year. Summer 2012 I got one for buy two hostas, get one free. I don't know if they will still send one if you join now or not - but if you want to try, the link is below. I think. I've never added a link to GW, so I hope it works. We'll see.

I added two new phals today. I got some photos before they drop the buds. It isn't very cold out today, so I'm hoping they won't, but they had to ride in my Jeep for a couple of hours. If they do it's okay. The roots and leaves are really healthy.

Here is a link that might be useful: Home Depot Garden Club


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Yaaayyyy!! The link worked!


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Thank you Lynn!

Tanie


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BUDS!!!!!!!


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