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Zoning? Long and boring

Posted by gandle 4 NE (My Page) on
Sun, Jun 23, 13 at 16:24

The house nexr door where the semi-invalid woman lived sold about a year ago. They were asking way too much and kept coming down in asking price. I made an offer but knew it probably wouldn't do it. The buyer didn't do anything with it until a few weeks ago. They live north in our street in a more modern house that this one. Next door house is a good enough older house but maintenance has been almost nil since neighbor woman husband died about 8 years ago.

I asked the young man who bought it if he thought it would fix up to be a good investment property. He said "no, just going to use it when we dress the game we get and put a couple of beds in it when my folks come to visit".

That kind of floored me, a couple of beds in a place you use for dressing out game you kill. Thought there would be a lot less expensive places to dress game and even put up your folks in a motel did see him with 4 friends bring in a bunch of wild turkys they shot plus many geese.

But when he told me a couple of weeks ago he was going to build a smokehouse in the back yard I just thought that was odd. BUT, when he actually got a permit from the city to build it I was suprised. He and a friend had a foundation poured and a week later built the smokehouse from concrete blocks. Guess it would be 8' by 12'.

Now we find out he has been making several kinds of sausage next door and began smoking them 2 days ago. Apparently it takes about 12 hours to smoke-cure a batch.

This guy has a scheme really dumb sounding to me but he is a transplanted Cajun and says the oilfield workers in North Dakota will buy all he can produce and he is going to make a lot of Cajun dishes and freeze them in pound packages. Don't know what they were cooking over a large propane burner in the backyard in a massive caldron but it smelled heavenly. His teen age daughter was stirring it with something that looked like a stainless steel canoe paddle. After a couple of hours she would scoop samples and take in the house only to come back and stir some more. I saw him with a big thermometer checking it a couple of times when they pronounced it done they scooped the product into small vats with handles and carried it in the house.

Now our house smells of smoke and am hoping for a change in wind direction.

You would THINK that the city inspector in charge of building permits would have checked with neighbors before issuing and I am quite sure there is no health inspector checking on it. Maybe since it won't be sold locally or in the state he doesn't need a license to produce this but not sure I would want to eat a product that had originated in a place I cleaned game. Enough.

Leone is working at the museum this afternoon and evening and I can't do the ceiling remodel in a spare bedroom without someone on the floor so I'm sitting here boring everyone, maybe put you to sleep.

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RE: Zoning? Long and boring

Hi gandle, zoning issues are not boring to me. Lol, my neighbors and I have been known to take on city hall, and we won............
BTW, try to make sure that all he is "cooking" is meat.
Keep sniffing the air for other odors than smoke and meat.

You are not boring me to sleep. Glad to see that you are proactive in questioning the activity of the neighbors.

RE: Zoning? Long and boring

  • Posted by mwheel East. WV-Z.6 (My Page) on
    Sun, Jun 23, 13 at 18:46

George, I know you and Leone are good neighbors, and wouldn't want to "stir the pot", so to speak--pun intended--but please don't let this evolve into a situation that could make your lives uncomfortable. Cleaning animals and cooking food --with smoke and smells--outside, doesn't sound too neighborly to me!

Of course, all the above is just my opinion.

RE: Zoning? Long and boring

I would ask the city when your area was changed to commercial and why you were not informed.

RE: Zoning? Long and boring

I can go from zero to b!tch in about 2 seconds on issues like this. So I'll just make one quick comment and then back out.

George, I hope this gets resolved in a way that is healthy, comfortable and acceptable for you and Leone.


RE: Zoning? Long and boring

"I can go from zero to b!tch in about 2 seconds on issues like this." - me, too, Karen.

Suggestion - contact your local Health Department. I have never heard of any city or state to allow human food that will be sold to be prepared in a kitchen that is not approved and licensed by the Health Department. Also, he is talking interstate sales - that falls under Federal law. Of course, the state and IRS will want him registered and numbered so they can collect taxes - they're sort of funny about that. I realize that he is probably planning to do his business by the light of the moon rather than in sunlight. He may be in 'gater area there!

RE: Zoning? Long and boring

He is in violation of federal law for sure. A neighbor who had considerable acreage started a mail-order sausage business - he also had a store in town. The FDA inspections and rules are very strict, his facilities were inspected and he had to make some alteration to satisfy the FDA, among other requirements: his facility could not be used for any other purpose, he had to make an office, including toilet facilities, available the the FDA inspector, who never showed up once, all the rules were essentially the regulations for large producers.
In addition of course, his store was under regulation from the local health department.
It was a solo operation, his spouse helped at times, no other employees.
I don't now what the local rules are for him, but he definitely is violating Federal regulations big time

RE: Zoning? Long and boring

mjmercer, me too.

RE: Zoning? Long and boring

So George do you have an update? Have you contacted anyone? This is pretty interesting even to someone like me in a coop...and it's lovely when you know so many people care and are willing to give advice as per above.


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