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Stuff outside the house - next chapter.

jim_1 (Zone 5B)
9 years ago

On July 22, I spotted this creature in my elderberry (Sambucus - Black Lace). I had to do some research before I was able to determine what I was seeing.

This is the caterpillar for the Cecropia moth. It seems that they feed on maple and apple and pear trees. I have all of those, but this one was on my Black Lace. Dark foliage makes it stand out, which might lead to its early demise. It would be more natural to exist on the green-leaf trees.

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  • jim_1 (Zone 5B)
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    Here is one of the photos from 8/6. Much larger and some of the colors are changing a bit.

    Again, more research was needed. These caterpillars go through several stages where they shed their outer layer and then continue to grow. What I find interesting is that once they have done their eating routine, they will make a cocoon and that will be it until next spring (possibly May - depending on our winter weather). I don't know if a cocoon will be be spun on this plant, or what. I will continue to check on a twice a day basis.

  • jim_1 (Zone 5B)
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    I little different angle and a lot bigger caterpillar. This was taken on 8/9. There is no attempt to camouflage itself. Bold colors (which are interesting in itself), keeps it from blending into its surroundings.

    More information about the moth. Once it emerges in the spring, it will exist only for a short time. The moth has not mouth parts and will not be able to eat. It exists solely to procreate and then die. The moths are nocturnal, so I doubt that I will ever see one of them live.

    Here is a link that might be useful: Cecropia moth adult

  • sweet_betsy No AL Z7
    9 years ago

    What a cool caterpillar! Thanks for showing us.

  • jim_1 (Zone 5B)
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    I took this photo this morning. Still chewing away. It pauses every once in a while to digest, I guess. The caterpillars breathe through small slits behind their chewing mechanism. The mouth is strictly for ingesting foliage.

  • jim_1 (Zone 5B)
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    Aha! I discover a second one! I really knot know how I missed it. They are on the same side of the plant, but on different branches. One of them is working its way from the top (will not eat new growth) and the other working its way from the center to the top.

    A neighbor asked if I had named them. I decided not to do that, as I cannot determine their sex!

  • jim_1 (Zone 5B)
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    Here is a good close up.

    AMAZING!

  • jim_1 (Zone 5B)
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    It dawned on me today to look farther. This is their waste. It appears, on close examination, as though it were an extruded, perfectly symmetrical product.

  • ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5
    9 years ago

    are you sure those arent mulberries.. lol ..

    brilliant pix ... thx

    ken

  • gmatx zone 6
    9 years ago

    Jim, as usual your pictures are so good. It is amazing to see the detail of the caterpillar's chewing apparatus in that picture. I have read before that some creatures, frogs for instance, have bright colors on their body to scare off predators as the colors make them think the frog is bad tasting or poisonous.

  • west_gardener
    9 years ago

    Jim, excellent photos,
    Luv your subject posting. Your next chapter is a very happy moth.
    Oh, I have to admit that the caterpillar is cute.

  • lilosophie
    9 years ago

    Such an unusual caterpillar, I like the coloring very much. We don't have those creatures here in the West.

  • jim_1 (Zone 5B)
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    Madame Monarch on milkweed in the back yard.

  • jim_1 (Zone 5B)
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    Not more than 18 inches away, a monarch caterpillar. Hooray! None last year, all those milkweed plants and the only things to enjoy them were the oleander aphids.

  • jim_1 (Zone 5B)
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    A close view of oleander aphids. They suck the milky sap from the milkweed. I have deadheaded many flowers this year to try to keep them under control to no effect. Supposedly, lacewings and lady bugs love to dine on these, but I have not seen either one in the garden this year.

  • anneliese_32
    9 years ago

    Great pictures. The caterpillar has such a lovely coloring.

    Jim, do you have near you by any chance a streetlight? Quit often you find dead moths underneath them. They kill themselves hitting the light.
    I just mentioned yesterday to my husband that I have not seen any lacewings this year and the ladybugs are missing too. A couple of years ago we had an invasion of the Asian ladybugs and was told that they displaced our red ones.

  • west_gardener
    9 years ago

    Madame Monarch, is milking the Milkweed ,
    Fab photo.

  • jim_1 (Zone 5B)
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    No street lights, we are in a 10 year old subdivision that just got annexed into the city. I have a 25 watt bulb in a yard light and a few of the neighbors keep their garage lights on, but that is it out here in the sticks.

    There had been three monarch caterpillars; however, this morning, I found only three! Several weeks ago, I saw a Black Swallowtail caterpillar on some dill. After about one week it disappeared. I looked around and have not been able to discover a spot where it might have gone. Today, while doing stuff outside, I did see a Black Swallowtail bouncing around the yard. It sill have lots of dill and carrot tops for snacking. We'll see.

    In the meantime, "Fred and Ethel" are still chewing away. Here's a photo from Wednesday evening.

  • west_gardener
    9 years ago

    You are talking disappearing dill? Been there, done that, but it only took two days for my dill plants to be eaten down to the stalks.
    I had planned to make "gravelax" a cured salmon with salt and
    dill but somebody got to the diill before I did.Sigh.

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