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Idyll#382 .... June is Busting Out All Over!!

Posted by ctlavluvr (My Page) on
Mon, Jun 2, 08 at 8:36

Show us what's busting in your gardens! (See discussion forum for mine .. Monday Morning Mistake!!) LOL

Carry on..

Martie


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Just a drive by... Much mowing to do after I return from the vet's.
'bug

Here is a link that might be useful: Marties update


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Excellent photos!

Woody...your Tiarella in the woodland garden is looking terrific. I put one in two years ago and it's not looking that happy, smaller this year than last. You must be doing something right! :-) Love all your large trees. Getting pretty excited about your rose swag. Now that you have the posts and chains up, it's starting to really give a good idea of how it's going to look and I think it is going to be stunning!

Kathy, you have a new computer! So what did you decide on? Too bad about the Birch Trees, they are one of my favorites. I saw one in your side yard, didn't I? I thought it looked really great. Is it because it is still young?

If you are dying for A. 'Ravenswing', well gosh, your vining Jasmine over the garage door is making me green! You've done a lot of work I imagine to get it to hang like that. Great job! Our oldest is currently exploring cactus, I will have to show him that photo of your orchid cactus. So huge! How old do they have to be to bloom like that? And your lilies are eye-popping! Your neighbors must love your garden, do they ever ask you for tours or cuttings?

Norma...great looking KnockOut Roses...healthy looking and large flowers. Do you get any fragrance on yours? I love your second photo with the Clematis on the Obelisk next to the Knock Outs. Really lush looking, you must be so happy with that pairing. How many Japanese Maples do you have, Norma? I have one Bloodgood. I keep remarking to my husband that the seed pods look like cherry candy this year. I tried to take a photo but it was windy. I just couldn't get a good photo. This one really doesn't show how delicious it looks...lol.

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Sue, my knockout is not looking as good as usual. I decided at the last minute not to prune it back and I am blaming it on that. Just doesn't seem as vigorous and the foliage is not as healthy looking. I seem to have thripes and aphids this year for the first time on three of five roses. The ladybugs are taking care of the aphids, but the thripes are making a mess of the buds. Being organic, I usually try to let things work themselves out, so I am in a wait and see mode right now. Hope I am not making a mistake. I'm getting so attached to roses. [g]

I've heard many coyote reports this year, if I had pets or small children, that would drive me crazy. I wonder what the towns are planning to do with increasing populations?

Mary...we've got some roof iris here too and Guacamole Hosta is one of my favorites! Yours is looking particularly healthy and full. What I love about them are the flowers which are so large and very fragrant.

That fairy is just soooo...tiny! How do you make them so small?! Do you use a magnifying glass? You do have a certain spirit Mary! :-) I wonder if you might write a great children's book. Illustrate it too! Ahhh...a Pop up Book!

Denise...I'd love a larger photo of that arctotis and purple orach combination. The Calandrina has quite distinctive flower buds...so cute. I love all your grasses, too. You do a great job incorporating them into your garden.

Deanne...I think you are outdoing yourself this year! I'm in love with your yellow containers and that second photo with the solid yellow coleus...the only one I've seen that was that solid a yellow, was called 'Brighter Day', what is the name of yours? Most I find locally are more of a chartreuse than a yellow. It looks gorgeous in that pot and to me the pink is perfect with it. I can see why the limestone square pot is your favorite, it is very elegant.

So a great time was had by all at Tower Hill and Saucy's for lunch. I have yet to make it to Tower Hill, but I am going to make more of an effort this year to finally get there. Saucy, your DH sounds like a keeper. [g] and it looks like you had a ball picking out plants. Love that Hakone grass. Glad you all had the chance to get together!

V...I heard that the Chicago area was very storm prone, but gee, you are having a lot. Are you near the Great Lakes?

Brenda....so sorry about your back. My DH has had a lot of back problems and sometimes it seemed it was something simple that did it...like a sneeze or turning, but often that small event had been preceded by doing something more problematic, like lifting, that he seemed to get away with at the time. Hard to figure out sometimes. He used to go to chiropractors all the time, but began to feel he had more problems when he was going. I have known people who swear by them though. Now he has gone to a PT specialist who has a Master's in working just with backs. DH has been religious this time around to keep going to the PT workout area to use their equipment twice a week every week to try to keep things from flaring up again. I hope your back feels better very soon! I am sure farm life is hard on a back.

Eden, that is some list of plants. Hope we will see photos of them later in the season. :-) I think I remember you posted photos of Jenni's house and garden. Look forward to an update. Her property is so cute!

Gardenbug....Very homey and cozy B&B you visited. Amazing how talented some people are. The owners of that B&B just really know how to make a home. I am happy to know there are still wild places where such beautiful wildflowers grow. So, are you feeling rested? How did Phoebe do while you were away?

Michelle...I bet we all really pay attention to the flowers at weddings...lol..I know I do! :-) So glad you are making progress in the Secret Garden. Hope you are taking lots of photos.

We had a quiet weekend. Not quite feeling great since going out on Thursday, but I am starting to feel a little better today. Enjoying this great weather! Enough of the garden is ready for summer that I am not stressing over it.

I have a sparrow nesting in my one and only birdhouse. I hear you shouldn't allow them to nest because they are driving all the native birds out. Last year a chickadee started to nest in the box but abandoned it before we saw any babies. I haven't seen any chickadees here since winter this year. Anyone have birdhouses that are used in their garden?

Hello to all... :-)


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Martie...I am also enjoying your progress photos. It is fun to see how different a garden can look in only a couple of years. What is the seedling that is flowering in the first photo? Your peonies are ahead of mine, which have not opened yet. LOVE that last photo!

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An official Good Morning from Martie!! These last few weeks have been riotous -- some good, some bad, some in-between.

As for the photos -- the seedlings are Blutonia Bacopa and Misty Lilac Wave Petunia.

Thanks, again, for the encouragement! A friend of a neighbor who hadn't been to the cul-de-sac since we moved in was around during the weekend and walked around with her jaw to the grass. It doesn't look like much until it does :-)

Anyway ....

Have enjoyed a wonderful Monday morning completely off (no forwarded work to cell phone, no laptop, 100% coverage!!!) catching up with all of you. So many interesting things happening and so much "life."

I think it's really cool, Michelle, that you're helping your mom replant some spaces.

Bug's discovery of "exotic" impatiens makes me smile because it is a magnificent plant that's not been readily available for far too long. Mixed with any angel wing begonia will really set off how waxy the foliage can be.

Roses, roses, roses! Through all of you my rose season has been extended by at least a few months.

I can smell your Jasmine from here, Kathy, and am jealous beyond belief that you can grow it outside.

Ditto Kathy's "mess." LOL

Saucy's house is perfect for her geographic locale and I can certainly "see" the gardens taking shape!

Just got a call from Select Seeds that their clean off the benches sale is this coming Friday and Saturday. Anyone??

Brenda -- Sorry, but all I could think of was "this little piggy goes to market" "this little piggy stays home" "etc.". Better than counting sheep, me thinks :-) Good to see you!

Now must run for the first of several Dr.'s appts in anticipation of my very long overdue hysterectomy. No threatening diseases are present at all (grateful!!!!) but feeling absolutely like crap for three weeks of every month when it simply isn't necessary anymore now seems just stupid on my part. My body meets every single insurance criteria for payment of the procedure (even the ins co asked me why I've waited for so long) so away we go! Methinks Rich is more excited than me :-)

Will be around a bit more often, I hope.

Waving to everyone!!

Martie


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Pm2, we hear coyotes here frequently. Just the other night they were very close to our house with their howling. All the neighhood dogs were baking! I was worried because all three cats were outside. I went out on the front porch and yelled and clapped my hands. I didn't hear them any more that night. So far I do not know of them getting the neighborhood cats. Old Calliecat is 17, and never been indoors, She is deaf to boot! There are gobs of rabbits here, maybe that is the answer. :-)


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My sympathies to your family, Marian. My 17 yr old nephew in Wyoming is just starting to drive, so we're a bit nervous on that account. He has very high functioning autism/asperger's so we don't know quite what to expect.

Martie, you are a force of nature. Ethel Merman would play you in the musical ;) Nice to have that medical decision out of the way and I know with your grit you'll sail through.

'bug, the B&B is to die for. What a gorgeous place. The bulb displays in the colder zones just knock me out, the tulips with the dark-lvd geranium (maybe Elizabeth Ann, like mine?)

Deanne, shame over my ignorance prompted me to Google about my hummers, and they're probably Anna's Hummingbird (Calypte anna) . I didn't realize having them year-round was unusual.

PM, my photo skills are so lame but here's another attempt of the atriplex/orach, unsized, but the arctotis still doesn't come through much.

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Oy!!! Ravenswing everywhere here. The county may just send out their control officers! It is all over my compost area along with Sweet Cicely, Bog Jacob's Ladder, bleeding hearts and candelabra primula. Amazing....but TOO MUCH!

Spent 4 hours mowing...and there's more to go. Lunch was calling my name though.

Be back later I expect.
'bug


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Back from another visit to the "bonecrusher", as my DH so eloquently puts it.
PM2-the chiropractor helps, but the majority of the work on my back is up to me. When I'm doing yoga consistently, I don't have a bit of trouble with it. Of course, I was skipping the yoga during farming..the time I really NEEDED to be doing it. I'm seriously considering bringing my big exercise ball down in the living room. I think if I laid across it on my stomach, I could finally be comfortable. Meanwhile, light stretches and no yard work for a little while. It's supposed to rain most of the week, so I guess the yard work is a moot point, anyway.
Denise-Did you ever read the book "Born on a Blue Day"? I can't think of the guy's name right off the top of my head, but he also has very high functioning asperger's, and is a whiz with numbers. Memorized pi out to some phenominal number of digits. He sees numbers as color, and has done some amazing watercolors from mathematical equations. It was a fascinating and inspiring book.
Lol, Martie, I often think of "this little piggie". We got 268 little ones in yesterday, and so the cycle continues. I hope all goes well with the hysterectomy. My sister had one several years ago..no serious medical problems, but being enough of a bother to make her decide to go that route. She's never regretted it. I have to think Jim would be VERY supportive if I decided to go that route, lol! 17 years, and he still doesn't know better than to torment a grouchy bear...go figure!
Marian, we have a lot of coyotes around here, too. Creepy to hear them at night, and the dogs both go crazy when they hear them. I'm glad we don't have livestock outside anymore to worry about.
Still have much catching up to do, but I do recall seeing pictures of Saucy's place...very cool!
I can't sit in the office chair for very long, so I'd better sign off for now. I'll see if that giant exercise ball is indeed a comfort zone. I'm beyond the point of caring how ridiculous I look....if I can be in comfort for a little while, it will be well worth it. Now, if I can just figure out how to balance me on the ball, and an ice pack on my hind end and still see the tv...won't life be SWEET!?!
Take care, all!
Brenda


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Back from the docs.

LOL Ethel Merman. Only if I can keep her chest.

Going out to LALAT with cold drink for a bit. This'll be my view. Com'on over!

A year ago......

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Yesterday from the opposite direction, with a few more things finally placed.

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Martie


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OK, here's my ghetto list so far:

1 iris (mystery, blue & yellow)
2 Iris ensata 'Ruffled Dimitry'
verbascum Jackie in Pink
Pink Thrift
2 small dictamnus (white & pink)
2 zucchini (planted)
native columbine
Baptisia Purple Smoke
Golden Wings Rose (own root!)
Heucheras: Mocha Mint, Caramel and Citronelle
Leucojum
Ajuga Black Scallop
Silver thyme
1 other plant...starts with an "h", but I can't think of the name! I hate when that happens! HEY! It is hyssop!

So much came into bloom over the 2 days we were away! Peony, columbine, Amsonia, Clematis Alpine Willy, gentians and more. :)


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I'm reformed. NO ghetto this year. I've been planting as I buy. It's a good feeling:)

Marie, what a great trip! And what great kids you have to have given it to you!

My first clematis blooms of the season...

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Eden


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OK, here's my ghetto list so far:

1 iris (mystery, blue & yellow
2 Iris ensata 'Ruffled Dimitry'
verbascum Jackie in Pink
Pink Thrift
2 small dictamnus (white & pink)
2 zucchini (planted)
native columbine
Baptisia Purple Smoke
Golden Wings Rose (own root!)
Heucheras: Mocha Mint, Caramel and Citronelle
Leucojum
Ajuga Black Scallop
Silver thyme
1 other plant...starts with an "h", but I can't think of the name! I hate when that happens!!!

So much came into bloom over the 2 days we were away! Peony, columbine, Amsonia, Clematis Alpine Willy, and more. :)


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Ghetto lists aren't compulsory, are they?! Mine is by no means as illustrious as 'bug's. And re the anthriscus, one woman's weed is another woman's prized umbellifer. Wouldn't mind having weedy bleeding hearts either. Or primulas. Sweet Cicely starts with an "m" but what? Oh, yes, myrrhis. I can do without my weedy haloragis, labrador violets, ipheion, and stipa grass, though.

Had an impromptu pot reshuffling episode today, a mood which seems to strike hard when work deadlines are piling up, but I think the summer seasonal staging area is coming together, just needed a fresh pair of eyes today. Weather has been mild enough to dig and move stuff around, like some blue asters getting too much shade.

Eden, the fountain and that clematis, ooh-la-lah! My little Rooguchi has its first bloom about to open. Clematis need the patience of saints, not my strong suit. Thought I'd never see the day...


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Just a quick post of a couple of things busting out here on this June day...

Tree peonies are doing incredibly well this year:
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So is the Chinese wisteria:
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I think it was Sue who asked if this is Amethyest Falls. It's not; the tag just says 'Blue' which sounds more like a color description than a name, except it's in quotes like a name. I'll try to get a picture of the whole thing but it's too sunny for taking pictures today. It's still relatively young so the flowering is not as dense as I hope it will be in a few years. But it's pretty - and very fragrant.

And Misty didn't eradicate the bunny population totally unfortunately:
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Several people have said they have seen foxes in the neighbourhood again so hopefully the bunny population will decrease soon!

Gotta run....


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Denise...that is much better and a very pretty composition. So is the little pink flower the orach blooming? What do I see in the upper left hand corner? buds that are long and horizontal? The white/silver is very pretty with the dark foliage. I guess I am not putting that on my list though, if it gets going all over the yard. I will content myself with enjoying yours, Denise! Oh, and I don't know why you say your photo skills are lame. All the photos you have posted have been great! :-)

Our neighbor has a son with asperger's and he is the sweetest boy. He is a junior in high school and loves basketball. I hadn't thought about the driving coming up soon.

Marian...Sounds like it probably is the rabbits that are attracting them. Maybe that will keep them disinterested in the cats. We are more urban here and there isn't a large rabbit population and I think the cats are their main diet unfortunately. According to the local animal control, the missing cats has increased tremendously. I think that is why there are more and more 'indoor' cats. Marian, how is your camera working? Missing photos of your garden. :-)

Martie...had a cousin who had to have a hysterectomy early after many years of constant problems and she felt much better. Glad you are enjoying your garden so much after all the hard work you put into it. I wish you were closer, I would love to come and sit and LALAT with you. :-)

Gardenbug...four hours of mowing?! Is that weekly? I am surprised that Jacob's Ladder and Bleeding heart are reseeding near the compost. Do you work a 'hot' compost pile? How is it that your Peonies are blooming already in zone 5 Canada and here in z6, I am still waiting? I am maybe a week away from an open bloom. I almost bought some of that Verbascum Jackie in Pink. I have some Verbascum Violette that is just so pretty this year. I have been amazed that despite quite a bit of strong winds, they are still standing up well. I added Verbascum Southern Charm this year, which are just plugs at this point. Love the Heuchera Mocha Mint and Caramel.

Not very much here yet, but it's a start....

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Brenda...that is great that the Yoga helps! I completely understand how trying to fit the yoga in, when you are already stretched with the farming, must be a challenge though. You'll get there! Hope you found some relief today. :-)

No fair Eden....I have yet to get through a season having everything planted as I get them. I have done better this year with what I purchased, since most of them were plugs, but I divided a bit and a number of plants I am not sure what to do with yet. Plus I still have winter sown seedlings that should have been planted by now. Half of my ghetto is heading to the local swap next weekend. Oh well, there's always next year to do better....lol. Congratulations for sticking to your resolutions! Great job training that clematis and how do you get bloom from bottom to top, like that? So pretty!

Denise...I am sorry to hear that the labrador violets have become too much for you. I just added those a couple of years ago and they do seem to reseed readily. So far, I am still liking them and I am hoping I am not going to be sorry. I wintersowed them and had 56 little seedlings and put them in three different parts of the yard. Guess I should keep my eye on them. I was considered adding stipa grass after seeing it in a D'Sabato book. So maybe I will have to rethink that one.

Woody...That close up of your wisteria...I didn't realize they were not a solid color. So pretty. How long do they bloom for? So many blooms on your peonies!

I had my first open bloom on a rose today. Maybe I will get some pics tomorrow.

Have a good evening... Hi Kathy! :-)

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Ahhhhh. Finally in my favorite chair with my lap top after 9 hours outside working. I never seem to be able to get everything done before it all needs doing again. You know what I mean? I still have to edge most of the beds and weed the violets out of the lawn. (An endless but necessary task or Id have a lawn of violets. They should be banned from nurseries as invasive plants. ) The back container area on the west property line and the shade garden by the shed all need some fresh bark mulch and I also have to feed the rhododendrons and mulch the rose garden with compost.

The good news is that I almost have everything planted!!! I can hardly believe it. Im at the stage where Im looking at things and just stuffing them in pots to get them out of the pot ghetto. Sometimes I make the best combinations when Im just slinging plants around. I still have quite a few baby coleus and fuchsias and Im contemplating just throwing them in the compost pile as they are pretty small and require a bit more care than I give things in the summer time. I got my last Rosy Dawn order in today and all but three of the coleus are planted. Doug laughed so hard I thought hed fall down when I told him it was a coleus order. (Whats with that????) I had to order some Pink Chaos for a pot in the back as the ones I ordered from Avant Gardens all died. Interesting that every coleus I ordered from Avant got some kind of dampening off and died and Ive NEVER lost a plant from Rosy Dawn. All the plants get the same care so Im thinking I wont order coleus from Avant again.

Eden, your gardens are pure magic! Is that Miss Bateman clematis blooming on your arch? Whatever it is, its gorgeous!

Bug, great list of plants. I especially love Ajuga Black Scallop in containers where it cascades over the edges. Beautiful plant.

Martie, fabulous transformation!!! Your gardens really have made great leaps in the last year. Lots of work but well worth the effort. My Goodwin Creek is outside for the summer and still a very happy camper even though I pamper it a bit more that it probably likes.

Brenda, so great to hear from you! Sorry about the back. Thats really a bother this time of the year. Mine is kicking up a bit lately but Ive been doing a lot of lifting very heavy objects that I probably shouldnt be lifting. ~~ You should do a book on "Yoga for Farmers".

Denise, thanks for the larger image. That is one lovely combination. ~~ Fantastic that you get Annas year round. You are probably south enough that they think its their winter range. My friends live in Cave Creek Canyon in AZ and they get incredible numbers of hummers there. I forget how many species but its a birding hot spot in the US.

PM2, great pic of the JM seeds and garden. So pretty! ~~ So happy you like the yellow containers. That coleus you mentioned is Lemon Meringue. I agree it is one of the best of the yellows Ive seen. ~~~ Ive got my first rose opening up this week. Ill post a pic in a couple days. ~~Yes I have birdhouses here but I dont let the House Sparrows fledge youngsters in them. I wait until theyve expended all the energy and laid eggs then remove the nest and eggs from the house. It is truly unfortunate that House Sparrows are such a problem for our cavity nesting birds here. They are only following their natures and the problem is that humans brought them here. That isnt the birds fault. But, they shouldnt be allowed nesting cavities to reproduce if we can help it. They actually kill our Chickadees, House Wrens, Tufted Titmouse etc. (cavity nesters) when they are sitting on eggs. The House Sparrows get in the nest holes then pick at the bird on the nest until they break their cervical vertebrae. Then, they clean out the houses then nest in them.

Cynthia, thanks so much, glad you like my sunshine containers. Ive got high hopes for them. The one has an Abutilon pictum, yellow form that should finally strut its stuff this year. Now if I can keep the caterpillars off the Callibrachoa this summer Ill be doing good with it. Id wanted that lovely variegated, yellow lantana for that container but I couldnt find it this year. Actually, Im having difficulties finding quite a few plants that I normally use like the orange Crossandra. Im glad I keep over as many plants as I do or Id be tearing my hair out right now.

Woody. Gorgeous tree peony. I moved mine last year and its doing better but the only branch with a flower was broken off in one of our wind storms. Love the wisteria and Im really glad I dont have bunnies here. Woodchucks are bad enough.

Denise, pot shuffling when you have work deadlines sounds like a non-LAT avoidance technique to me. (Non-legitimate avoidance technique as opposed to a PLAT Perfectly Legitimate Avoidance Technique.)

OK Im crashing and its time think about getting ready for bed. (yes I know its early but Im toast)

Nite all
Deanne


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My camera is working fine. I just haven't felt like I have all that much to share.
I did have a few lovely peonies:

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I don't think they have fully recovered from last spring's freeze. Then too much rain when they were blooming. They are about done now.

I have some clematis blooms too, but nothing to brag about. Also had a few lovely Iris, including several blooms on the ones jain sent me.

Saucy, I had to look up "hot water plant". :-)
It is Achimenes. My pot full is just now emerging. Nolon's mother gave me the start of them. She called them 'Widow's Tears'.


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Good evening

David had a few red spots a couple of days ago which spread some but didn't look significantly worse. His best friend next door also developed them and her Pedistician Mom thought they had both picked up a virus. Tonight though she had another look and both children have clssic symptoms of Chicken Pox. Interestingly, both also had the new vaccine, now mandatory though obviously not always effective.

Darn - I need to get David into his doctor in the morning and it will mean missing school when they have a week of important tests. I'm feeling frantic at work about getting everything done for the end of the year. Plus, David is having his first solo guitar recital here at the house on Saturday. He's been working towards it for months and there is no way we can reschedule as his teacher is leaving for Europe and invitations already been sent. Ack!

Feeling both bummed and stressed I think I'll try for an early night and a read in bed.

Mary

PS Last time Clousseau got a baby rabbit we were all sitting on the patio when one of the children remarked that Clouseau had found a squeaky toy. I had to remind them that we didn't own any squeaky toys. We saved the rest of the nest from a similar fate though I'm sure my garden was their main diet for generations to come.


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Thanks cynthia for the guidance on the shrub roses. Now if I could just have a hands on lesson of trimming climbers? No matter how much I read it just doesn't sink in. I need someone to show me. Perhaps Woody's Randy. To bad we live so far apart.

("It did look like 40 of Brenda's little piggies had rolled in the mud and then had a hoe down in my kitchen. Yesterday's mud caked jeans are going through the second super heavy duty wash cycle now.") I know that scenerrio.

Deanne, you have a wonderful collection of containers and plants, and the artistic eye to make great combos. I like the added bench. That wasn't there last year was it?
Congrats on the no leak pond. I know that has plagued you. I have one in the big pond that I suspect is in the falls. It will have to wait till later when things slow down to get fixed.

V, there never seems to be a dull moment in your neighborhood. The description of your DS's move in sounds just like what our best friends went through when their daughter lived near there. And then they had to go through it all again when she moved out.

Saucy , thanks for the advice re the honeysuckle. I didn't know they could be cut way back.
Nice selection of plants you got. Looking forward to seeing those after you do your thing with them.

Brenda, it's so good to have you posting again. Sorry about the back. Mine is in much better shape this year than last. Knock on wood. Hope I don't jinx myself.

Sue, it would be good to see some shots of your garden again. hint,hint.

Denise, how interesting it must have been to talk plants with the elderly man.

Eden, you have been busy. I hope we see pictures from you soon too. I am about to rip my phlox david out. They are nothing but aphid magnets in my garden. They look awful every year.

Those lillies look huge Kathy.

GB, what a wonderful gift the kids gave you and DH ! Thank you so much for sharing the trip with us. That first picture of the neighbors garden reminds me of EP's garden. All the pictures were just the things I like to see. Better than a magazine anyday.

Ah , there is a picture from Eden. And a gorgeous one too. Which Clematis is that Eden?

Hi Marian,Martie Pm and Woody also everyone else. By the time I finished reading I ran out of writing skills. I didn't accomplish much today. Had to run to town and that screws up my day. I was jumping from one thing to another and not getting anything done so I quit.

Mary, I feel for you and David. I hope he won't be terribly sick. It's been a long time since I dealt with chicken pox and can't remember how bad it is.

Night all. Norma


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I looked back at the end of May 2006 and 2007 in my pictures and I see we are definitely lagging this year in bloom time. The bearded iris, baptisia and peonies were all in bloom those years, but not this.

Denise, what a lovely combo, I have that problem trying to really capture on film what my eye sees. I have a Japanese painted fern that has such lovely coloration compared to the others I have and its sits next to heucherlla Burnished Bronze making such a lovely couple, but I just cant capture with the camera.

bug, what a neat place to get away to. I love B&Bs. I have the same memory problem LOL yesterday my mom toured my garden and she is always interested in the names of different looking plants epimedium just totally eluded me.

Its always interesting to see what shows up around my compost pile. Nothing too wonderful, but usually some watermelon and muskmelons.

Martie, things are really filling out nicely. Im enjoying your progress.

Im trying to not have a pot ghetto this year.

I picked up a large pot of ajuga black scallop last summer and was able to divide it into 7 pieces and all made the winter. I will probably use some in a container that I have an idea for. Ajuga Silver Queen is MIA.

Eden, you just cant beat the large flowering clematis for impact can you?

Woody, the rabbits are thick here this year. Rick is even talking about getting out his gun and hes not a hunter.

PM, nice shots of your garden, I see you are a rock person too ;o) I have a lot of my WS stuff to plant too. Heck I have a lot of seeds to direct sow yet. Rain is predicted by at least 40% every day this week through Friday.

Mary, sorry to hear about the chicken pox and all the other stresses.

Sleep tight!

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My word what a busy Monday we have going on here ! Lots to view and comment on. I went and visited Marties thread over yonder and viewed 'bugs weekend-away pics. What a lovely spot ! I love the hostesses pottery collection on the white hutch. And the ever-popular food photos . And Martie what progress you've made at the Park !

Eden is that Henryii? Sure wish I still had a white Clematis , but mine was done in by snails and never replaced. Your garden is looking fabu-fabu. Looking forward to seeing what your DD has going on.

PM, lol, that birch tree is over 20 years old and gets more and more cut off of it every year. It used to have two companions ( it's common to see them planted in threes) but they both croaked and were removed several years ago. More room for roses ! My new computer is actually a laptop that I can use anywhere in the house. I still have my desktop as well. This new rig is a Compaq, nothing fancy , but I got a great deal and it will be nice to have something I can take with me on trips.Hope you are feeling better. Nice photos -now that you explained your mobile camera thingy I don't have to be too awestruck about contortions you may have performed to get the correct angles .

And Martie, at least your procedure will give you some time off work with family members having to wait on you, right ? I'll bet they are far less invasive that they were in the 'olden days' ? Is it a laser thing now ?

Denise, I get the hummers all year here too. I think it's Annas we get all up and down the coast.

Brenda, I wonder if the Idylls might need a photo of little baby pigs ? Perhaps we city slickers might have an overly romantic view of what the sight of 268 baby pigs might look like.

Well, Deanne , what the hell, you only live once so you may as well have as many Coleus as you see fit -as long as Doug laughs instead of thinking about having you commited you'll be ok ! So the question is do you have more Coleus or does Brenda have more piglets ???

Marian, I love the color of that Peony ! The closest thing I have to it is my Frederic Mistral rose.

Norma, I've taught a few seminars that included how to prune a climbing rose. C'mon out and I'll give you a lesson ! It's really one of the hardest things for people to grasp when learning about rose pruning. And of course the bigger the thing gets the harder it is to figure out what goes and what stays.

Mary, my DS had chicken pox when he was a baby-that was just awful ! I hope ther are better treatment options these days.

OK, thats about it for me tonight ...a big hello to all I missed, and welcome to June !

Kathy in Napa


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Good morning

Definitely seconding the request for a baby pig photo Brenda! David is particularly enamoured with pigs (his room is decorated with pigs of various types) and for years wouldn't eat bacon. He was young enough and we were vague enough for him not to know the origins of the other white meat. Our compromise now is humanely raised pork and nitrate free bacon.

Yesterday was a day for ironies, first David getting chicken pox after vaccinating him to prevent it. The second was to do with game systems. Annie and David are some of the very few children in our neighborhood who have no Playstation, Wii or Gameboys in their home. In fact, David does not know any other boys who don't own at least one of the above. For girls it seems less of an issue. However, thay are welcome to play with them at friend's houses and David seems quite happy with the situation. (He tells me now he would have become too addicted if he had his own at home.) I've always felt that childhood is better spent in imginative play, reading, with music, pets, outside or making up their own entertainment.

However, last night DH called after a charity golf tournament he played in for work. He had enterted a fund raising raffle and won......A Sony Playstation3. It's being shipped here this week. A colleague had offered him $200 cash but it is worth at least double. I'll have to ponder that one.

One last bit of news from me though I feel bad about writing "all about me" posts instead of commenting. It's something I'm really excited about but hate to sound boastful - I haven't told anyone here except family for just that reason but thought my Idyll friends would understand. David has been awarded a named scholarship at the Eastman Music School here in Rochester to study in their community music program next year. He loves music so much, works hard and I am thrilled he'll have this opportunity. Unfortunately he won't be able to go to the awards ceremony as it is on Saturday and he will either be spotty, or playing in his guitar recital, or both.

Speaking of which, I need to get ready for our Dr's visit. Have a great day everyone.
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Good morning... :-)

Mary....I'm not sure how old David is, but that is really scary that the vaccine didn't do any good. He had the vaccine when he was small? When I was growing up, I seem to remember we had all the usual kid's diseases. I don't know when they started with vaccinations. My daughter developed chicken pox, despite being vaccinated as a child, while we were on vacation visiting my Mom in Florida. We were scheduled to be there for a week, and she developed them two days before we were ready to fly home. Not allowed to get on the plane, so DH had to fly home with our son and I had to stay another week with daughter. Which actually ended up being a wonderful visit with my Mom. Of course, my DH and son I am sure didn't experience that week at home quite the same way. [g] It never fails that everything happens at once! So sorry Mary!!

Marian...your Peony is such a nice soft pink and so full! Ours haven't opened yet and I am expecting that as soon as they do, it will pour! I have only one clematis and it is also nothing to brag about. Maybe 10 blooms on it and that is it. I really need to move it.

Michelle...I'm jealous of your 'Black Scallop' ajuga making it through the winter. I am not having any luck getting ajuga to grow here. I tried Black Scallop this spring and it has already disappeared for some reason. I tried Chocolate Chip two years ago and that never made it over the winter. I find that perplexing since I am zone 6. I am putting it in a shady location, which I thought they tolerated. I bought a plug of 'Burgundy Glow' this spring and so far that hasn't disappeared yet. [g]

Yes, I am a rock person too. I love rocks. Rock gardens, rock walls, stone pavers, stone water features. lol Well, I am glad I am not the only one who hasn't got their winter sown seedlings in...and I keep procrastinating starting Basil and a few other seeds that I usually start sooner than this. It's either this week, or not at all, I think.

Deanne....I gave up on the violets in the lawn a long time ago. [g] I actually decided that if you can't lick'em, join'em. The violet presiding over the entire property when we moved in was shapeless, too large, with an indistinct white flower. Nothing endearing about it. So I keep digging it out of the beds, but I left it in the lawn and have started adding other violets that I enjoy more. The labradorica with bronze, small, heart shaped foliage and an odorata that at least has a very pretty dark purple flower and is VERY fragrant. My hope is that the two I like will compete with the ugly white and eventually take over.

Thanks for the primer on House Sparrows. I am going to take a photo if I can to make sure I am identifying it correctly. I thought the hole was too small for them, but I guess not.

Hi Norma....I have lots of days like that, getting nothing done. [g] Hope today is better. :-)

Kathy....whatever you cut off that Birch tree, you did a great job, because it looked wonderful to me and I was wishing I had one. [g] I love the way you were able to plant so close to it, too. I used to have a laptop and a desktop and found I never used the desktop once we went wireless. I am sure you will love yours! Oh...and the photo of the JM seed pods, was taken from the second floor window. :-)

How did I miss that Brenda had 268 piglettes?! I saw mention of a pig, but not a number as large as 268...lol. I would love to see photos of that!

Have a great Tuesday! :-)


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How exciting for David, Mary! Congratulations to him on the scholarship!

I am hopeful that because he has had the vaccine, that he will have a very mild case of the Chicken Pox and still be able to perform on Saturday! Fingers and toes are crossed here :)

I have one vaccinated child and one who had Chicken Pox.

Not much to say this morning. Might be taking a trip to the dr. myself this morning - Nick is pretty ill with abdominal pain which they Mayo Clinic website describes as gall stones or pancreatitis (sometimes they're related). Let's hope that Dr. Saucy is wrong and it's just gas :) He looks pretty miserable though, for someone who has a high pain threshold.

TTYL!
Saucy


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Yip, yip, yip....started at 4:30 this morning and lasted til I got up at 5:10. Anybody want to adopt a miniature schnauzer? lol In his defense, I did get up to a monstrous pile of poop on the kitchen floor but this is the first time for that so...

Just a comment on the hysterectomy subject. As some of you know I was told in Nov 2006 by my long time GYN that I should have one due to fibroids. Fibroids that were relatively non symptomatic at the time. After doing alot of on line research and joining a couple of yahoo groups I discovered that there are many other options to treat fibroids other than a hyst which BTW is one of the most overperformed and unnecessary surgeries in the US. Unfortunately most GYNs for whatever reason don't offer the other options or even take the time to educate themselves on them. Mine didn't tell me about any other options and dismissed the surgery I had, a myomectomy, as "it's major surgery and they just grow back anyway". Wrong! What they don't tell you about are the potential long term, irreversible side effects of a hyst. Hopefully anybody who has decided to go this route has independently done that research. None of them were risks I was willing to accept. I feel very fortunate that I found a surgeon and a procedure that removed my fibroids and left the rest of me intact. I could go on all day about this subject. Martie, I hope it all goes well for you. If for some reason you'd like a second, third or fourth opinion, contact me off list and I'll give you the name of my doctor.

All righty then...have a great day!

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Good morning...
The pics of the peonies is of two differant plants. I am pretty sure the second one is Sarah Bernhardt. I can't find the name of the first one. I sent for it, and bought the second one from WalMart.

We had a brisk wind all night. It plays hob with my fibro. :-(


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Saucy, did Nick start having problems after a heavy meal, or a fatty meal? Otherwise, my Primary Care Doc mentioned there was a pretty nasty stomach bug going around 3 weeks ago when I was there. I've had my share of gallbladder attacks and almost all of them ended up at the ER. Hope Nick finds some relief soon.

Sue, thanks for that info. I have a family member with fibroids that haven't been symptomatic for awhile, so good to know that some reseach will yield more options, for future reference.

Hope the sun comes out and you can get in the yard today Marian. :-)


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Yes, PM, it began after he took me out for lunch...I had a salad, he had a cup of sausage soup, a lobster roll, and sweet potatoe fries on the side :)

He should have went to the ER, he kept me up all night :)

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It really would be better for him to go to the ER while he is having an episode. You can get a quick ultrasound to see if that is the issue. Gallstones will usually show up. They can also take blood tests that will show elevations that are a pretty cut and dry diagnosis, but if he waits at home with it too long and then goes, sometimes the elevated enzymes have already gone back to normal and then it is not so clear. Sounds like the type of meal that would trigger an episode.


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Big congrats to David, Mary, on getting into the Eastman. I'm thinking like Saucy, that the chickenpox might deal a glancing blow since it's associated with the vaccine, but I wonder how long he'll be considered infectious.

Michelle, you're right, plant photography is hard! It occurs to me that arctotis is always closed before the sun is out, when I usually take photos. I've been trying to get a decent photo of the Agastache 'Black Adder' in bloom, and it's just impossible to convey. The Eveline salvia is here too, not blooming yet tho.

PM, the horizontal buds you asked about were lilies and the pink flwrs are from Salvia involucrata 'Mulberry Jam." Silvery clump is ballota. Your verbascum are gorgeous! Self-seeders vary tremendously from zone to zone, of course, so things like stipa may not be a problem for you.

Nick's appendix is obviously out of the picture. Sorry he kept you up, Saucy! ;)

The Antique Rose Forum may have a FAQ on pruning climbers. They've got some amazing contributors over there. I may have printed off something from the ARF a while back and will hunt for it.

I'm wondering how long Deanne has been "birding." Along with what I else I didn't know was that only the Annas make that distinctive sound, kind of like tsk, tsk, tsking, like when you chastise someone, tongue behind the teeth. The salvias, agastache, phygelius, nicotiana are all in bloom, and the little guys are here nonstop.

Nice to get a new laptop, isn't it, Kathy? I'm a little apprehensive over using Vista due to issues with the software I use for work. I've got so many older model laptops littering the office. They wear out on me pretty fast for work use, not much beyond 2 yrs. Desktop is great for the home office for proofing/editing because of the GIANT screen for tired eyes...

Woody, the trees peonies are FF to the max. I thought these were very difficult to grow, but so many idyllers seem to have them. The chain swags will be smashing, and when covered in roses you won't notice the minor asymmetry.

Sorry you're feeling poorly, Marian. Cut those peonies and bring them in to enjoy!

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Thinking of Mary's David in all ways today..... Hooray and "poor kid" all at the same time :-)

The following is somewhat medically graphic and personal, but I'm providing the facts with the hope that it'll help others who face the same monthly torment:

It's taken me 3 years, three doctors (including an OD whom I adore and who agrees that at this point, this is my best decision), a hydrothermal ablation and two D&C's to make my recent medical decision. The straw is the fact that for the last seven months I've NEEDED to take at least two totally unpredictable days at home each month. Not a great way to live, and no obvious end in sight. At this point, the pain and energy it takes to be me for anywhere between 7 and 10 days total per month isn't worth it. I have five fibroids, three of them more than 3cm and more often than not, I look and feel like i'm five months pregnant. A myomectomy was considered even before the ablation, but the life source of my fibroids are funky and docs could only give me a 30% chance of any success. Not good enough odds for me.

A hysterectomy is 100% effective for my symptoms. I've done tons of research on after effects and procedures and truly believe that my quality of life deserves to be much better than it is. That and, because of the location and type of my fibroids, the chances of them shriking post-menopause is quite slim. This would leave me more prone to post-menopausal bleeding and pain.

So, at this point, much more to gain than to lose.

All that said, everyone is different. There is No Way I would've made this decision without talking to at least two doctors in different practices, and an interventional radiologist (who just shook his head when he saw the MRI). This is not a light decision, believe me, and I so appreciate you bringing it up, Sue, because what's good for me may be awful for someone else.

Later!

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Afternoon all,

Well we are having yet another lovely day here, partly cloudy, low 80s, light breeze. Couldnt be better. I think we are supposed to get some rain tomorrow. I surely hope so. WE could actually use several days of rain to get things nicely soaked. Ive gotten the rose garden all spruced up with a fresh mulch of our leaf compost and the roses are going to pop in the next couple days. The Miss All-American Beauty had about fifteen lovely, long-stemmed buds ready to open and should put on quite a nice show.

Have any of you seen that new Pennisetum Fireworks? I found it over the weekend at a local place and its a gorgeous variegated grass. I just love the cream, pink and purple variegation in it.

Mary, bummer about Davids Chicken Pox! I hope the vaccine shortens the duration. ~~ A HUGE congratulations to David on his scholarship. You must be so proud of him!

Norma, so happy you like the pots! The bench was actually there but I used it to put plants on so you couldnt see it. Id like to have Doug fix it so it can be used. ~~ Bummer about the leak in your waterfall. Those can be a bear to figure out. My sister had a lovely huge pond installed and even after paying primo for the experts, the thing still gets leaks.

Michelle, I recently was looking at my last year photos and like you things here are about a week behind last year. ~~ Great that you saved all your Ajuga Black Scallop. How did you winter it over? Did you do anything special? That is probably my favorite Ajuga and I have a hard time finding it in the spring and have had difficulties keeping it over the winter.

Kathy, you are way too funny, of course I have more coleus! ROTFLOL

PM I wish I could get your attitude about the violets. But I persist like a nu-nu trying to achieve the impossible.

Saucy, that sounds like a recipe for a gallbladder attack to me.

Denise, Ive been birding for about twenty-five years or so. Im not as over the top as some as I have too many other interests that take up my time. Thats wonderful that you have so many Annas there. We only get one species of Hummingbird here east of the Appalachians and that is the Ruby-throated. One of these years Id love to go birding in Costa Rica as they have many, wonderful species of hummers there.

OK here are some shots from this morning showing whats busting out all over here.

The Baptisia is divine this year

This is growing out at the base of my rock wall in the terraces. I love the way these plants just pop up all over the place.

I thought youd like to see some pics from the driveway garden as Ive not posted any recently.

You can see my new Cotinus on the upper left. I really love how it looks with the chartreuse heather.

Im enjoying this Iris Immortality with the Hosta Patriot combimation.

And a long view of the garden

OK Im off to a nursery to hunt up some asparagus fern. It was everywhere last year and this year I cant find it. Go figure?
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I just adore all the wonderful photos Im seeing -- Im hopelessly lost re commenting I think - I can't see Eden's clem pics (or Woody's pics) but will hope I may see them tonite when I try to check in --

I also enjoy reading of all the new plants and cultivars/selections that people are finding at their nurseries -- Eden, your list mentioned I bunch I have not heard of -- Deanne, I did see that gorgeous pennisetum at the nursery I visited w/ Cynthia recently -- it was lovely. I also saw them pair asparagus fern w/ an aeonium Shwartzkopf nestled amidst the center of the huge fern - this froth w/ black in its center - just 2 simple plants and it was a dynamic combo - it made me want to give those 2 a try (I guess that loses distinction of a mono pot then, right, LOL?)

Been laid low by a bad combo of cold germ plus bad allergies equals fluid in the ear equals vertigo -- a terrible problem for me when it gets out of whack (as though I needed anything to make me seem dizzier or ditzier!) -- had to get a prescrip from the dr last weekend to get upright again -- I guess I need to count myself lucky it's been about 4 years since I had a severe episode.

Mary - that is so amazing about David -- the Eastman that is (not the chicken pox - geez, bummer re the vaccine; it makes you wonder if it means he could get shingles as adult then I guess?)....

I cannot speak to the plant ghetto this year -- not something I want to confess about -- it's shall we say, out of control right now?

I am going to take the rest of lunch here and review all these glorious photos -- Deanne, it always amazes me that you can combine full sun (bearded iris) with shade things (i.e., Patriot hosta) - in my area I think the combo would fry or rot depending on where I put them!

Re ajuga black scallop - I have been lucky to have it overwinter in both pots and the borders -- in fact, it jumped into the grass nearby -- it's also the only ajuga that seems to not get "crown rot" that comes w/ the terrible humidity - altho, since it's only the 2nd year, I guess it remains to be seen if that happens or not.

I hope those under the weather - Saucy's Nick and aching backs (Brenda, et al) get back in tiptop soonest!

I know I missed a lot of other folks -- try as I might - waving at all in a drive by!!

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so I had a thought -- for those who have increased their planting efficiency this year and lowered their plant ghetto ratios (like Eden and Deanne)... does this equate to more free time to go nursery crawling to try to fill that empty space where the ghetto used to be back up?? I wait to see what other exciting things ya'll bring home or what you plant to do with that new free time - more SALATing perhaps.....


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Martie, I'm not here to question your decision because the bottom line is it's a decision only you can make. You've done the research to your satisfaction and are comfortable with your decision. That's all that matters. The reason I'm even posting this publicly is to hopefully spread information and maybe encourage somebody else who may be in this situation to also do the research (independently) and question the doctors. It appears to me that too many women don't. What was good for their mothers, grandmothers, aunts, etc. must be good for them. Plus the doctor that they've been going to for 30 years and who delivered their children says it's the right thing as well.

There are woefully few GYNs who are well versed in fibroid treatment and even fewer who have the surgical skills necessary to perform a myo. In the Hartford area, there are only a handful at best and some of them are fertility specialists who are biased against women over 40. If it was a men's disease, trust me, removing all the parts wouldn't even be an option. Can you imagine? "I'm sorry, Mr Smith, but you have a few benign growths on your you know what. Obviously they are causing you alot of pain and bleeding and even though we could remove or shrink them we think it would be better to just cut everything off." Yeah, right.

I had six fibroids, the largest being 16 cm and the next largest being in the 8 or 9 range. I was also not a candidate for UFE. My long time GYN who I trusted told me my only option was a hyst with an invasive vertical incision and I didn't even have any real symptoms at the time. She suggested a second opinion and offered to make the referral to someone she knew. No mention of UFE at all and all the usual scare tactics like it may be cancer and my kidneys could shut down. I was always one who just did what a doctor said but this just didn't sit right with me. After doing the research and monitoring the yahoo group for a few months I shocked at how much misinformation and bad advice is being spread by GYNs on fibroid treatment. The bottom line is it's very common for them to grow rapidly and cause symptoms in women over 45. In the hands of a skilled surgeon, a myo on just about any size uterus is routine. Mine was even done with a bikini cut incision. The hardest part is finding the surgeon. I found mine through the interventional radiologist I went to for the UFE consult. The yahoo group is also an invaluable resource for this purpose.

Anyway, I apologize if I've offended anyone by bringing this up. Obviously I feel very strongly about the topic.

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Sue, you didn't offend me in any way. I also used to just automatically trust whatever a doctor said and didn't give it a thought, but a few bad experiences started me asking a lot of questions and doing my own research early on. I made a major shift toward alternative treatments and now I weigh both traditional and alternative treatments before I make any health decision. There seems to always be more to know then what you initially hear from your doctor, you just have to be willing to search it out.

I admire your persistence and patience in searching for something that you were satisfied with and it sounds like it paid off for you.

At the same time, Martie, I absolutely hear what you are saying too. You have also done your homework and your situation may not be as straight forward as someone else's. Sometimes something radical has to be done. All you can do is make the best decision you can. :-)

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Thanks Sue. I agree with the the strong emphasis on research. I am certainly aware of this with my grandson's heart surgeries.
I have a horrible doctor...and really need to get a move on with my various old lady ailments somehow. I should be doing research instead of increasing the plant ghetto!
One thing that particularly annoys me is a doctor who prescribes a medicine saying "It has been used for years!" When asked how many years that might be, they say 2, or 4 years! Not long enough to have an idea about side effects.
Another issue for us had to do with DD's birth situation. That is an entirely weird world! The US has the second highest infant mortality rate in the world, second only to Latvia! With very young mothers, you can imagine not much research gets done...OK, off my soapbox.

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My quick calculation is that I am now nearly 3 full Idylls behind, not to mention the myriad of picture essays. This is worse that returning to school after a week of the 'flu. My apologies to those who worried at my absence. I've long thought that my "friendship skills" are lacking (or maybe I have some sort of "syndrome"?) because I don't waste much thought to how my absence may be viewed, even though I worry about "alltharestayous". :(

Anyway, I'm OK but seem to have a private black cloud that is never too far from my head. And this is the busiest time of year at the shop. I've pretty much put my head down and pulled into the yoke of employment or dealt with things that have needed attention on the compound.

I'm concerned about Rex's recovery. He seems to be favoring the affected leg more than he did the first one at the same juncture. I'm not sure exactly what to do... perhaps we've been less diligent in PT or too lax in our supervision of his activity (stairs figure prominently in our lifestyle and so is a "ride" in the car; I helped him in and made him "down", not sure about the helpmeet, though).

I'm working on prepping the pieces for the new windowboxes, have sorted through more of Mum's belongings (very sad business indeed), have enjoyed visits with family members that have been great fun but edged with a poignancy I hope you manage to dodge, and have had some very long, hard private "cries". Two good things to note: crying does really make you feel better and the concern of friends is truly one of life's greatest gifts.

Now, more about me. :/ I'm sorry I missed the last get-together; I'm certain you had a good deal of fun and it will be interesting to read of the treasure you found. It has become clear to me that I am clearly "on the stick" with respect to hosting some sort of gathering... . It's not that I'm freaked out about the way we live, not at all (let's face it, we have 2 TVs with "rabbit ears" on top of them!). Again, I just don't really think that what goes on here would be of greater interest than polite, passing conversation.

My house is waiting for the next round of fair weather so the bleaching oil may be applied. The gutters are off (the estimate for the new ones appalled me but they need to be replaced) and the painting of the trimwork will dictate when they're to be installed.

I have yet to stake the peonies (as ususal) and am now keenly aware of the encroachment of shade... 17 yrs. is long time and some full sun plants are in dire need of a new location. But all of that is dependent upon the installation of the shrub border, which means more work, more time, which means more grousing from the overwrought helpmeet and well... you understand. ;)

But it's all OK.

My fondest thoughts for all you dear people. It will be fun (but WORK) to read your replies, thoughts, innovations, etc.. In my spare time (snort)... . Having little to go on, I hope you're all well, in good humor (esp. you, Marian) and I'll be able to "catch up" in good time.


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RE: In case you wondered...

Never, EVER allow yourself to believe that any one doctor has all the answers. As one who had to be the voice and advocate for a woman who was no longer capable... let me tell you, research is KEY. And any doctor who "didn't like" my questions was viewed with skepticism and suspicion.

Knowledge is power.
Question "authority".


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Brenda - add me to the list of those who would like to see piggie pictures.... Do you have any special odor abatement set-up? The working farm at Macdonald College of McGill University (the Agriculture Faculty when I did my undergraduate degree) apparently now has some fancy dome thing for the pig operations that is aimed at odor reduction. There have been references to it in the alumni magazine but not details and I'm curious what the current practises are. Taryn doesn't post here any more but I've been wondering how those modified pig barns at the property she bought are holding up in terms of absence - or not - of lingering odors...:-)

Mary - David definitely sounds like he's been having one of those good day/bad day experiences! I'm not familiar with the scholarship thing - what exactly does it mean to him in terms of music activities etc.?

Saucy - It definitely sounds like Nick needed to have that pain checked out - and to stop eating such high fat meals!

Sue and Martie - it sounds like you both did your research and questioned your doctors. That's something I find absolutely necessary before I can be comfortable making decisions. Doctors, however, are often less-than-pleased to deal with patients who expect to be given something more than 'because I say so' type answers. Tough!

Deanne - the driveway garden is looking very lush - as usual. My Immortality iris clump is blooming now too. Are those columbines dwarf ones? My columbines are just starting to bloom here now. They have scattered themselves all over the garden, particularly in the back. I love the range of colors but should do more editing of them than I do!

re tree peonies - until a couple of years ago when I planted the two I have, I thought they'd be hard to grow too. The one in the picture I posted above is four years old. It's planted in pretty much unammended clay soil. I didn't get it in deeply enough. It was a grafted plant - as evidenced by the fact that I had a lovely single pink herbaceous peony that came up and bloomed beautifully for two years! I don't see the single one this year so maybe that means the tree peony is now strong enough to out-compete it. I quite liked the herbaceous one and wouldn't have been too upset if it had survived and the tree peony not! The other tree peony I have is a year older, about the same color (I have no idea what their names are...) and blooms a bit later - it just opened blooms today. It got the same less-than-ideal planting in spring in lousy soil but is doing fine too. So, from my experience, I'd say they are way tougher and easier to grow than you might think and would certainly recommend giving growing them a shot!

On the subject of climbing rose pruning - Randy and I are just learning now. I did a bunch of research and think I've got it straight what to do. Time will tell... The New Dawn roses on the south gate arbour have been badly neglected and let grow wild. They are at the point where they are making unprovoked attacks on anyone passing through the gate! I have been thinking about the swag idea for a couple of years now. My plans got set back a bit in fall 2006 when we built the new shed. In the interests of contractor saftey, Randy cut off a lot of the canes I was planning on swagging.... But things have now regrown to the point where it needs doing NOW. Here's what the mess at the top of the arbour looks like from the pantry window, which has a clear view of it:
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If you look closely, you can see that the Clematis montana is also blooming up there this year. I'm hoping to train some of it along the swag too and control both the rose and the clematis together.

Re the wisteria - I'm not sure how long it will bloom. This is only the second time it has done a spring bloom - 2006 was the first time; it didn't bloom last year in spring. In 2006 it bloomed about a week earlier than this year, but this spring has been very cold and everything is late. It's a Chinese wisteria. While the spring bloom happens before - or just as - the leaves develop,it also puts out a nice second flush of bloom in July. Last summer I planted a Japanese wisteria at the other end of the lawn. They are later to bloom, blooming after the leaves have fully developed and are less inclined to do a second bloom later in the summer. It will be a couple of years, no doubt, before it blooms for the first time. Last summer I also planted two Henryi clematis with the Chinese wisteria and they are doing well this spring.

My hopes are that, in a few years, I'll have Chinese wisteria bloom, followed by the Japanese wisteria, followed by, or concurrent with, the Henryi clematis on the Chinese wisteria, followed by the second bloom flush of the Chinese wisteria and maybe some late flowers from the clematis.... A lot of people tell me that the wisteria will out-compete the clematis and that the two won't work together - but I have to find out for myself! Nothing ventured, nothing gained... If it works, it should be great; if it doesn't, the experiment didn't cost a lot in either $, time or effort...

Here is what the wisteria 'tree/bush' looks like today:
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Stepping back and putting it in the context of the front garden, you can see that it is still a young plant and has a long way to go to fill in and provide a nice, dense show of bloom. But it's a start...
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Hi Chelone - good to 'see' you. We were posting at the same time. I type sloooow... It sounds like you've been busy and have lots and lots of issues on your plate. Poor Rex - give him a pat from me and tell him to take it easy!


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OK, here's a fibroid story to beat them all...Sure surprised the doctor!

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Hey, look who has showed their face! :-) :-) Hi Chelone! Nice2cya!
Three whole Idylls.....well, that is a lot to catch up with. I guess we'll have to go easy on you and give you a 'Get Out of Jail Free' card. [g]

Poor Rex...does he have more PT still to go? I wouldn't be so quick to take the blame for the second surgery having a different recovery. I am sure there is more to it than that.

Gee, I hope this means that you can go back to being the first one to post in the morning. [g]

Glad you are doing ok...

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That was quite the story GB!

I've had to go against popular medical opinion and it's not easy...sounds like everyone here questions and researches.

Nick most likely has a gall stone/stones. He's on a bland low fat diet while we wait results. Looks like we have our own decisions to make....

I potted up some more plants tonight as I don't want to be the only Idyller with a pot ghetto (kidding). I linked one of the new plants I got from Mapel...it's in a pot with lots of grey green leaves and purple flowers. We'll see :)

So much to do in the garden and the office needs my attention. Seems the husband needs a little attention, too. Hope I can juggle happily :)

Saucy

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Tuesday evening is take-the-trash-out evening for me. So along with the trash toters I took out my crappy attitude after two less than satisfactory days at the office. Sheesh.

Chelone, so very glad you came to see us ! We missed you .Tidbits from Chelone are always worth noting. As for the black cloud- I dont think there are any of us here who dont respect a fellow Idyllers need to get under it, wallow a bit, and let it unleash a downpour if need be. Sorry to hear that Rex is having some recovery issues.

Woody, I have a neighbor that has standardized a Wisteria going on 15 years now. As you can imagine, there is a great deal of pruning that goes on. They are the 3rd owner of that house since Ive been here, and owner number two was able to do something that caused a mild re-bloom. As for Tree Peonies, this is a one week bloomer here and if it rains forget it. This year we had a freak heat wave as I recall and I was lucky to get 5 days.

Wow Deanne, it seems like just yesterday you were worrying about frost and look how great your driveway garden looks ! Patriot is one of my very favorite Hostas-I had one for a brief time and it languished , eventually vanishing . Hostas do much better in zone 8 so I hope to acquire another one day.

Denise , this is the latest research from UC on H-bird Annas song- I remember reading this a few months back and almost posted it then, but the topic seems timely.

Gnite eveyone. Ive used up my brains battery pack for tonight

Kathy in Napa

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A quick good morning to you. I'm noting the heavy overcast and am hoping for a thorough drenching today, though the fact that I remembered to close the north and south windows of the Salon likely means we'll get nowhere near the 3" we need. It's dry as a bone here and poor Deanne must be out of her mind if dauntless Doug hasn't helped her come up with a drip irrigation system.

Speaking of the Salon, I have the window box parts all set up in there. Zinsser sealing shellac smells repulsive (used in a closet I suspect it could transport me to another place effectively), so I installed the screens and opened all the windows for good ventilation. It's just like bein' in a tree house, you guys! Absolutely wonderful, the windows begin about 18" from the floor and the air circulation is great. Not much work to report on getting it closer to a more polished state, but it's great for painting, so that's progress, I guess.

Lastest round of family arrived yesterday afternoon and they are just the nicest people. Their 21 yr. old daughter is with them and I'm delighted to report there IS hope for the future of the world.

Congrats to Mary on the myriad talents of her David, and to David himslf! I had the vaccination, too, never contracted ANY of the "childhood diseases" in spite of being sent "to visit" whenever one of the neighborhood was so stricken. Gotta rustle up some grub and get out the door. Be productive, kids.

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A Super job Chelone!

Now I'm going back to bed to rest up for a busy day!


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We have an Idyll Birthday today!!!


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Now that's what I like to see! Someone up before I am, making cheerful chit chat. :-)

Perfect, Chelone!

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Rain! The slow and steady kind that doesn't run off and greens everything up but unfortunately strips the Rugosas of petals. The myriad buds ensure bloom for the next few weeks, so let it rain!

I think when making any medical decision, aside from research, a key point is how it affects your life. Never for one second did I think that anyone was questioning my decision. The key difference with Sue's and my situation is that she is/was asymptomatic and I'm definitely affected by this now unnecessary organ. It's been this way for the last seven years and I've had enough. Clinically this could've been done years ago and I chose to wait it out. Where my fibroids are located negated much myomectomy success, ditto a UFE, and the hypothermal ablation which works 90% of the time, didn't work at all for me. D&C's were the least invasive treatment and though it's good for a few weeks, "back to square one" has happened twice. So, I'm done with having my uterus dictate what amounts to my entire life and standard of living.

ie., couldn't have made the drive to Tower Hill last weekend no matter what. Too far. Heck, there are days when the grocery store is too far.

In my feeling, this doesn't make me a wimp or a puppet for docs, it does make me resolute to feel better and have a quality of life that doesn't involve weeks of feeling just lousy and then having to be homebound for fear of not being near a bathroom every hour or so. No amount of protection helps at this point, so I made my choice.

Choice is what it's all about, yes ladies?? LOL... Do I like the idea of being poked and essentially delivering a small melon while under anesthesia? No. But I like the idea of being a recluse in narcotic-needing pain even less.

Saucy -- I'm hopeful Nick feels better soon. Having just gone through emergency gall bladder stuff with Rich suffice to say that it can get dangerous fast if it's not treated well. How are the bees?

Good to see you Chelone. I think that same black cloud is hovering here, too. Sounds like the Salon is taking shape.

What a story, 'bug! Surprise!!!

Loving all the pics and anecdotes and wishing everyone a great day.

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What a great time of year for a birthday!!!


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Hi everyone,
I forced myself to take and download some photos LOL


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Happy Birthday Sue!
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Hope you find some time to sit and enjoy your day!


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I love those chairs Saucy! Where did you get them?


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Happy Birthday, Sue!

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LOL, Woody, they're from the wonderful garden we visited toward the end of the PA Idyllunion. She had several seating vignettes.

I would like something like that myself....but with a turtle theme :)

Saucy

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Many happy returns of the day, Sue!
(Hermannshof, Germany -- Woody's given me wisteria on the brain...)
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Raining here...not much yet. I knew it would rain because the peony blossom is finally opening. [g] Not quite open, so maybe it will survive. I also see that a few newly opened iris are horizontal to the ground. I am new to iris, are they usually not weather resilient?

Chelone...it is very dry here too. I've had the sprinkler going twice this year already and quite a bit of spot hand watering with all the moving about we did this spring. It is raining pretty steadily here right now. I love the sound of all your large windows in the Salon. Great air circulation in a building is such a pleasure. Love tree houses, too.

Saucy, I just wanted to share with you, that if this is Nick's first problem with gallbladder and things are not serious at this point, depending on what the tests show, you could find a good alternative doctor, maybe a Naturopath, sometimes they can help you with supplements and diet to prevent future problems, without surgery. Sometimes your Primary doctor will agree with this conservative approach.

Mary....How is David doing? Hoping his outbreak of chicken pox are mild and that he will not be contagious by Saturday. You all must be floating on cloud nine over his scholarship. Great when your kids have a chance to do what they are good at and what they enjoy.

Denise...a Lily, huh? Would enjoy seeing that when it opens. I so envy you all the western Salvias and agastaches, and the hummers they attract. That 'Mulberry Jam' is more delicate than I would expect for a salvia.

Deanne...what is a nu nu? [g] Love that third photo you posted of the driveway garden. Your grasses are really coming into their own, and that huge bird bath fits right in.

Cindy...hope you are feeling better. Allergies alone are bad enough, but a cold and vertigo together? Hope you are being extra nice to yourself. :-)

Woody...I think that is a lot of bloom for a Wisteria, for such a young plant. Should be an interesting experiment. A clematis would certainly give it another season of bloom.

Gardenbug...is it raining there today?

Kathy...what are they doing to you at work? [g] A crappy attitude seems quite uncharacteristic for you. How is the realtor activity doing on the house?

Patriot vanished on me too. Fascinating article on the Hummingbird. Such a straight arch of a flight pattern, they are amazing!

Anita....busy at your house?

Sue...Happy Birthday!! Hope you had a 'yip, yip' free morning. [g]

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Happy Birthday Sue!

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PM, believe it or not but it actually was a yip free morning. May they continue. lol

Thanks so much for the birthday greetings everyone! So many gorgeous pictures from near and far! A few of the activities on the agenda today include xrays and physical therapy. Good grief! What a way to celebrate being one year older. Wonder what medical delights I have to look forward to next year. Beats the alternative I guess. Thank goodness for great friends who are traveling some distances tonight to take me out to dinner.

I received the funniest e-card from my dad and his wife. Below is a link to the generic version. Hope it works. We've been chuckling away here all morning.

A few more comments on the fibroid issue because I realize that there are possibly hundreds more people who read here than post and there is more than enough misinformation floating around about this subject. By no means were my fibroids non symptomatic. If they were I would have done nothing. By the time I scheduled my surgery they were quite symptomatic. Fibroids cause a wide variety of symptoms, some worse than others, but the type and severity of the symptoms by no means dictates the course of treatment that may be taken. What does dictate the options are the size, nature and location of the fibroids. Once again, research and finding the right doctors are the keys. Just about every day on the yahoo group a new member posts who has been advised by a doctor to follow a fibroid treatment option that is not effective for the type of fibroids they have. It's appallingly common.

Martie, when you refer to your uterus as a "useless organ", I sincerely hope that you've drawn this conclusion after doing some independent research. Unfortunately many doctors flip that comment out there quite casually-usually when they're telling someone a hyst is their only option. Personally, if I doctor ever said anything like that to me (and my original GYN did) I would run, not walk to the nearest exit. Based on the research I've seen I feel quite the opposite.

Allrighty then. Some rain here today but not nearly enough. The weather forecast I saw this morning said 90 F for the weekend. Yuck. Is it lunchtime yet?

Sue

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Happy Birthday Sue! Have a perfect day!
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LOL! Sue, that card was hilarious (and so true...not for me, of course, but...[g]) Great way to start the day.


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Happy Birthday, Sue. I hope it is a good one. :-)

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I may have overdone it this forenoon. I got onto a pruning mode, and just kept lopping off wayward limbs, after removing grapevines, mimosa, and pokeberry from the island shrub row. It is amazing what all the birds 'plant' in the shrub rows! I still have piles of loppings to haul to the burning piles. :-)


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O my gosh -- that card is a riot!!

I am glad to hear that your furry children gave you a very personal birthday present - a quiet morning.

Sue, I recently went to the dentist on mine and was rewarded w/ the news that I needed my first crown on a tooth -- I decided I've moved to a whole new plateau - not only w/ the tooth biz but the idea that I could make myself do unpleasant, "routine" stuff on "the day" LOL - it didn't hurt so much after all -- but I am glad to hear you're getting some good food and company to finish the day off more pleasantly. Boy, Im going to have to remember that card for a few "friends" haha.

As a survivor of the big H surgery, I will say that I do feel so much much better once it was over and done with (I really did think about a year later that I wondered why I waited so long)-- there are certainly ramifications from its removal - but I had a lot of problems going on there, and not just fibroids -- but this was about 8 years ago and I frankly am amazed at the info that one can find now on the 'net -- it has certainly changed info gathering on important topics re health, life (and of course gardening). But like Chelone, I saw with my mother's condition after her stroke that it takes a lot of persistence, nagging, research, and finding the right medical person to listen to go against the "norm" of what is established treatments/protocols for conditions.

I do think your comment was important, Sue, that if a doctor says something that sounds flip or "godlike" (i.e., dont question my judgment because I have an M.D.), then one should run the other way and it's important to find one with whom you can feel is open to options or new ideas or treatments or at the least the discussion of them -- even specialists have a hard time keeping up with progress and new treatments in their fields. Nothing wrong with gathering all the intel on things and asking lots and lots of questions.

Will it make you New Englanders feel deprived if I tell you that I heard the DC metro area got over 10 inches of rain in May - an alltime record.... we had more rain yesterday... but the 90 degree temps have arrived now. Ugh.

All these pics of wisteria -- ahhhhh...... if only there were room somewhere....

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Oh my gosh Cindy did we miss your birthday? Happy, happy belated my Idyll friend!

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Happy Birthday, Sue!!

I'm sorry I misinterpreted your situation. The line in your post "Fibroids that were relatively non symptomatic at the time" led me to believe that they weren't seriously interferring with your well-being. My apologies, and thank you for taking a different view so that more women can be educated.

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Running to catch the birthday train...

Happy birthday, Cindy!

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So sorry we missed your birthday Cindy!!!


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Wow! The telephone man just installed DSL for me ! No more dial up, no more telephone being tied up. No more waiting forever for pictures to open, or long threads ! Yahoooo !


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Pretty cards!! The card your Dad sent you is a riot, Sue..lol. I am going to have to save that for someone. We like Blue Mountain cards too.

Hello to Monique...it has been awhile, how have you been and what is new? Since you downloaded photos...maybe you will post more? :-)

Congratulations Marian...you will love DSL. It is like night and day from dial up. :-)

Rained off and on most of the day, but I don't think it amounted to much.

Cindy, how did we miss your BD? Dentists and vertigo during BD week is not allowed...have to remember that for next year. :-)

An Iris for you too...Happy Birthday!

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Cindy...hope your birthday was great!
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Happy Belated Birthday, Cindy.

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Drive by post... This story was just on NBC news:

"When Idylling is no longer an option!"

This got my attention so I tuned in after the numerous commercials. It was a piece on police not being able to sit in their idylling cars due to the price of gas... LOL

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Happy Birthday Cindy !

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Happy Birthday Sue !!

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Happy Belated Birthday Cindy--I'm so sorry I missed your special day.

Happy Birthday Sue!!!

(Also, just wanted to let everyone know---those cold germs that you were all passing around a week or so ago? They made it to the west coast.....) ;^)

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Kathy, that sound clip provided doesn't sound like the tsk, tsk of my hummer, but what a nice article. Now I've been wondering how quickly flowers replenish the nectar between sips and how that whole business works. Bet Deanne knows ;) Your potted succulent looks like another Cotyledon orbiculata aka pig's ear, no?

I think the thumb's up/down discussion on the hysto has been very enlightening, and thanks to all contributors. I haven't felt this radicalized over medical issues since I was pregnant, lol. Talk about being condescended to! And duly noted 'bug's comment re infant mortality rates in this country, oy, a true shame.

The epimedium photos are driving me over the edge, and I find (upon doing Internet research that mostly leads back to idyll threads) that they might not all require winter chill, that some are zoned to 9. Perhaps the evergreen kinds like X versicolor might be happy here in the spot recently vacated by a thuggish acanthus? They are awful pricy to experiment with, but they're really getting under my skin, what charmers.

Saucy, your fish chairs bring me back to the Charlie the Tuna commercials, lounging in something similar to show his good taste. Now I'm really dating myself...

A Chelone sighting! Talk to us, GF! you with the great facility with words.

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Denise, though I collect succulents madly Im afraid I cant verify your I.D. on this one . I bought it from our local nursery who grows their own plants but in true Mom&Pop store fashion are hit or miss with labeling. I bought it in a gallon pot and the container it lives in now is probably a couple of inches bigger in diameter than a basketball. I was thinking maybe it might be some sort of Kalanchoe , but I will research your suggestion . And by the way , "lame photographer" or no, I have really been enjoying your photos. As an LA girl there is something very homelike in them for me.

LOL Jerri ! Idylling is always an option for some ! How are the pups ?

Monique , that purple arbor/gate affair is just as fabu-fabu as can beLove to see people who exhibit b**ls in the color arena, and you are surely there !

PM, I am usually pretty good at leaving the crappy attitude at the office..I work in an industry that is very much affected by the housing downturn and it has resulted in lots of lay offs and belt tightening in our company. Though I am the boss and a professional, losses of clerical folk have left me and my staff in the postion of spending lots of time doing mindless data entry activities that we would otherwise farm out. This can be pretty frustrating, and prevents us from doing our real jobs .
Very slow right now in real estate land, but Im in no rush.

Chelone, methinks by fall you will have the Salon sewn up and ready for what? Maybe the First Annual Compound Harvest Festival. Huzzah !

Ok , time to catch a few innings and then sleeplater all, wave to those ungreeted..

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"But ChaHlie, StaHkist don't want tunas with good taste, StaHkist wants tunas that taste good!".

And on that note of useless information (don't ask how or why I remember it), I'll bid you all a productive day.

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Morning all!

Today Nick gets his ultrasound "egg hunt"...guess they're looking for stones. He has not had a bad attack (a few mild ones) since we cut the fat in his diet.

PM, we have been researching alternative options since his dr. already mentioned surgery and we don't even have a confirmed diagnosis....GP's must get a little commission from the surgeons, no? Thank you for your insight.

I, too, enjoyed the volley about women's health. It doesn't get discussed often enough - that's why women don't know there is a choice/alternative. Good discussion had on both sides of the fence.

I found myself googling something and ended up on an Idyllunion thread at V.'s house! I have been dreaming up "steps" that are low and flat like hers, with thymes planted around stepping stones....it will lead up to my bee hive.

Thanks to you all, I ordered 80 bluestone plants to start "something" around the deck. I got in on their big sale. I've got time to watch it grow :)

I have an Oriole eating from an orange on my feeder. I am so proud of this fact! He's been flying overhead, and I think he/she are nesting in the big oak tree, but so far no sign of the unusual nest. I have a terrible picture to upload!

Denise, you're just comparing your photography skills to your son's, but he obviously got it from somewhere! I love your garden shots! It's what I'd be if I lived in your clime.

I loved Charlie Tuna and his underwater world! I did a google search, Woody, and found that you could buy chairs similar to those (google: "fish adirondack") but those seem to be a one of a kind. I really did enjoy that garden....but my pictures came out lousy.

I guess I'd better get the day started. I'm supposed to go to the wholesale nursery with my neighbor, so I'm crossing my fingers that it works out so that I can go with her, go with Nick, and find time to get the bills out to the mailbox before the postman arrives, LOL...that's alot to cram into my morning.

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I remember that commercial! Leave it to you Chelone, with your wonderful memory. Mine is like a sieve. Now I am getting a visual too. [g]

How is your garden doing, Chelone? Wondering how much rain fell on the Compound yesterday. Still gray here this morning but no rain. We just about had an inch of rain yesterday.

You certainly are up and out early in the morning. So your busy season at work is all summer?

Kathy...I am surprised there are not more cutbacks than there have been reported. With the price of gas going through the roof and taking everything else with it, it makes you wonder where it is all going to end. I saw a news report last night about a gas station owner who explains he may have to go out of business because he is not making any money selling gas.

Here on the East Coast, I have no idea what the real estate market is doing right now, but normally this is their busiest season. At least you have all those updates and new amenities to enjoy while you are waiting. :-)

Off to the train station soon...

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At least 20 years ago DH had a serious gallbladder attack, requiring the doctor to come to our HOME! (Doctors don't do that here...) He had eaten Chicken Vindaloo at an Indian restaurant the night before. Nothing much could be done. So the doctor checked him later on, after DH had done some research. Turns out almost everyone has gallstones but only a few are bothered by them. Surgery was ALWAYS the solution according to the medics, but not always necessary. In fact, the surgery alone is sometimes more dangerous than the stones. So DH has had nothing done for over 20 years and has had no real issues with it since. While in the hospital for having his appendix removed, the woman in the next room died of heart failure after her "successful" gallbladder surgery. I think this could be related to DH's avoidance of the procedure! In any case, the surgery is now done differently, not invasively.

Visiting girlfriend is off for a run and then we leave for the Farmer's market. She has extended her stay here until Saturday! Oy, the gardens need mucho weeding and I won't be touching them until then. We are expecting a heatwave, almost 90F and HUMID!

Ciao!
'bug


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LOL, just got a chicken pox alert from the school!

GB, that visiting girlfriend any kind of gardener? Have her bum side up in the garden to earn her keep :)

Wonder where PM is scooting off to by train?

How do I expect to get any work done if I play here?

Saucy


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Cindy - I hope you had a good birthday. I was out most of yesterday so your card is extra late...

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Whoa - good morning - someone is reading posts too closely! Eden -- that was sweet of you - I should have edited my post and taken out that "recent" - that's what happens when it's a drive-by - it was weeks ago and Im such a bad idyller I dont keep track of birthdays, so I really didnt think anything of it being missed here -- altho I always enjoy excuses for more gorgeous photos -- thanks, folks -- Beautiful felicitations are duly noted -- I hope it didnt take away from the fun of Sue's -- Im still laughing about that card from her Dad!

Well, another metro commuting nitemare - all those tornado warnings - my car was in dealer for service - get the call at 4 pm it's stuck on the alignment rack and they have no power.. they offer me a rental car when I say Im car-less and homeless without a rental; then the metro stops service half way to the destination stop; I end up off-loaded on the train Im on because it has problems - longer story short, I end up in Arlington walking to DD's apartment - miles from where I need to be & the traffic at a standstill - they offer me shelter, dinner and a ride to the dealer to get the car -- got home after 9.... and crossing the fingers they get power back to get my car off the rack today altho if the candles in their ofc were any indication last nite, Im not feeling optimistic. Life's little dramas. There are sure to be more significant ones from the huge weather systems we had here.

Kathy, that is tough w/ the layoffs - even the law firms are doing it now and for the past several years, they've been loading up the admin staff and consolidating; but now the attys are being laid off too -- definite belt tightening going on "quietly" in a lot of areas I think -- we luckier folks just need to sit tight and practice a mantra of "can only do so much" for one person --

It's going to be a "loverly" sweltering humid DC day the start of the heat wave onslaught ...ugh...

It's nice to see pics of last summer's IU4 -- it brings back wonderful memories -- I too adored that garden where the fish chairs were and recall the owners were delightful, creative, amazingly social and kind people...

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Good morning all,

So Cindy, when exactly is your birthday??? Hmmmm???? Please email me the information and Ill add you to the list. Im doing my best but Cynthia is the queen of the birthday list. We NEVER missed a BDay when she was in charge. LOL

So look whos in the Charley the Tuna chair. That is our very own lovely Mary modeling the latest in garden furniture at the last IU.

I surely wish youd all been able to see these gardens we visited last year. They were over the top Fabu-Fabu. I agree 100% with Cindy, the couple who created those gardens were the most marvelous, creative and gracious hosts. A perfect evening in the garden. We set up a wine and cheese buffet on their patio under a magnificent arbor and had a lovely time.

Cindy, good grief, youve surely had enough dramas in your life for the foreseeable future! I surely hope things settle down soon. You know, you should think about popping up for a weekend sometime? Ill pamper you and we can chill out on the patio looking up at the terrace gardens. If you can get to MHT I can pick you up.

Bug, what a horror story about your DHs gallbladder issue. The old surgery was terrible with a very long recovery. My DD had to have her gallbladder out and they did it by laparoscopy. She was just uncomfortable for a few days. So different from the months of recovery the old surgery required. I have attacks from time to time when Im not paying close enough attention to my fat intake. I try to keep it under 30 grams a day and that isnt easy. Ive been told Ill have to have surgery but so far Ive been putting it off as I rarely have problems. OH yes, red wine seems to lessen the effects of an attack. LOL

Saucy, how terrific youve got an oriole on your feeder! I have them in my oak trees here as well. They are such fabulous birds. ~~ Hope your DH is OK.

LOL Jerri! I agree with Kathy, Im always ready for a bit of Idylling.

Kathy, that purple arbor of Monique and Les is definitely Fabu-Fabu!!!! You should come and see it in person sometime. It leads to their brilliant gardens. One of the best uses of space Ive ever seen. They are incredible designers.

Denise, thats a good question and Im now intrigued. I have no idea how fast the plants replenish the nectar after the Hummers take their sips. Ill have to see if I cant find that information. ~~ BTW is that a yucca blooming behind the salvia?

HI T, sorry abut the cold. Your Rhododendron and Azaleas look incredible.

PM is that iris Beverly Sills??? Its one of the pretties pink flowers ever.

Michelle, those peach tulips are wonderful next to that Alchemilla mollis! Do you know the variety? Also, what is that variegated Aquilegia?

Sue, that BDay card from your Dad is hysterical! Hope you had a great evening out.

OK Ive got to get to work here. Hello to all, have a great day!
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Ho Tai doin' a mini-wave in honor of Cindy and Sue's birthdays!!

Yet another quickie post. Had some pretty strong storms roll through last night. No damage, but we had the dogs in the basement. The biggest, Gus, had to be CARRIED down the steps and whined the entire time. Sounds like heat, humidity and more rain are in store for us. More time to do yoga and mend the back, I guess.
ANYWAY, I came to post that DH and I were at the home improvement store the other night, and I picked up a container gardening magazine, and there was Deanne!! Congrats to you-your containers are always awe-inspiring..seems to me they wasted a lot of pages that could have been filled with more of your creations, though ;) I 'bout fell over when I showed it to DH, and he actually remembered who you were. I thought he was just humoring me until he mentioned that I showed him pics of your containers last year. He thought you lived in Rhode Island, but hey, at least he had a clue!!
Gotta run, have a good day everyone!
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Quickie post from me, I'll see how good my memory is.

Mary, what an honor for David - congratulations to him.

Brenda, good to have you back. We are in a rainy week and the crops are just in so that's a good thing.

Deanne, the tulips are Apricot Beauty and the aquilgia is Woodside strain. It reseeds in my garden with some of the plants with all chartruese leaves. I could surely send you some seed. As for the Black scallop, I didn't do anything special except all the pieces were in a raised bed (good drainage?) I so enjoy your driveway garden, its such a great way to down play the driveway.

Saucy, we enjoy the orioles here, I haven't tried feeding them, but I see them flit about and hear their song.

Cindy, what a nuisance, but it did give me a little chuckle to think of your car "stranded". It shows how dependant on electricity we are.

I agree that Monique's use of color is fabulous. Kathy, just wait until you see the colors that Kenzie and I picked out for the playhouse ;o) If the rain ever stops I can move on with that.

Marian, you will love the DSL. I was wondering if we have any dialup users left.

Woody, your wisteria tree is wonderful. How many years did you wait for it to bloom?

I'm loving all the birthday pictures.

Back to the grind
Michelle


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I happened across this link at lunch today -- I feel after reading a few of these things that I should say "where have I been the last few years" -- it is a website citing some scientific studies to prove or disprove various garden myths -- some being what the "soil sorb" polymers commonly used in container plantings do, whether gypsum is helpful to breaking up clay soils (certainly one I've heard time and again in my very clay area of the U.S.), and some others, as what to use to disinfect (or should one disinfect) pruners...

I thought these are all very thought-provoking -- there is an article in today's local Washington Post that talks about the over use and commercialization of any type of mulch -- you'll see there's a link to that topic re mulch as well as this Garden myth site. Some of you may be very familiar with this info, but boy, I admit, I've been sleeping somewhere and missed a bunch of them!

-- Cindy

Here is a link that might be useful: Garden myths


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And there is this one too!

Here is a link that might be useful: Garden Enemies


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Paid the bill at the lumber yard.
Called the vet. about Wrecks, waiting for return call from vet..
Called boiler man to report a leak in the water heater.
Called well-heeled customer about recovering the cushions for a large patio set.

I remember stupid things, minutiae... everyone else seems to have the important stuff covered, so I'm OK with bein' in charge of trivia.

Spring and summer comprise the "money season" for me. I put my hindquarters to the grindstone and take advantage of every opportunity, even though it might be more fun to "screw off". I am one of those people whose circadian rhythm is connected to sunrise and the earliest available light. I am most productive first thing in the morning and I've always been that way (I'm never grouchy in the morning, either). The worst job I ever had was working second shift in a factory that manufactured injection moulded shoe soles for sneakers... I vastly preferred pressing pants for dry cleaner, the 5 AM start time suited me perfectly. I wake up at 4-4:30 every day of the week, no alarm clock required, and I'm "ready to roll". I like to wind down and retire to the boudoir about 7:30 where I read, maybe watch TV, and generally buzz off to dreamland by 8:30. I am frequently fast asleep when people call me, lol. But if you called me at 4:30-5 AM, I'd be cheerful and wide awake. Funny how we have such marked preferences for routines, huh?

Pleasure boating seems greatly slower this year than last. It hasn't been very warm, but the local marinas have many big powerboats on jackstands and several owners have decided that's the best place to leave them for the time bein'. Repair work seems to be the name of the game at present; both in shop and with respect to clothing work. I've mentioned this before, but the fact that people are once more requesting new zippers in blue jeans and jackets tells me instantly that times are getting tougher.

We now shut the boiler off during the day. We are paying more attention to consolidating errands, doing them on our way home from work. We've worked hard to minimize food waste, too. Lights are turned off and all "vampires" are plugged into strips and those are turned OFF when we aren't using them. I have been teased rather relentlessly over the years for my "survivalist tendancies", but indulging them allows me to indulge other delights without too much angst. ;) On a recent news broadcast I noted with interest the yound man who wanted to trade his Ford Explorer in for something more fuel efficient. He was stunned to learn they would only allow him about $3K on it, even though he still owed $8500 on it. The dealers can't move them because they cost so much to operate. Being "upside down" on a car is a bad sign. When I heard him say, "I never saw this coming" I was shocked. I was 14 in 1973 and I "got it", the lesson was clear. The resource is FINITE and using it wantonly is a recipe for disaster. And that simple fact underscores the painful "reality check" in store for too many of us. I am already concerned about the coming winter. We'll definitely feel the pinch, but we have some options, those on fixed incomes don't. Fat, dumb, and happy is a risky way to live life.

Marian is to get DSL?! I think that's great, what a difference it will make for you, my friend. My brother uses it and he says it's pretty good (he was spoiled by digital) and we may consider it for our needs, too. I am not very thrilled with Time Warner (the only game in town), whatever happened to "competition"?.

(Wrecks is to take 3-4 aspirin/day for the weekend. We're to really restrict his activity for that time, too. If there is no discernable improvement we are to call on Monday and come in for an exam.)

Jerri, how are the puppies? (not that I really care, mind you, just bein' polite).


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Chelone, one of them growls amd barks a lot. I think it's a message for you. LOL
Tornado watches and warnings are popping up to the west. Not unusual for here but this sounds worse. How do I fit double digit animals and me in the hall bathroom?

Hang onto your hats ladies, the wind is whippin' here.

Jerri


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A quick photo for Cynthia. Remember this?

It grows between this

And this

And yesterday I thought the hunters had shot me when this happened overhead next to the bridge!


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Hello...

No trip on the train for me this morning, Saucy, just taking my DD to the train station . Morning commute. I wish I were off on an exotic trip somewhere! I love train travel.

Deanne....yes, that is 'Beverly Sills' and I am happy with the pretty soft pink and the shape of the bloom. Glad you like it. :-) It hasn't stood up to even a gentle rain though, which was disappointing.

Cindy...I agree with Deanne...you have had enough dramas to last for awhile. Brother!
Hope you will catch a slow period on that front soon. :-)

Chelone....isn't it a shame that your busy season is during the best gardening season too. I am definitely a morning person too and when I open my eyes, I am instantly awake. Most productive, most cheerful during the morning too. I think that is because that is when I have the most energy. [g]

Hope the extra rest and aspirin will bring some improvement for poor Wrecks.

Jerri...Speaking of puppies, did you ever get some photos of the puppies?

Gardenbug...is that another Camassia? What is in your third photo...really different looking. Gosh, that must have been scary having the tree split like that. Hope you were not under it. What kind of tree is it and did something trigger it?


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Marie, is the first pic an Asphodelus ?
I am not sure about the 3rd either(Pm2).
We see a tree similar to that on our way to town, but lightning struck it. How close were you to that one when it broke?


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Marian wins the prize! Asphodeline damascena. (Usually biennial, but reseeds lightly)
As for the third photo, I can't come up with the name now. Perhaps at 3am I'll think of it! I do know it goes dormant soon after it blooms.
As for the huge branch, it is on our willow by the bridge. I was very close, perhaps 3-4 yards away. It is positioned so that it would not have fallen on me in any case, but still scary! DH has been sawing pieces of it off all day...but only has a hand saw. There is another smaller branch dangling higher up. Willows are always a problem this way...This one is so wet that the weight must have caused the split.


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