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Rudbeckia, Early Bird Gold
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Thu, Jan 1, 09 at 12:26
| Just wondering if anyone has tried this plant and if so what are tour thoughts on it's performance? Does it really have the long bloom period that it's said to have? |
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RE: Rudbeckia, Early Bird Gold
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| This is a new form that is supposedly "day-neutral" in regards to its bloom-initiation requirements. So in theory it should begin to bloom in late spring or early summer. Whether this lengthens the actual bloom-time however, remains to be seen. Certainly the claims are impressive. It was discovered in a field of of 'Goldsturm' by Dupont Nursery Louisiana. I have yet to try it myself. |
RE: Rudbeckia, Early Bird Gold
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| Not to hijack this thread, but coolplantsguy, tell us more about this. I understand what day neutral means, but it's news to me that rudbeckias (all? some?) are not day neutral. Please elaborate. |
RE: Rudbeckia, Early Bird Gold
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| Hijack away! In searching online, I noticed that at least one nursery(can't remember which one) had it listed in it's 2008 catalog so I thought maybe someone had grown it last year and could either verify or debunk the hype. Inquiring minds want to know. I tried Henry Eilers(subtomentosa) last year and for a first year plant, loved it. |
RE: Rudbeckia, Early Bird Gold
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| No problem. Rudbeckia fulgida 'Goldsturm' is what they call a "long day required/obligate" plant to initiate flowering. So it only begins to produce blooms after some time after reaching a critical day-length/night-length. Hence the summer flowering of this plant. You can Google "photoperiodism" for more information. So, if a nursery has found a form that has genetically "lost" (via mutation or hybrid) this requirement, and the plant has become "day neutral", it will flower much earlier and possibly longer. As for other Rudbeckia forms (R. hirta, R. triloba, and even other forms of R. fulgida), I'm not sure as to their photoperiodic classification. Hope this helps. |
RE: Rudbeckia, Early Bird Gold
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| The wholesale grower I work for offered this plant last season and I grow it (too good an employee discount - I fell for all sorts of new plants that I wouldn't ordinarily have forked out big bucks for :-)). It is a relatively new introduction, so can't comment on its long term performance but it did indeed start blooming in early June here......about 6 weeks before Goldsturm starts showing color....and kept on until early fall. Otherwise, it is difficult to tell the two plants apart. I did find that it didn't fall prey to rudbeckia leaf blight quite so readily as well. |
RE: Rudbeckia, Early Bird Gold
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| I just love Gardenweb! Thanks to you all for the utterly fascinating info. Early Bird sounds like a good one to try, although part of Goldsturm's attraction is it starts to bloom at a time when so many other plants are winding down. I'll be on the lookout. (Oh, gardengal, I would be in SOOO much trouble if I could claim a discount! :) |
RE: Rudbeckia, Early Bird Gold
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| Thanks gardengal for sharing that info. That's exactly the type of info I was looking for. I think I may give it a try and see how it does for me in zone 4. I worked at a nursery as a seasonal employee one year. My hubby said it was the most expensive job I'd ever had. |
RE: Rudbeckia, Early Bird Gold
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| Mine has been performing fantastically all season. Planted mine in early May in Northern VA. Started Blooming in June. NEVER had to cut back, no mildew on the foliage. Just fantastic. My only regret is that I did not buy more when I had the chance. Definately a keeper |
RE: Rudbeckia, Early Bird Gold
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| I have enough blooming time out of my Rudbeckia Goldsturm, R. fulgida deamii, R.Viette's Little Suzy, R. Pot of Gold, R. laciniata, R. Herbstsonne, etc. The last thing I need in my garden is yet another rudbeckia. This new one might be good for landscapers, though. |
RE: Rudbeckia, Early Bird Gold
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| I planted several 'Early Bird Gold' Rudbeckias last fall. It's touted as being an earlier and longer blooming version of 'Goldstrum.' Some of my 'Goldstrums' are already blooming, but the 'Early Bird Golds' are just in bud. Maybe I'll see a difference next year when the 'Early Bird Golds' are more established. |
RE: Rudbeckia, Early Bird Gold
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| Planted it this spring and its been flowering since early June. |
RE: Rudbeckia, Early Bird Gold
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| I have this plant in hot afternoon sun. For some time now, I have been noticing deformed smaller flowers mixed in with regular ones. Should I avoid moving this to a more prominent location? Have others noticed the same problem? |
RE: Rudbeckia, Early Bird Gold
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| I haven't seen deformed buds or flowers but the blooms seem smaller than Goldsturm and this year it came into bloom only about a week before Goldsturm. I'll give it another year before I decided if it stays or goes as I did start with a small plant. Anyone else have an update? |
RE: Rudbeckia, Early Bird Gold
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| Hmm, not sure about this one. It seemed to flower about the same time as Goldsturm and end a little earlier even. Any more feedback on how this performed for others? |
RE: Rudbeckia, Early Bird Gold
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| Off topic but I see one mention of "Triloba". I am impressed with this particular Rudbeckia. I know it is quite large but its flowers are really cool and it seems to be always disease and pest free. |
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