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garlic chives - the invasive kind

Posted by dahlia6 6 (My Page) on
Sun, Mar 18, 12 at 17:58

I do not see a forum for invasive plants so I will post here. Help! I bought a packet of invasive garlic chives years and years ago. I did not know they were invasive but I do now. Roundup doesn't kill them. Nothing I have tried has killed them and they spread all over the place.
Does anyone have experience with this problem?


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RE: garlic chives - the invasive kind

Yep. . .loads of experience - I'm one of those looney tunes who deliberately
keep growing Allium tuberosum because I love having the garlic chives
available all season to add to soups, salads, omelets, you name it. . .AND,
the very late blooming flowers are wondrous!

And here's what I've learned about controlling them: if you don't want them
to spread wantonly, you MUST deadhead the flowers before the seeds set. . .
this can be a little tricky, since the flowers don't all necessarily fade at
exactly the same time. Vigilance is everything. . .

If, on occasion, some babies suddenly appear unwanted, I do NOT waste time
with chemicals - grab that long pronged tool designed for lifting dandelions
and lift the little bulbets. . .if it's a larger clump, I'll use a spade. . .but you
need to be sure you get EVERY last little bulb!

To discourage seeding further, I tend to site my allium tuberosum along
paved walkways, or the driveway, where there is less fertile ground for
seeds to fall on. Yes, all of this is a little extra work, but I cannot imagine
my garden without them.

By the way, to attest to my looniness, I also deliberately grow Aegopodium !

Good Luck. . .

Carl


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RE: garlic chives - the invasive kind

I have them also, planted them years ago when I had an herb garden. Mistakenly let them go to seed and that was an error of monstrous proportions. I dig them out diligently every year but I still have them all over the place. I say, as I will do, just keep digging them out when you see them. Maybe someday they will all be gone.

Sandy


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What mosswitch and carl said. I love having them for flavoring but I am diligent about deadheading them. If I see one popping up away from the clump I maintain I dig it out. I am to the point now where I only have to dig a few volunteers each year.


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RE: garlic chives - the invasive kind

round up will kill them ...

but multiple applications are usually required to kill a bulb ...

and i would use 100%... [which is 41%] ... aka UNDILUTED ... painted on straight from the bottle ...

it should ALL BE ON THE LABEL OF THE KILLER ... if you happen to study such ...

if you bought bigboxstore pre-diluted RU.. it would not surprise me.. if it isnt strong enough to do the job ...

ken


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RE: garlic chives - the invasive kind

Unfortunately, Ken, the damn things will pop up in the middle of plants, the grassy leaves of little ones in everything, and the only way to kill them with Roundup (which is a terrible thing to spray anyway, glyphosate is am awful chemical) is to just kill everything and start over. The garlic chives like all alliums has a waxy coating on its leaves and you have to use a spreader sticker with it to make it stick to the plant, otherwise it just runs off. Dish soap is good for that.

Sandy
Sandy


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RE: garlic chives - the invasive kind

Like others I keep them in my perennial beds since they have some great characteristics... but was late a few years back on deadheading them and I am still fighting the starts off.

One tool that has helped removing them (and wild garlic onion too.. from the lawn or where ever) is to use a bulb planter tool. It's easy to just pull up the soil plug, get the whole plant/onion bulb out, and drop the plug back in the hole.

When I used a standard trowel, I was always more apt to break the bulb off somewhere in the ground... which just regrew later on. With the bulb planter tool.. even if you have a deep set onion bulb... when you lift the first plug from the ground, the whole plant remains in tack in the ground (the stem slides through the soil plug as you lift it out). You just use the tool again to lift another deeper plug out and get the onion bulb all together.


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and the only way to kill them with Roundup (which is a terrible thing to spray anyway, glyphosate is am awful chemical) is to just kill everything and start over.

===>>> nope.. try the very expensive applicator at the link.. and simply put one drop on one leaf.. 100% from the undiluted container [if spray drift is an issue.. then .. get this.. dont spray ... lol]

think dollar store .... brand name not important ...

and yes.. napalming an area is an option.. dig out the good stuff.. bare root them.. insuring there are no bulbs left.. and plant in a temp bed.. until you eradicate the area that is bad ... been there.. done that ...

its either going to be hard chems.. or hard work .. there is no simple/easy panacea ... [a remedy for all disease or ills; cure-all] .. whichever is your ultimate choice.. GOOD LUCK ...

ken

Here is a link that might be useful: link


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RE: garlic chives - the invasive kind

My parents had these all over their lawn. I think my dad planted them one year in a raised herb garden and let them go to seed. They were still growing EVERYWHERE when they moved last year.
I never realized they were edible. That's probably a good thing, or I might have transplanted some in my own lawn and ended up with the problem too.
But others are right. You just have to keep digging them up until you get them all. Make sure to watch out for the little tiny bulbs on the fringe of the clump.


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They are definitely edible. That's what happened to mine. They were eaten to death :(


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Ken, are you saying a drop of prepared Mustard on each leaf will kill this plant?

Mary


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This discussion is making me hungry.


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I was horrified at how much they had spread and pulled out most but left a few. But those few were so welcome at the end of August I was glad I had left them. They made the whole garden, they were so cool and sparkly. I am now looking forward to planting the soft pink alium Summer Beauty to make a similar effect as soon as it gets affordable.. Saw it at the Lurie Garden in Chicago -- it was splendid and hopefully it will be more manageable. Meantime I'll pull up as many Chinese chives as I can this spring but leave a few for August.


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In my experience ANY ornamental allium allowed to go to seed will take over the world.


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