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| I'm really leaning towards daylily in this area but they seem to get quite tired come late August.
Any other suggestions for a bushy upright that doesn't require much if any dividing? About 24-30" tall would be just right. I hoping that the foilage will all just blend together as one mass planting (I'll stagger them ever so slightly with the room I have). Its shaded until about 2pm and has decent moisture with a well drained soil. I moved the sedum and mum (didn't get enough sun). A Picea glauca 'Daisy White' is next to the weigela to repeat the evergreen cone near the doorway.
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- Posted by ken_adrian z5 (My Page) on Mon, Mar 19, 12 at 7:57
| geez will ... what happens after the 2 pm shade ends.. full blistering south facing sun.. with no air movement??? .. kinda left us hanging on facts ... otherwise.. 7 more mini conifer.. what a silly question.. lol ... ken ps: nice mushroom collection ... pps: that purple bush is going to be a battle.. in what looks like a very small space.. for a plant with a large potential ... think about when each of those branches is 5/8's ... of an inch thick ... and 4 feet tall .... and i dont even know what it is ... |
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- Posted by christinmk z5b eastern WA (My Page) on Mon, Mar 19, 12 at 11:21
| Lol, I almost didn't see the mushrooms until Ken mentioned them. I would probably plant Eupatorium (or whatever we are supposed to call em' now, lol!) dubium 'Little Joe' or 'Baby Joe' there. Did you want something blooming? If not, an ornamental grass of somekind would be nice and add some nice texture. Calamagrostis 'Overdam' has nice white variegation that would compliment your My Monet Weigela. Just a few ideas, I will likely have more later after posting this, lol! ;-) |
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| During the height of the growing season it gets sun from about 2-6:30pm. Come late Aug/early Sept its even less...hense the mushrooms. CMK, I was wondering about a ornaental grass but wasn't sure how they'd look without a border. Re the Joe Pye Weed, I was thinking upright like this but with more bushy/arching foilage. I also really like Veronica �Purpleicious� for this spot but the plant is a bit too short for this area. |
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| It doesn't seem like there's much room for width or between plants, so it would need to be narrow as well. Depending on what height you want and what season of bloom, one of the more shade-tolerant and size restrained clematis on a trellis might work. A tall Japanese or Siberian iris would be a good foliage contrast or even one of the variegated foliage irises. |
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- Posted by ken_adrian z5 (My Page) on Tue, Mar 20, 12 at 9:50
| what about a clematis on a fan shaped trellis.. to break the monotony of that brown/grey wall?? i think that wall is the root of the issue due to the thinness of the actual planting space ... and since there isnt much that will get tall w/o infringing on the walk.. you are left with going vertical w/o a footprint.. which means vines ... one way to do it.. w/o attaching something thru the siding.. is 3 foot wide bird netting.. and xmas light hooks on the gutter ... and rocks to hold it in place on the ground.. and get a clematis of the type that is cut down in fall.. and in October.. you clip the clematis near the ground .. unhook the netting .. and throw it all away for winter ... you could do annual vines also ... something like the 3 x 50 foot roll at the link .. should be able to find it at bigboxstore ... ken |
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- Posted by tsugajunkie z5 SE WI (My Page) on Tue, Mar 20, 12 at 17:21
| You have some good suggestions, I have another... Ok, not perennial, but to break up that wall without crowding the walk I'd be thinking canna lilies. tj P.S. Is that a ninebark on the corner? |
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| Ken, the folks in the design forum also suggested a clematis as well. I'm still considering that although a few folks thought it may look busy...its tough to say. The picture focusing on the boring blank slate of the wall but it is somewhat subdued when you viewing the total scape of that area. I several mini conifers surrounding a Ginkgo so there is alot going on in that area. Tj, the lillies are an interesting idea. I'd have to do a little investigating with that one. Yes, it is a Ninebark. Physocarpus opulifolius 'Mindia'. IMO not as aggressive as some of the other cultivars and superior spring colored foliage. I put this shrub here on purpose as I can cut down to stubs if I want to control its size. |
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- Posted by tsugajunkie z5 SE WI (My Page) on Tue, Mar 20, 12 at 22:49
| If less busy is what you want, then the big leaves of canna would fit. Orange flowering might go with that Ninebark or even the basic red. Your family would enjoy the hummingbirds they bring ;-) tj |
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| Can you show the whole area, please? It's a bit hard to work on a small bed like this in isolation, and the comment that the clematis might look "too busy" makes me wonder how this fits in. Clematis aren't formal plants - more the cottage garden kind of look, though I have them in mixed borders that include shrubs, conifers and other perennials. I also remembered that in my experience, most tall perennials will lean out towards the light as they grow, giving you a bunch of leaning plants impinging on your walkway . . . So, I really don't think that you want regular lilies, allium, Veronicastrum, etc, for this reason, though I don't know about callas. I am beginning to wonder if a line of 2 or 3 tall pots planted with annuals and then left empty over winter (or filled with seasonal greens) would give you the look you want. They could coordinate with pots by your entry. Or have you considered a bench situated here, perhaps coordinated with similar furniture nearby to pull this area into the larger plan? For either of these options you could underplant with one shorter plant that will give you a consistent texture. Liriope comes to mind, though wouldn't be hardy for you I'd guess. Maybe goutweed, ajuga, 'Georgia Blue' or 'Waterperry Blue' Veronica, or a short Carex. |
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- Posted by ken_adrian z5 (My Page) on Wed, Mar 21, 12 at 8:38
| Ken, the folks in the design forum also suggested a clematis as well. GREAT MINDS THINK ALIKE I'm still considering that although a few folks thought it may look busy...its tough to say. TOO BUSY.. AS COMPARED TO A BLANK MONOTONE WALL??? WHATS THAT ALL ABOUT. .. canna.. would be annual for you.. unless you dig then all up and store them in the basement ... or a heated garage ... one easy cheap experiment.. would be bird netting and morning glory .... see how it all works with an easy annual vine ... or one of those sweet potato vines ... for a brilliant lime green ... ken |
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| Thanks for the ideas so far. Nhbabs, your comments are also in line with some of the folks on the design forum. Not sure if you happened to see that one or not. Here a couple other views. I was going to get some updates but its dark out there now!
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- Posted by steve_mass 5b (My Page) on Sat, Mar 24, 12 at 8:06
| Very nicely done. The round bed in the front is the focal point. The Ninebark is a secondary point. I would grow a clem on a trellis on that wall, but grow two of them together. Plant a white like Huldine and a red/maroon like Warsaw Nike to play off the color of the Ninebark. Steve |
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- Posted by ken_adrian z5 (My Page) on Sat, Mar 24, 12 at 8:55
| that darn dog always ends up in the picture.. whats it like.. to be a god.. to a canine.. lol ... espalier??? or did someone already suggest that?? wonder if you could do such with strobus pendula??? or larix diana??? or decidua/kaempheri pendula??? ken |
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