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Wed, Apr 11, 12 at 14:06
| My daughter and I were at the nursery last weekend and she really wanted to pick up Echinacea Sunrise. I told her I had heard negative comments about the Echinacea in the Big Sky series, so perhaps she should wait and I would post a note on the forum to see if Sunrise was an exception. Are there other pale yellow Echinacea that she could consider instead of Sunrise? I've seen Echinacea that are a more gold color, but she really likes the pale yellow. Thanks. |
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RE: Pale Yellow Echinacea
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| Just like your daughter, I saw E. Sunrise and loved it on the spot. I bought it and figured it would produce lovely flowers the year after I planted it. It didn't. Next I traded for seeds hoping if I grew it from seed it would be more hardy than a nursery-grown specimen. I grew lots of different Echinacea types from seed but only Harvest Moon actually grew and bloomed true from seed, at least in year one. Year before last I bought a newer, shorter one called Banana Cream and am hoping it blooms this year. It had been dead-headed when I bought it late in the season but I've seen pictures that suggest it has pale yellow blooms similar in color to Sunrise. The only other perennial I know of with those pale yellow blooms is Coreopsis 'Moonbeam' and even though it's hardy in my zone it didn't come back the year after I planted it. |
RE: Pale Yellow Echinacea
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| I loved the pale yellow 'Sunrise' Echinacea from the first minute I saw it. It grew okay the first couple years, except it gets deformed petals and when the flowers age the colors fade somewhat. Also it declined in vigor over the years. Instead of the clumps enlarging as Echinacea usually does, they seemed to get smaller. Last year the voles finished off what was left of it. I've also got Summer Sky, same story with that one, but the fading is really unsightly on that one. |
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| I live in Denmark , theoretically zone 7. Each single plant from each variety from this series proved to be pure rubbish with me. Some of them survived the first winter just to die next summer. I have made photos of many very distorted flowers and sent them to the seller with a question why my flowers looked like they came straight from Chernobyl. I was offered replacements. I asked if she could give guarantee for flowers like the ones on her perfect pictures. She answered that her supplier from Holland declared it could not be guaranteed, and if my plants look like that it is just my bad luck. Then I demanded my money back threatening her with a lawsuit. I could see no point in repeating the same again. Then she quickly changed the pictures on her site, so some of the flowers look more realistic, (but arranged in such a manner, that it is not too conspicuous). |
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| That is kind of what I expected to hear, but very sad because it really is a pretty flower, like many of the others in the Big Sky series. Thanks for the feedback. |
RE: Pale Yellow Echinacea
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| It's terrible. Avoid it like the plague! |
RE: Pale Yellow Echinacea
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| "Sunrise" was a total dud for me. I paid $15, babied it, and it died after the first year. I do have a very lovely 3 year old coral Big Sky echinacea, though, but I think I'm the exception. I've never met anyone else who was happy with their BS echinaceas. It's not technically an echinacea, but Ratibida pinnata (grey headed coneflower) is kinda similar, and not as dark yellow as a black-eyed-susan. Pretty much indestructible, too. |
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| I would never pay $15 for one of the BS echs these days.. But if you can get one for a few bucks, I say give it a try if it has blooms on it that you can see before you buy. Below is my sunrise that I have had for many years. It has aways bloomed decently. It does periodically get a few quilled petals, but not many. You can see it isn't exactly like the fancy tag images, but it's worth keeping for me. The nice soft yellow will bleach out in the high summer sun to an off-white color as noted before. As for many of the BS echs, it seems like it is the luck of the draw in regards to getting a deformed poor preforming plant or not. Depending on which nursery I used to see these sold at, some would be garbage and others are fine. 
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RE: Pale Yellow Echinacea
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| why would you bother? I mean, its not like there is any shortage of yellow daisy shaped plants is there? All of the yellows, regardless of whether they are bred from E,pallida or E.paradoxa or utter rubbish. Maybe as puny annuals? And if you want orange, they stick with heleniums or even annual tithonias or summat. |
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| Not an echinacea, but since the Sunrise sounds like a dud, how about a daisy? I used to have leucanthemum Sonnenschein, which is a nice pale yellow, and I really loved it. Dee |
Here is a link that might be useful: sonnenschein daisy
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| Thank you for the suggestions. We picked up Shasta Daisy Banana Cream. Can't want to see the first blooms. |
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| I have discontinued growing Leucanthemum Sonnenschein, which is floppy(stems too thin), and replaced it with Broadway Lights. It is a much better plant(more vigorous)and the flowers are are a little bigger(thicker petals) |
RE: Pale Yellow Echinacea
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| Wieslaw, thanks for the recommendation. I lost my Sonnenschein due to neglect (left in a corner of my pot ghetto and kind of forgot about it) and was thinking of buying another. Perhaps I'll go with the Broadway Lights instead. The blooms just don't seem as (visually) delicate as the Sonnenschein, but I'm all for having a more vigorous plant. Dee |
RE: Pale Yellow Echinacea
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| junco wrote: We picked up Shasta Daisy Banana Cream. Can't wait to see the first blooms. I too was excited about having this plant in my garden but it is for sure over rated in terms of duration of flowering and the blooms gets so 'ratty' when they finish. See here for more discussion of this plant. |
Here is a link that might be useful: BC is nothing special
RE: Pale Yellow Echinacea
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| Yellow Gaillardia from seeds cannot be beat. If you want yellow they are the way to go. I'm. |
Yellow Gaillardia
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| Although I only bought it last year, I like G. Mesa Yellow very much. So far it hasn't sent up any new growth this year which I'm hoping doesn't mean it got pounded to death in the October snow storm. I harvested seeds from it and winter sowed them so at least I can replace it if it turns out to be a goner. |
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